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    "I still value you as a good friend"

    Ok, so im sure everyone has gotten this line before. "its not going to work between us, but I still value you as a good friend." or "we can still be friends."
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
    So let me get this straight, you had the whole package of the relationship, it just wasnt good enough and you had to ride the CC, or jump to the next warm body. But you are so self centered that you want just parts of that person you like the best in your life but not the whole package anymore.

    I personally never in my life allowed this. When i was dating and involved in a relationship, my thought was: when you cross that line of steady relationship you void the chance to be friends again.

    I know quite a few friends that claim to still be "friends" with a ex. To me this is a form of cuckholding. The feeemale still gets what she wants from you ( her favorite parts ) but you get nothing out of it. other than knowing shes having a blast on the CC.

    by the way, new here. hope i posted in the right spot. Im full on in ghost mode. Posting thoughts i wanted to get off my mind thats bothered me about what past feeemales have said.

    Responses are welcomed on this one.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
    I gotta say I agree with this. The idea that a woman can have what was supposed to be an emotional investment in me but then, what, she flips a switch in her brain and I'm now a friend?

    No. The old fashioned way is, upon breakup, you broke up. As in, stop seeing each other. No reset. This isn't the TV show Friends where the different characters swap partners as the series goes on and, hey, now it's a new way.

    by the way, new here. hope i posted in the right spot.
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    thank, I did write a intro. i think it set my stage/ of where im coming from pretty well. thanks for having me here

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I gotta say I agree with this. The idea that a woman can have what was supposed to be an emotional investment in me but then, what, she flips a switch in her brain and I'm now a friend?

    No. The old fashioned way is, upon breakup, you broke up. As in, stop seeing each other. No reset. This isn't the TV show Friends where the different characters swap partners as the series goes on and, hey, now it's a new way.

    The funny part about how they think thats ok, almost 9-10 times they end up in the future trying to make contact again. The last one and i mean thee last one! i slammed that door so hard, it came off as a total insult to me more than it ever had.
    Last edited by Unboxxed; December 16, 2021 at 5:58 AM. Reason: added close-quote tag

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Ok, so im sure everyone has gotten this line before. "its not going to work between us, but I still value you as a good friend." or "we can still be friends."
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
    So let me get this straight, you had the whole package of the relationship, it just wasnt good enough and you had to ride the CC, or jump to the next warm body. But you are so self centered that you want just parts of that person you like the best in your life but not the whole package anymore.

    I personally never in my life allowed this. When i was dating and involved in a relationship, my thought was: when you cross that line of steady relationship you void the chance to be friends again.

    I know quite a few friends that claim to still be "friends" with a ex. To me this is a form of cuckholding. The feeemale still gets what she wants from you ( her favorite parts ) but you get nothing out of it. other than knowing shes having a blast on the CC.

    by the way, new here. hope i posted in the right spot. Im full on in ghost mode. Posting thoughts i wanted to get off my mind thats bothered me about what past feeemales have said.

    Responses are welcomed on this one.
    What's in it for you?

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by dsf978e View Post
    What's in it for you?
    Nothing. obviously.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    thank, I did write a intro. i think it set my stage/ of where im coming from pretty well. thanks for having me here
    Oops, my bad. You did do an Intro. Glad you're here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    The funny part about how they think thats ok, almost 9-10 times they end up in the future trying to make contact again.
    Is "9-10 times" a feature of the modern culture? Maybe older members can weigh in on the frequency in older times.
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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Nothing. obviously.
    Yes, this is how it usually is, I think. If there was a very good friendship before there was romance then there might be something to be had but it's hard to go back to that. Sometimes it can be alright for me if I was the one who did the dumping or rejecting and we have things in common, but maybe that's playing the other side of the game. I don't know.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Ok, so im sure everyone has gotten this line before. "its not going to work between us, but I still value you as a good friend." or "we can still be friends."
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Smoke the bitch, get on with your life.

    I've had enough practice to know what I'm talking about. With enough "practice" you see them coming and let them go like a bull fighter in a ring! When they stop letting you ride them you can bet they're sharpening their horns to impale you.

    With enough of that practice, one day you'll realize you weren't meant to be bullfighter and you leave the stadium and the bulls for a better life. I'm lucky I wasn't gored like so many men I know, and I attribute that to the face that I can take a hint and change course on a dime! One needs to be absolutely fluid when dealing with modern women, anything solid will tear you apart like a wooden hull on a coral reef!

    I played the game of yo-yo once and only once, after that psychotic bitch I learned to cut and run at the slightest hint of betrayal and the emotional gymnastics that accompany life as her yo-yo.

    Dump the bitch off a cliff of rejection and go about your merry little way without a single concern for her. Give her "equality" the same equal treatment she had no qualms or reservations about inflicting on you.

    Yo-yo, string, sizers, it's that simple, cut string, roll away....
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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Ok, so im sure everyone has gotten this line before. "its not going to work between us, but I still value you as a good friend." or "we can still be friends."
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
    So let me get this straight, you had the whole package of the relationship, it just wasnt good enough and you had to ride the CC, or jump to the next warm body. But you are so self centered that you want just parts of that person you like the best in your life but not the whole package anymore.

    I personally never in my life allowed this. When i was dating and involved in a relationship, my thought was: when you cross that line of steady relationship you void the chance to be friends again.

    I know quite a few friends that claim to still be "friends" with a ex. To me this is a form of cuckholding. The feeemale still gets what she wants from you ( her favorite parts ) but you get nothing out of it. other than knowing shes having a blast on the CC.

    by the way, new here. hope i posted in the right spot. Im full on in ghost mode. Posting thoughts i wanted to get off my mind thats bothered me about what past feeemales have said.

