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    Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    So they said that men are paid more than women for a single hour of work while working in the same position being it called "gender pay gap" but they also said that the lack of economically adjusted men makes impossible for women to find a suitable husband.

    I've never been that good in math at school but it seems to me that something doesnt match, any idea?

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Feminism "says stuff" to provide word salad for whatever program, perk or privilege they are pitching for women at a given moment. Your example is an excellent one.

    Wage gap! Men make too much money! Poor women!
    Men are not doing as well as women! Husband gap! Poor women!

    Whether men make more (for the "same job" lolololol) or they're jobless due to dwindling job prospects due to globalization, it's always POOR POOR WOMEN!!

    That's why feminists can usually only talk about one issue at a time, because the hypocrisy and contradictions would bring their worldview down like a cardhouse.
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    A man makes too much money for a woman unless she's married to him, or plans to marry him, and then he's not making enough. Of course that's just one item in his long list of insufficiencies.

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    As Insidious Sid said, "Feminism says stuff". Honestly, the feminists are really just giant children who will say whatever benefits them at the time.
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Men are too poor when women are looking for wealthy men to date or marry, but rich whenever they are arguing for higher wages and gender quotas for women since they can't earn those high-paying jobs based on their merit alone.

    Another fact that is often ignored is that women control 83% of consumer spending, cost tax-payers $150k over the course of their lives (while men contribute as much as they consume) and welfare/alimony/child support which go almost exclusively to women are never calculated in their "wages" or any other economic data.

    The fact is, men are EARNING most of the money, but women are SPENDING most of it. There's a word for that, right? When one person is forced to work, while another person keeps whatever that person produces or earns? Oh yeah, it's SLAVERY. That's what men are to women and society; SLAVES.

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    I'm not the one walking around life with an infected axe wound between my legs that never heals and bleeds once a month making me unbearably cranky and miserable!

    Speaking of riches? HOW MUCH IS THAT^^^ WORTH?

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    "word salad" I like that one - fits perfectly
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post

    The fact is, men are EARNING most of the money, but women are SPENDING most of it. There's a word for that, right? When one person is forced to work, while another person keeps whatever that person produces or earns? Oh yeah, it's SLAVERY. That's what men are to women and society; SLAVES.
    I'm starting to think of going to work in general as slavery. We are being taxed from all angles it seems. Inflation is rampant and it's nothing more than a tax on savings. I'm starting to think that maybe it's no longer becoming worth even working for money anymore.

    I'm just pondering these thoughts through my keyboard.
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Being tied to a nice home in the suburbs... a nice place to raise kids... that alone is being tethered to the gynospehere and all of it's trappings and pitfalls. The way society is going (which is, "gone") means for many men complete social disengagement may become necessary. Hell, I know one guy who owes so much child support he doesn't work any job that doesn't pay cash on the barrel-head. Now, for this guy, being anti-social and morally flexible allows him to navigate off the grid with relative ease. For those of us who want to do this within the confines of social law (which is most of us I imagine) we have a bit of a quandary. But yes, I too ponder the physical realities and logistics of living completely off the grid.

    Whatever mountain cabin I end up in, it's got to have high speed Interwebs though!!
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    Being tied to a nice home in the suburbs... a nice place to raise kids... that alone is being tethered to the gynospehere and all of it's trappings and pitfalls. The way society is going (which is, "gone") means for many men complete social disengagement may become necessary. Hell, I know one guy who owes so much child support he doesn't work any job that doesn't pay cash on the barrel-head. Now, for this guy, being anti-social and morally flexible allows him to navigate off the grid with relative ease. For those of us who want to do this within the confines of social law (which is most of us I imagine) we have a bit of a quandary. But yes, I too ponder the physical realities and logistics of living completely off the grid.

    Whatever mountain cabin I end up in, it's got to have high speed Interwebs though!!
    For those that have seen the movie Shooter, the main character has the perfect life in a mountain cabin. He gets suckered in to a romantic relationship and leaves paradise. The entertainment industry is after us

    I like what you said about suburb plantations. My plantation had 4 families, our kids were all about the same age. We spent lots of times together. At least 3 (including me) were divorced graped. I just googled the 4th, because they moved several years ago but no info. I bring this up for reason for lurkers. The guy that got divorcegraped first and the worse, was the one that kept giving in to all her demands.
    He even turned in his F 350 needed for work and drove a POS so she could have a high end SUV to drive 10 minutes a day to her friends house.
    By the time she filed, he had nothing to fall back on but his profession and now he is in Wyoming making great money now

    (Smile)

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    I'm starting to think of going to work in general as slavery. We are being taxed from all angles it seems. Inflation is rampant and it's nothing more than a tax on savings. I'm starting to think that maybe it's no longer becoming worth even working for money anymore.

