Thread: I figured out what destroyed western women

I was doing some thinking over a game of Ace Combat 4 when it finally hit me. I have a proper theory of why women are so heavily mentally screwed up. It is because of marketing.

If you look at it this way what is the primary means from which companies a company gets its message to the public its advertizing. What do women consume alot of? Magazines, TV shows and crappy hollywood movies which are packed to the max with... MARKETING!!!

Also if you are from a business background like me you know that in order to best sell a product it has to trigger a set of emotions. Jealousy, inferiority, greed etc which modern adds do well.

Now if you look at the main message received by these twats its "You're not good enough unless you own my product." Eventually due to all the ads they develop an inferiority complex and then any man who treats them with any respect is classified as a beta because the twat has internalized that she is worthless. Her reasoning would be that if she "ain't shit" than this guy is worth even less because he is kissing up to her.

Since TV and other adds are spreading to the 3rd world we are seeing a drop in the birthrate, this could be due to the marketers expanding their reach. What I interpret this to mean is that both feminism and materialistic twats will be all over the 3rd world as well and there will be no escaping eventually.

TL;DR marketing is the real reason we're up shit's creak w/ regards to women and feminism is just a side effect.


Your thoughts gentlemen?

Wrong. Women have always been psycho and fucked up (pun not intended). Read history of how women (primarily upper class) behaved. You will see similarities with how modern women behave as well. Cheating and animalistic behaviour in women have always been around in addition to men. That is why strict rules and control of women was imposed in the old days by older men (mainly the girl's dads) and young men had to be also follow rules and customs to get the girl.

All marketting does is exploit the already existing inner demons of a woman and stimulate them.

Originally Posted by hellgorama

Wrong. Women have always been psycho and fucked up (pun not intended). Read history of how women (primarily upper class) behaved. You will see similarities with how modern women behave as well. Cheating and animalistic behaviour in women have always been around in addition to men. That is why strict rules and control of women was imposed in the old days by older men (mainly the girl's dads) and young men had to be also follow rules and customs to get the girl.

All marketting does is exploit the already existing inner demons of a woman and stimulate them.

I'm not going to deny that they are pretty animalistic but how do you explain the last 60 years then. Religion and traditionalism was not supplanted by nothing, it was displaced by materialism. Marketing departments are their propaganda arm. If you add the fact that feminism created a whole new consumer base they would need to be told what to buy by somebody.

Western mothers.

It isn't just marketing that's responsible. It's the overall image that's being pushed on women. They have to look like whatever talentless starlet or celebrity who's famous for being famous just happens to grace the covers of the scandal rags. In addition, there are certain TV chat show hosts who have the same power as religious figures when it comes to shaping opinions--whatever those people say is perceived as being equal with a divine command.

It can be summed up as "monkey see, monkey do".

Originally Posted by Invisible Target

I'm not going to deny that they are pretty animalistic but how do you explain the last 60 years then. Religion and traditionalism was not supplanted by nothing, it was displaced by materialism. Marketing departments are their propaganda arm. If you add the fact that feminism created a whole new consumer base they would need to be told what to buy by somebody.

Religion and traditionalism are for community and family roles. The majority of people in the USA are single now. They are not in a traditional family, buy they may still go to church if they don't have another community function to replace religion. Materialism is a hobby when they don't have their time occupied serving family rules. Some people don't even have community roles.

I think patrice o'neal nailed it when he said "women are losers."

Women were screwed up long before mass media.
They are inherently screwed up.
It is their nature.

Household electrification.

I think Invisible Target is on to something, but it's not a singlular factor obviously.

Normally phenomena have multiple causes or contributing factors. Not all factors interact with each other, but when they do, there are usually two ways factors can interact;

1. Two factors amplify each other. The "positive feedback loop". For example, New York City enforced laws for minor property crimes, and found that drug dealers started abandoning neighbourhoods with less broken windows and graffitti. The reduction in drug retailing further reduced broken windows and graffitti, etc etc.

