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    I wonder if a movie with a MGTOW ending would be accepted by the public

    Hollywood thinks everyone wants movies with the cookie cutter romcom plots that go like this:
    1. Boy meets girl
    2. Girl doesn't like boy, rejects him
    3. Boy does a bunch of amazing stuff to prove himself
    4. Girl sees she was wrong about boy, accepts him.
    5. They get together. Everyone is happy

    There have been many different variations of that, but that's your basic romcom formula. What if we had a realistic plot? Like this one.

    1. Boy meets girl
    2. Girl doesn't like boy, she rejects him
    3. Boy goes through a ton of effort to impress her.
    4. She notices his efforts, but keeps demanding more and more, as she's spinning other plates.
    5. Boy notices that she always moves the goal posts.
    6. Maybe he stands up to her. Maybe he doesn't, but he walks away, refusing to play her game.
    7. Boy builds up his own great life, doing what he wants with his life, never trying to impress women any more.
    8. Girl sees his amazing life and wants a piece of that. She's now all used up, post-wall, with kids and debts. He rejects her.

    I think Hollywood would reject such a movie, but I don't think the public would. I think that somehow if a movie like that got made, and it was well written, directed, and acted, that a whole huge portion of the movie-going audience would be sitting there totally relating. They would be there like, "Yeah, no kidding." I remember a lecture in biology class where the professor was talking about mating in the wild and how the female expected a big long ritual by the male, and if the male made one minor mistake, she would bite his head off. Several dudes in the class were scoffing and saying under their breath, "Yeah, no kidding." Those are the dudes who would totally relate to a movie where the dude just gets fed up with the game's bullshit and just quits and moves on.

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    Re: I wonder if a movie with a MGTOW ending would be accepted by the public

    I have had a basic plot for a while that goes something like;

    A man is depressed and contemplating suicide. He feels he has nothing to live for, nothing to believe in. Before he kills himself though, he just wants one perfect date with the perfect woman. He begins his adventure and soon realizes that women are far from perfect and all he seems to do is listen to them gripe and moan. He realizes that some are even using him for free dinners.

    Despite this realization, he becomes stronger for it and abandons this foolish goal and focuses on himself. He makes a fortune and lives to a ripe old age. Dies alone but he has already worked out that everyone dies alone anyway. He does die happy though, knowing he lived life on his own terms.

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    Re: I wonder if a movie with a MGTOW ending would be accepted by the public

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    I have had a basic plot for a while that goes something like;

    A man is depressed and contemplating suicide. He feels he has nothing to live for, nothing to believe in. Before he kills himself though, he just wants one perfect date with the perfect woman. He begins his adventure and soon realizes that women are far from perfect and all he seems to do is listen to them gripe and moan. He realizes that some are even using him for free dinners.

    Despite this realization, he becomes stronger for it and abandons this foolish goal and focuses on himself. He makes a fortune and lives to a ripe old age. Dies alone but he has already worked out that everyone dies alone anyway. He does die happy though, knowing he lived life on his own terms.
    Why commit suicide when you can commit homicide and live to do it again?
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    Re: I wonder if a movie with a MGTOW ending would be accepted by the public

    In 69 or 70, a si-fi movie called "a boy and his dog" was released. It's post atomic wars, with the haves living underground, and the have nots on the surface. The hero's a have not with a telepathic sheepdog that helps him survive. But there's no Miss have nots on the surface, so they kidnap one of the underground women and get away. But the dogs hurt, and the hero has to make a choice. He can abandon the dog and live with his woman, but he was barely making it with the dog. Or they can eat the woman while the dog heals. The final scene has the hero and the dog walking off into the sunset.

    It wasn't MGTOW, though it could be argued it was. At any rate, Hollywood's no doubt sorry this turkey ever saw the light of day. For sure it was never released again, and hardly anyone has ever heard of it. That I'm afraid, would be the fate of your average MGTOW movie. If you could sneak it in the backdoor, like a old western pretending to take on modern problems, that might have a chance. But for the most part, I don't think the worlds ready for a MGTOW movie yet.
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    Re: I wonder if a movie with a MGTOW ending would be accepted by the public

    A pretty close 'man discovers going his own way post-marriage' movie that could have had a much-better ending is 'American Beauty (1999)'.

    Synopsis goes like this:

    1) Guy is in a typical sexless marriage with a cheating, career-driven wife who thrives on keeping up appearances.
    He is looked down on and treated as a fool by both his wife and his daughter.

    2) He has a sexual fantasy over his daughter's friend and a mid-life crisis, eventually leading to him pursuing his own happiness and his own self-worth.

    3) He stands up to his boss, quits his job to work at a place which in his younger days brought him the most happiness (a burger joint). He uses his severance package to buy a dream car, starts working out and getting high recreationally (doing what he wants and pleases).

    4) He eventually discovers his wife's infidelity and stands up to her (she cannot tell him what to do ever again).

    5) He also turns down his sexual fantasy (daughter's friend).

    6) His wife contemplates separation and divorce and brings a gun with her to confront him.

    The ending could have been him living a good, happy life on his own terms, keeping fit, working part hours at a burger joint, separated from his wife (since he quit his job and works for minimum wage, she would probably have to pay him in a divorce) while his daughter ran-off with the weed-dealer.

    Instead we are treated to an ending where the closeted gay neighbour kills him after being discovered - I'm speculating here that in the director's opinion, the story weighed better with a man who finally discovers going his own way being killed, rather than simply living a good life and being happy - the latter probably would have been a less dramatic ending.


    Quotes:

    Lester Burnham:I am sick and tired of being treated like I don't exist.

    Lester Burnham:
    This hasn't been a marriage, for years, but you were happy as long as I kept my mouth shut. Well guess what, I've changed!

    Caroline Burnham: This is a $4,000 sofa upholstered with Italian silk! This is not just a couch!
    Lester Burnham: IT'S JUST A COUCH! This isn't life! This is just stuff. And it's become more important to you than living.

    Caroline Burnham: WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?!
    Lester Burnham: Uh Oh, Mom's mad. Bench presses. I'm going to wail on my pecs and then I'm gonna do my back.

    [Carolyn and Buddy have just been caught cheating by Lester]
    Lester Burnham: No, no. You... don't get to tell me what to do... ever... again.
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