Thread: I found that married men are completely unreliable,

I still have male friends that are married, and I'm in mind to cut them.

It's either they don't have time for me, and they're busy, or that they can't hang out with me, because he "Need to spend with his wife" all the time. I'm like, what the fuck.

I'm in mind to make friends with single men, and cut the fucking married men out.

Anyway, their mind is fucked. Woman first, Him last. All married men are Bluepilled as fuck.

Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving

I still have male friends that are married, and I'm in mind to cut them.

It's either they don't have time for me, and they're busy, or that they can't hang out with me, because he "Need to spend with his wife" all the time. I'm like, what the fuck.

I'm in mind to make friends with single men, and cut the fucking married men out.

It's ill advised to "cut friends out" unless they've burned you somehow, nobody has any right to demand or expect a certain amount of time, time is eternal, burning bridges should be reserved for adversaries, we need all the the bridges we can find with safe passages, all the rest burn the deck and pull out the pilings! Disrespect and dishonesty is the deal breaker, otherwise keep things intact and alive.

I say be friendly to women but don't be friends, that's a bridge best not crosses and I talk from experience, not out of my ass, It's best that women like you, not hate you, and not love you, it's a very important niche in modern social dynamics, it's a hovercraft for floating over a minefield! The important thing is not sustaining damage and harm.

My father's SAC airwing commander once told my father; "isn't it better to make friends than enemies?", advising him in military etiquette and basics on how to get along. It was profound to him and something he taught me.

Who'd think words on a USAF SAC base uttered 70 years ago would live on in the words I repeat today? Truth lasts forever, no expiration date!

Prospectors say gold is where you find it, and so it is with friends. Not all married guys are jerks.

If they put you on the back burner because of their women, there's no need to do anything. In a couple a year's, neither one of you will care. As long as they're not asking for help that's not going to be returned, what they do is their business. It can't be fixed and not everybody's going to measure up.

Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving

I still have male friends that are married, and I'm in mind to cut them.

It's either they don't have time for me, and they're busy, or that they can't hang out with me, because he "Need to spend with his wife" all the time. I'm like, what the fuck.

I'm in mind to make friends with single men, and cut the fucking married men out.

Here is what they are saying without having the balls to say it to your face. "Fuck off. I don't want to be bothered".

I went through that many times. If they claim to be sooooooooooooooooooo f***ing busy but yet they keep in contact with other people then that tells you all you need to know. Stop kissing their asses and move on. One thing I learned in life is this. People will always make time for the people and things they want. I have had people use their kids against me when I tried to make plans . "Oh I'm so busy with the kids", "You don't have kids so you dont understand", etc but those same people would take off with someone to a concert, bar, or some event in a second's notice! They found someone to watch the kids in literally no time. I would ask to hang out when the kids were in school on one of my days off at the time.

Another thing to notice is if they only hang out if you are buying them things. Do they only hang out when you pay for lunch? That tells you all you need to know.

We live in the social media generation. Getting in contact with someone is a freaking button away! There is no excuses.

It's a good thing I don't have this problem with my only best friend. He's MGTOW because of me and his unhappily married older brother. Even he can't stand the bitches, just like me. I even told him one thing about married guys is that they hardly or ever see their buddies and it would be the same if he were to get paired up. So we decided it's better that he and I stick together and even in the future when we buy a house where I live where all rooms will be Man Cave Central. Heck, on the 17th of this month, he and I will be celebrating 20 years together. We met July 17, 2002 at a local carnival at one of those quarter push machines.

Lastly, don't dismiss your married friends yet. When my dad was married to my mom for 13 years, he was allowed to spend Wednesday night bowling league with his work friends and she didn't care. Some times he would take me with, and some times I stayed home where my mom fed me and my brother and helped with homework.

I'm guessing most of your friends aren't too far into their married years. They are unreliable during the early years of marriage, when the wife hasn't yet entirely broken their spirit. Later they come to be more reliable, something like domesticated beasts. Then you can rely on them to act within the limits of what the master allows. You can still be friendly but low expectations are a good idea. They'll flow in and out of your life according to what the wife dictates.