2. Two factors balance each other. The "state of equilibrium". For example, Apple makes a nifty phone that's also a computer. The price skyrockets. However that high price attracts other companies into the market like Samsung, who produce something similar, increasing competition and lowering the price to an equilibrium level.

I think that female instinct and marketing are a "positive feedback loop" - they appear to feed off each other...

Originally Posted by hellgorama

All marketting does is exploit the already existing inner demons of a woman and stimulate them.

I think that's what the OP is saying. Except he is precisely pinpointing the manner in which it accomplishes this.

A few tales of female misbehavior from the Victorian era is not evidence that female behavior was always the same. This static view of female nature seems to get all its currency from simple repetition and is totally divorced from the reality that culture strongly shapes behavior, especially in women.

I agree that advertising is a factor. However, I think relationship failure with higher SMV men is what primarily makes women think they are worthless. Some advertising instills or rather amplifies female entitlement, the favorite approach is along the lines of "because you're worth it". Similar variations are 'you know you deserve it', etc. The cover rationale for this selfishness is the laughable notion that women, by default, suppress their wants in favor of others so the occasional self-indulgence is warranted.

Advertising reflects the spirit of the times. There are ads from decades ago that encourage a man to blow smoke in a woman's face. The zeitgeist is formed by many factors and while advertising influences it, while it leads at times, it must also follow. But it does play on people's subconscious. The numerous ads targeting women and encouraging them to buy because they 'deserve' this or that is also reflective of the entitlement culture that is reinforced by the mass media, by political feminism, by blue pill parents, and by horndog men who can become sex-crazed from porn and spend each waking minute advertising their sexual desperation to as many women per day as possible.

The thing that commercialism/marketing has done is bombard people with advertising that, over time and with regular to high exposure unrealistically raises the expectations many people have about what their lives will be. Children are not taught how to think. They are taught what to think. Critical thinking is no longer a skill taught by parents or schools. As such, children are not taught to filter advertising and commercials for the junk visual and auditory information they represent.

That alone would be bad enough, but with a declining economy, and with Business (Oligarchal Corporatism) having no loyalty to or focus upon the American worker as vital, people are getting hit from both their own unrealistic expectations about what their lives should be and also by an unforgiving government/political, business, and finance class that is only out to serve the needs of the existing wealth and power classes.

1. Bombardment with lifestyles which are unrealistic via television shows and movies
2. with further penetration via commercials for all kinds of products
3. and those products are being sold based on forming an identity/connection/image with the target consumer/buyer - not for quality, or even dependability even when those words get used.

In a very real sense, most people's expectations about how their lives should be are bound up in a never ending fantasy, where when reality does intrude it creates disappointment leading to depressive moods because of unrealistic expectations which can never be met. Couple that with the 'consumer' mindset of buy-buy-buy for the sake of buying 'things' and many are never happy with what they have, always needing to get more and more to satisfy an urge which will never be fully sated, and where an inability to BUY causes even more depression all for the sake of getting things, mostly which are not necessary or actual needs.

My good man, the western women or indeed any group of women for that matter are not destroyed by anything. Women are just being women.

This notion that women are somehow pure loving compassionate creatures that have been corrupted by modernity or technology or advertising is a way of thinking that stems from the male mother need or the need of men to find a woman that will love him unconditionally for who and what he is. In many cases, the woman who usually does this kind of idealized love bullshit is a mother. As such, mothers cannot be seen as faulty or just inadequate. They must be this formerly uncorrupted snowflake that was polluted by something else and now the man needs to don on his white knight suit and ride to the rescue of the lady.

Feminism, marketing, cultural marxism, political left, birth control, social justice...These things did not corrupt women or destroy them or ruin them...Rather it revealed them and exposed them as what they truly are...