    Responses are welcomed on this one.
    The only smart response to the "we can still be friends" line is to ghost her. You may have to first placate her with some clichéd crap like, "why shore, friendship is important," but then after that never speak to her or write to her again. If you still have any social media accounts open, you may have to block her.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    I would just say sure and then completely ignore her no matter what.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    The only smart response to the "we can still be friends" line is to ghost her. You may have to first placate her with some clichéd crap like, "why shore, friendship is important," but then after that never speak to her or write to her again. If you still have any social media accounts open, you may have to block her.
    Quote Originally Posted by BedroomBully View Post
    I would just say sure and then completely ignore her no matter what.
    I dunno, I think I would take my 1960's Chrysler product and leave rubber all the way down her driveway, then half way down the street, cussing and cursing her name, then never see her again, until one day years later, at the Springfield Shopping Plaza, I see her coke-out, strung out, fucked out, hell-of-a-mess walking my way with Chad in tow, she couldn't even look me in the eye, she went from a 9, to a 1 or 2 as her occupation became full time coke whore. Party girls always go down in flames!

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Easy, just tell her that you value her pussy and you would like to remain friends with it and it only. No need for talking, listening to her BS. Just fuck. That's as one sided as her offering of "friendship".

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday cult leader View Post
    Ok, so im sure everyone has gotten this line before. "its not going to work between us, but I still value you as a good friend." or "we can still be friends."
    Is it just me? This is probably the most sociopathic phrase / mindset ive ever heard.
    No, I’ve never gotten this line before in my entire life. I also don’t think it’s sociopathic.

    Let me explain:
    When I was young, I thought life was nuanced. As I get older I more and more realize how black and white life is.

    Women sort men into two categories: Guys they wanna fuck and guys they can rope into a “relationship”. You always fall into one of those two categories. There is no grey zone.

    I always knew that I never want to be the guy they manipulate into a relationship. That’s why I’ve never heard that line.

    If you’ve gotten this line, then you’ve made the mistake of imagining a relationship. As a man you are supposed to be the master of your life. You are NEVER supposed to become attached to a woman. Women absolutely despise men that have those kinds of feelings for them.

    By putting you in the friendzone, they are teaching you a valuable lesson!!

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    Awesome responses! To clarify, when this bill shit line was said was back in august after yo yoing me around with “I just need time” crap. She had already found a new warm body. So the “ friends” thing was her attempt after I busted her with this guy to still have some kind of emotional control over me.

    My response was this, fuck you. Don’t ever contact me again. I hope everything you have done, will taunt your thoughts, and you re live this scenario as the person being played for the rest of your life.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser View Post
    Easy, just tell her that you value her pussy and you would like to remain friends with it and it only. No need for talking, listening to her BS. Just fuck. That's as one sided as her offering of "friendship".
    Spot. The. Fuck. On.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Yes I’ve had this, and I fell for it hook, line and sinker.

    I’d become so close to her whole family I didn’t want to give this up. My mistake.

    What they mean by “let’s be friends” is that they want to use you as an emotional and financial tampon.

    Try bringing any of your life issues to them and watch as they run for the hills.

    Friends? I thought it was meant to be a two way thing. Man did I get my eyes opened.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    I used to get that kind of thing a lot. "You're a really nice guy, you're smart, funny, easy to talk to but..." my take on it is they like to have "Orbiters" guys who they probably would never fuck but in a pinch, you never know, right?! So they keep these guys hanging around, knowing they like them. The guys try and do things for them, can be a shoulder to cry on after Chad punches them in the face for the 10th time that week and fucks their sister.

    Maybe, just maybe if the Orbiter is in the right place at the right time she might throw him some scraps, some starfish action if she is in the mood or feels she is losing her influence. But really, if she does feel she is losing her influence she will engage in a shit test, she will act jealous or upset about something. She will put him on the ropes and watch him struggle to understand what is going on.

    I found myself on the ropes once and realized that what I was being put through should also mean I am getting sex and I wasn't from her so I walked away. I had mostly worked women out by that point anyway so it was just another bit of lunacy about them that I discovered.

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    Re: "I still value you as a good friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    I used to get that kind of thing a lot. "You're a really nice guy, you're smart, funny, easy to talk to but..." my take on it is they like to have "Orbiters" guys who they probably would never fuck but in a pinch, you never know, right?! So they keep these guys hanging around, knowing they like them. The guys try and do things for them, can be a shoulder to cry on after Chad punches them in the face for the 10th time that week and fucks their sister.

    Maybe, just maybe if the Orbiter is in the right place at the right time she might throw him some scraps, some starfish action if she is in the mood or feels she is losing her influence. But really, if she does feel she is losing her influence she will engage in a shit test, she will act jealous or upset about something. She will put him on the ropes and watch him struggle to understand what is going on.

    I found myself on the ropes once and realized that what I was being put through should also mean I am getting sex and I wasn't from her so I walked away. I had mostly worked women out by that point anyway so it was just another bit of lunacy about them that I discovered.
    Like I’ve said above in responses, I slammed that door so hard. Im no cuck. Finished with the game. Don’t get me wrong, im not playing a game by ghosting these kinds out, but find 9 out of 10 times, When you cut them comply out, they eventually try to come crawling back. That’s my favorite part. Lol then I just act as cold as they were. Sorry no chance in hell bitch.


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