Last week I had lunch with a long-time married friend. His wife gave him furlough for a precise 90 minutes. I think he even set an alarm on his watch to make sure he got back before the deadline. 90 minutes was plenty of time for him to guzzle several beers. This isn't some young guy just getting used to the saddle. He's 65 years old. Fortunately, I only see him once every couple of years. Just seeing this shitshow gets depressing.

On a more positive note, in later years some married men get a longer leash. I've known some of them for 20 years and have never even seen the wives. These guys at least get the illusion of being free, maybe just on Sunday morning for a few hours.

It all can get more comical as the years go by, if you nurture and maintain your independent perspective.

Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving

I still have male friends that are married, and I'm in mind to cut them.

It's either they don't have time for me, and they're busy, or that they can't hang out with me, because he "Need to spend with his wife" all the time. I'm like, what the fuck.

I'm in mind to make friends with single men, and cut the fucking married men out.

Some married dude will intend to meet up with you, but then his cunty wife will override his decision, and even threaten to withhold sex if he doesn't bow to her will. They're slaves. It just reinforces what we know: Marriage is a shit deal for men, for many, many reasons.

One of my biggest regrets from my BP days was letting some good friends fall by the wayside in favor of the princess. And for exactly the reason Tig says. If she didn’t get my full attention, I wouldn’t touch a tit or bury a boner for weeks.

I’ve got to say though that most of them were genuine friends in the long run because when I was getting divorce raped, they were all there for me. The fact that I faded away when I got married didn’t matter. I now have a pretty good network of friends, some of who were on hiatus for the whole 22 years I was on the plantation. Those are real friends that are worth having.

So be patient- things change over time. Someone who seems distant now could turn out to be a true blessing later.

The group of friends that I hang out with on a regular basis consists of 1 married guy, 2 PUA's, 2 complete simps, and 1 NFG guy. We do a ton of stuff together and the 1 married guy always has a curfew of sorts. The NFG, the 2 PUA's, and the 2 simps are always down for fun activities. Unfortunately, the simps and the PUA's can't talk of much else than pussy, and the pursuit of it, but they are still fun to hang with. The NFG and myself usually just chuckle at the desperation of the others.
All of them will jump through flaming hoops for pussy but I still like to hang with them because they are fun.
I haven't told any of them about my MGTOW status.

I've googled and searched here and found nothing.... what's an NFG?

Originally Posted by Spooky

what's an NFG?

No fucks given.

A lot of guys will use the wife as an excuse when really they're just too tired and/or lazy to go out. Married life burns you out and saps your will to live. My married friends don't contact me anymore so I stopped contacting them.

Originally Posted by Spooky

I've googled and searched here and found nothing.... what's an NFG?

He is Not Flaming Gay. Obvious.

If you use an acronym and it is not found in the first few hits of google or urban dictionary, then every other poster after you can make whatever up just like you did by using an acronym nobody knows.

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

No fucks given.

Meant as a synonym for IDGAF (I don't give a fuck) and not as an expression of celibacy (which may or may not also be true).

I was abandoned by my friends before I came to the conclusion that I don't need them the same way they don´t need me too. That is, I turned Mgtow for friendships before turning MGTOW itself. Stop caring for toxic female validation was the result of stopping caring for socializing in general.

When I was bluepill I even ask some females if it´s possible have a girlfriend without have friends and they say a clear "NO" for me. The best "no" that I receive in my life.

Originally Posted by mgtower

It's ill advised to "cut friends out" unless they've burned you somehow, nobody has any right to demand or expect a certain amount of time, time is eternal, burning bridges should be reserved for adversaries, we need all the the bridges we can find with safe passages, all the rest burn the deck and pull out the pilings! Disrespect and dishonesty is the deal breaker, otherwise keep things intact and alive.

I say be friendly to women but don't be friends, that's a bridge best not crosses and I talk from experience, not out of my ass, It's best that women like you, not hate you, and not love you, it's a very important niche in modern social dynamics, it's a hovercraft for floating over a minefield! The important thing is not sustaining damage and harm.

My father's SAC airwing commander once told my father; "isn't it better to make friends than enemies?", advising him in military etiquette and basics on how to get along. It was profound to him and something he taught me.

Who'd think words on a USAF SAC base uttered 70 years ago would live on in the words I repeat today? Truth lasts forever, no expiration date!

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

Here is what they are saying without having the balls to say it to your face. "Fuck off. I don't want to be bothered".