Here is an analogy for you :- You can think of the woman as a vampire and things such as feminism, marketing, etc as the loss of sun and sunlight. Before, the sun and its light was around so vampires cannot be truly themselves. But now, with the sun gone and with the rise of all encompassing night through natural means, not by some secret cabal, the vampires can shag off their mask and be the true blood sucking creatures that they are.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Darth Sin

My good man, the western women or indeed any group of women for that matter are not destroyed by anything. Women are just being women.

This notion that women are somehow pure loving compassionate creatures that have been corrupted by modernity or technology or advertising is a way of thinking that stems from the male mother need or the need of men to find a woman that will love him unconditionally for who and what he is. In many cases, the woman who usually does this kind of idealized love bullshit is a mother. As such, mothers cannot be seen as faulty or just inadequate. They must be this formerly uncorrupted snowflake that was polluted by something else and now the man needs to don on his white knight suit and ride to the rescue of the lady.

Feminism, marketing, cultural marxism, political left, birth control, social justice...These things did not corrupt women or destroy them or ruin them...Rather it revealed them and exposed them as what they truly are...

Here is an analogy for you :- You can think of the woman as a vampire and things such as feminism, marketing, etc as the loss of sun and sunlight. Before, the sun and its light was around so vampires cannot be truly themselves. But now, with the sun gone and with the rise of all encompassing night through natural means, not by some secret cabal, the vampires can shag off their mask and be the true blood sucking creatures that they are.

Cheers.

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Well spoken bro.
Sick of the tiresome excuses for female nature that men come up with. Another way of shifting blame and relieving women of responsibility.

Originally Posted by Darth Sin

My good man, the western women or indeed any group of women for that matter are not destroyed by anything. Women are just being women.

...

Feminism, marketing, cultural marxism, political left, birth control, social justice...These things did not corrupt women or destroy them or ruin them...Rather it revealed them and exposed them as what they truly are...

Here is an analogy for you :- You can think of the woman as a vampire and things such as feminism, marketing, etc as the loss of sun and sunlight. Before, the sun and its light was around so vampires cannot be truly themselves. But now, with the sun gone and with the rise of all encompassing night through natural means, not by some secret cabal, the vampires can shag off their mask and be the true blood sucking creatures that they are.

Cheers.

Well I'm glad you mentioned this. 60 Years ago men had a control mechanism that allowed them to tolerate their wives depravity, and that was traditionalism. This means at some point in the past wise men realized that you couldn't reason with women and they had to be controlled by force either cultural or physical. Whoever destroyed this control mechanism knew very well the disgusting nature of women and likely didn't care if it destroyed the narrative that women were wonderful. Now this means that we have the unfiltered truth about women and their ways.

Also as Chairborne was mentioning before there is a positive feedback loop between rad fem and marketing. It's both the left arm and the right arm pushing the same message. You're strong and independent now buy my products. Add to that most people these days don't understand how to think critically and you have just created a very profitable dumbass demographic.

And yes Jagr the women in this demographic have unrealistic expectations that lead them to fail with higher SMV men that will re-enforce this cycle. They are brainwashed to think that they are the top 5% of women and they are entitled to nothing but the best even if they are a 4. They in a sense may have fallen prey to their own version of Apex fallacy.

Finally in order to understand a system you must understand how and why it is controlled. Women in spite of their "mystery" are nothing but a system. One day we might figure them out so well that we'll be able to write an owner's manual for them .

Originally Posted by Invisible Target

Finally in order to understand a system you must understand how and why it is controlled. Women in spite of their "mystery" are nothing but a system. One day we might figure them out so well that we'll be able to write an owner's manual for them .

To heck with an owner's manual. What Society needs is a repair manual.

Another part is that most modern woman are not mothers anymore. They are not mothers! When I watched animal docus i saw true mothers and that was a sad truth for me. Even a frog mother or spider mother is a better one then these horrible creatures raising children. They should raise man or woman according to the ancient true principles and not people or children of whatever suits them the most. They have left the footsteps of nature long ago and to hell with them today. But many man arent realy better so it´s not just their fault alone. Christianity was a curse for all of us so called pagan indo-europeans believe me. IT was and still is.