    I'm just pondering these thoughts through my keyboard.
    This is why finding flexible work or being self employed is so appealing. You can control your income and how you want to pay yourself first and also how much you want to reinvest in your own business.

    Traditional saving mechanism are no longer working because of low interests rates. Low interest rates or negative interest rates are designed to push people to spend even more money and to discourage saving/investing. And as it has been said already the majority of consumer spending is led by women.

    Being debt free and having diversified investments is probably the best course forward for early financial independence for any man.. I think cash is king for emergency expenses but inflation and low savings interest rates makes it feel like your time is being robbed.

    I do wonder about the male NEETs but even they are actually contributing more to the overall economy by not consuming a lot of welfare but focusing more on gaming, hobbies, and with their friends.

    Think of this a male NEET is still a better bargain for the entire economic system than a woman that makes six figures due to woman studies degree and had to take out student loans while being subsidized with food, money and lodging. While the male NEET is dependent on family or friends they still have a chance of actually being a net positive to the system at some point in their life. And yet society shames the male NEET while cheering on these women that are paying to have the chance of debt slavery for a degree that has no use outside of academia.

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    I'm starting to think of going to work in general as slavery. We are being taxed from all angles it seems. Inflation is rampant and it's nothing more than a tax on savings. I'm starting to think that maybe it's no longer becoming worth even working for money anymore.
    The ancient greeks believed that only slaves worked, but they also thought without slaves you couldn't have an Aristotle or Plato. Slaves worked while Aristotle was working full time 'philosopher'.

    Any occasion where your time is controlled by others - you are essentially a slave.

    Which is not necessarily bad - but you have to ask yourself the question; is the money worth it? Sometimes it is, but in most cases it is just you working hard to benefit your boss.
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    I think how a person is wired determines whether he's happier working for someone or being self-employed. A lot of that wiring is set in place during childhood. What's not advisable is to be in one group or the other because of other people's expectations. I know several people in professional fields, for example, who hate their work. But they went that way because that's what everyone in their respective families did in past generations.

    I've worked for many bosses and benefited them. But I also came out in great shape. Learned new skills and accumulated a nice big pile of investments along the way. It can be symbiotic if both parties know how the system works and don't try to buck it by getting, shall we say, "overly creative," and don't try to be too much of a change agent without regard for collateral damage.

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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    This is why finding flexible work or being self employed is so appealing. You can control your income and how you want to pay yourself first and also how much you want to reinvest in your own business.

    Traditional saving mechanism are no longer working because of low interests rates. Low interest rates or negative interest rates are designed to push people to spend even more money and to discourage saving/investing. And as it has been said already the majority of consumer spending is led by women.

    Being debt free and having diversified investments is probably the best course forward for early financial independence for any man.. I think cash is king for emergency expenses but inflation and low savings interest rates makes it feel like your time is being robbed.

    I do wonder about the male NEETs but even they are actually contributing more to the overall economy by not consuming a lot of welfare but focusing more on gaming, hobbies, and with their friends.

    Think of this a male NEET is still a better bargain for the entire economic system than a woman that makes six figures due to woman studies degree and had to take out student loans while being subsidized with food, money and lodging. While the male NEET is dependent on family or friends they still have a chance of actually being a net positive to the system at some point in their life. And yet society shames the male NEET while cheering on these women that are paying to have the chance of debt slavery for a degree that has no use outside of academia.
    Good evening brother Azure. I'm not too sure what "NEET" is. Would you mind explaining it to me? I apologize if it's something that may seem common-sense but I have never heard of the term.

    Quite true that that traditional saving is no longer working. I'm trying to put my eggs in multiple baskets but I highly doubt I'll ever see a retirement. As the welfare state becomes more bankrupt, they are going to target large pots of money.

    The part about being debt free that you mentioned is huge for me. I agree with you that would be a positive coarse of action for any man.
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    Re: Im quite confused, are men poor or rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    The ancient greeks believed that only slaves worked, but they also thought without slaves you couldn't have an Aristotle or Plato. Slaves worked while Aristotle was working full time 'philosopher'.

    Any occasion where your time is controlled by others - you are essentially a slave.

    Which is not necessarily bad - but you have to ask yourself the question; is the money worth it? Sometimes it is, but in most cases it is just you working hard to benefit your boss.
    I never heard of that before. That is very interesting. I try to follow greek and roman culture as much as I'm able because it's interesting to me. There is a point to be made about working only being for slaves. I'm on the fence about working only being for slaves because although I think that working for money could be slavery, living is work. If you were alone on a desert island, you would be working but the only difference is that you are working for yourself. There is no government to steal from you.

    Asking if the money is worth it is key. I think that if you can find a job you tolerate, then it may be okay. It really is for the individual to decide. I am of a mind as of late is to work just enough to get by and not much more than that. That is the law of nature after all.
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