I went through that many times. If they claim to be sooooooooooooooooooo f***ing busy but yet they keep in contact with other people then that tells you all you need to know. Stop kissing their asses and move on. One thing I learned in life is this. People will always make time for the people and things they want. I have had people use their kids against me when I tried to make plans . "Oh I'm so busy with the kids", "You don't have kids so you dont understand", etc but those same people would take off with someone to a concert, bar, or some event in a second's notice! They found someone to watch the kids in literally no time. I would ask to hang out when the kids were in school on one of my days off at the time.

Another thing to notice is if they only hang out if you are buying them things. Do they only hang out when you pay for lunch? That tells you all you need to know.

We live in the social media generation. Getting in contact with someone is a freaking button away! There is no excuses.

They will never be your best friends or even visit you at the hospital but they still can be useful. Keep them but NOT as friend.

Originally Posted by Survivor64

One of my biggest regrets from my BP days was letting some good friends fall by the wayside in favor of the princess. And for exactly the reason Tig says. If she didn’t get my full attention, I wouldn’t touch a tit or bury a boner for weeks.

I’ve got to say though that most of them were genuine friends in the long run because when I was getting divorce raped, they were all there for me. The fact that I faded away when I got married didn’t matter. I now have a pretty good network of friends, some of who were on hiatus for the whole 22 years I was on the plantation. Those are real friends that are worth having.

So be patient- things change over time. Someone who seems distant now could turn out to be a true blessing later.

This is great men. You are luck with friendship

Originally Posted by Chris007

The group of friends that I hang out with on a regular basis consists of 1 married guy, 2 PUA's, 2 complete simps, and 1 NFG guy

This is a weird gang. Thanks God, there is no women in this group.

Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneThat

Last week I had lunch with a long-time married friend. His wife gave him furlough for a precise 90 minutes. I think he even set an alarm on his watch to make sure he got back before the deadline. 90 minutes was plenty of time for him to guzzle several beers. This isn't some young guy just getting used to the saddle. He's 65 years old. Fortunately, I only see him once every couple of years. Just seeing this shitshow gets depressing.

Depressing is underrated. I cannot even imagine me living like that. This is beyond pathetic.

Originally Posted by mgtower

It's ill advised to "cut friends out" unless they've burned you somehow, nobody has any right to demand or expect a certain amount of time, time is eternal, burning bridges should be reserved for adversaries, we need all the the bridges we can find with safe passages, all the rest burn the deck and pull out the pilings! Disrespect and dishonesty is the deal breaker, otherwise keep things intact and alive.

Beat me to it.

People are what they are. It's unwise to expect too much, but they can always surprise you. And besides: "I'm buthhurt because you haven't lived up to my expectations" is a silly, shitty way to think and live.

Relax. Chill. Cut your peeps some slack. Life is too short to demand that everyone else do it your way.

Same with all my maried friends with kids. Cant do shitnalone with them like old times. Their wife or kids are always in the way. Cant do that wife planned this. Cant do that kids are sick. Blah blah blah. The only time i can spend with them is when i show up to their place spending time with wife and kids. I used to like kids before. Not anymore since a while. I like their wife as friend before they got maried and again it chamged once they got maried. Enjoy your freedom gents.

It's always possible the married guys drift away because single friends are reminders of the path not taken. And they may be ashamed of how tight the leash is kept. I remember in my 20's when the newly married guys would have to ask permission before doing even limited recreational activities. As time goes on and they get used to being domesticated, they'd rather just interact with others in the same situation. They can get together and bitch about common problems the single guys won't relate to. It isn't their fault, just the flow of life and consequences of choices made.

In my experience long term friendships are a scarce thing in modern society. So not burning bridges is a good idea, unless the friend is just a taker.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Some married dude will intend to meet up with you, but then his cunty wife will override his decision, and even threaten to withhold sex if he doesn't bow to her will. They're slaves. It just reinforces what we know: Marriage is a shit deal for men, for many, many reasons.

I agree. It's dumb. Marriage is a shit deal. Why would I get married. Hell no. So now, some married guy can't hang out with me or do film projects like they agreed upon. I"m still in mind to cut married guys. Only ones I trust will stay. Not sorry about married guys. I wouldn't get married at all, whatsoever.