Hormones. It's that simple. Watching GF give birth to Wilf Jr, I realised the plain truth of the fact. Without hormones to override rational reasoning and logic, they'd never be able to give birth. Same with breastfeeding - quote from GF "It hurts like hell but I miss it when I'm not doing it".

Someone else on the board summed it up with "Oxytocin - more dangerous than heroin" and they were bang on the money. They are slaves to their hormones, incapable of rational thought, incapable of being reasoned with. And now in this era of emotional correctness (thank you, Princess fucking Diana), emotional reasoning is prized over logic and packaged as "Sensitivity."

Logic designed Concorde. Sensitivity never accomplished shit.

Originally Posted by Darth Sin

My good man, the western women or indeed any group of women for that matter are not destroyed by anything. Women are just being women.

This notion that women are somehow pure loving compassionate creatures that have been corrupted by modernity or technology or advertising is a way of thinking that stems from the male mother need or the need of men to find a woman that will love him unconditionally for who and what he is. In many cases, the woman who usually does this kind of idealized love bullshit is a mother. As such, mothers cannot be seen as faulty or just inadequate. They must be this formerly uncorrupted snowflake that was polluted by something else and now the man needs to don on his white knight suit and ride to the rescue of the lady.

Feminism, marketing, cultural marxism, political left, birth control, social justice...These things did not corrupt women or destroy them or ruin them...Rather it revealed them and exposed them as what they truly are...

Here is an analogy for you :- You can think of the woman as a vampire and things such as feminism, marketing, etc as the loss of sun and sunlight. Before, the sun and its light was around so vampires cannot be truly themselves. But now, with the sun gone and with the rise of all encompassing night through natural means, not by some secret cabal, the vampires can shag off their mask and be the true blood sucking creatures that they are.

Cheers.

When people become angry, they stereotype. You see it all the time; you see it on racist forums towards whoever they hate. You see it in places that rail against jews, blacks, immigrants, conservatives, christians, etc. Stereotype emphasizes the 'sameness' of the out-group. Why? Because it feels good. It's a pat explanation and justification for their anger. Some have misappropriated the concept of AWALT to mean 'All wimminz are the same!' when we know very well this is not true. Simple life experience illustrates to us that some women are in thrall to their instincts and others have largely overcome them. Some are selfish, some are giving. We notice differences across cultures. That's not to say some behaviors are more common in women no matter what but for us to insinuate that women are the same across the board, no matter the culture, no matter the era, is going too far. It is unanalytical feel-good mechanism that blinds us to the interplay between culture and behavior. It ignores a massive body of knowledge of cultural anthropology. The saddest thing about the argument is that encourages people to remain in total darkness of the actual effect of the social engineering of feminism. They have no comprehension about how feminism effects a psychological regression in women. They remain blissfully unaware of how feminist life scripts in the mainstream media orient female behavior towards entitlement and selfishness. I've met thousands of women, lived in different countries- women are not all the same. Their behavior is influenced by a multitude of factors: their family upbringing, their culture, their social circle.

Once you understand the principles of conditioning, which is part of what I do for a living, you understand that the human mind can be rewired. Your instincts can be changed. They are not cemented anywhere; everything in the mind is done through association and wires can be rewired. Advertisers do not spend millions dollars because "why not?". It's because they also understand how manipulable the human mind is and they pay for the privilege of rewiring the human mind. Ads make up around 1/3rd of programming; now imagine how much mindfucking you get from the programming itself, which is designed with certain social agendas. If we adhere to the notion that biology dictates our actions, we render ourselves totally blind to the nature of social engineering which is contributing to the dysfunction in the modern woman.

Originally Posted by BeijaFlor

To heck with an owner's manual. What Society needs is a repair manual.

This comment made me laugh.
LOUD!