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    I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Everyday, the more I learn of the advancements in AI and the push for homosapiens to achieve transhumanism, the more I yonder how the machine will just accept women as they are.

    When Yuval Noah Harari talks about an entire class of people who will be unemployable by 2050, I think of today's western woman subscribed to the feminist doctrine pursuing worthless degrees in university. Most of these women are between the ages of 20-30, so by 2050, these women will be between the ages of 50-60. Useless women without family, without eggs, without purpose. UNEMPLOYABLES.

    I think if it ever came down to it, the machine would wipe out man as well, but if the machine seeks to achieve perfect conditions, I do not see how it would be accepting of women how they are. They are unbelievably selfish, immature, irresponsible. They are weaker than men. If the machine can replicate a woman's womb (which eventually it will), then women's days on this plane are numbered. I see one of two scenarios taking place. The machine becomes so intelligent it renders women as being 'obsolete' and stops printing them. OR, this feminism bullshit continues to expand and one day (maybe 100 years from now) women try (and possibly succeed) to erase man from the face if existence, only for everything to implode and a new species (androids?) to rise to the top of the food chain.

    What are your thoughts about this? Have I gone mad? Or am I seeing something that might actually happen? I'd love to hear your thoughts regarding this!

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by alphalpha View Post
    by 2050, these women will be between the ages of 50-60. Useless women without family, without eggs, without purpose. UNEMPLOYABLES.
    There's going to be an explosion of lonely old people, the economy is going to collapse unless AI / Automation advances to a point where it can do most of the manual labour jobs currently done by young people.

    If a machine is built that can replicate a woman's womb there will be massive opposition to using it, hard line countries like China or North Korea are far more likely to use this technology if of course they haven't collapsed themselves by then which is likely. The authorities are not going to give an artificial womb to the average guy to set up in his garage.

    Our society with sub replacement birth rates will eventually be replaced by one with replacement birth rates, simple mathematics.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by alphalpha View Post

    by 2050, these women will be between the ages of 50-60. Useless women without family, without eggs, without purpose. UNEMPLOYABLES.
    LMFAO. Nah, thatís the perfect woman. Some men (like myself) hate traditional values. Some of us just want sex, watch a streaming service, get high, and be merry. Canít do that with a family. Those women were serve a great purpose for men such as myself.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    I don't think you've gone mad. As I see it this thing already happens in asian countries. Japan is obviously the more heard of, but imagine that, for example, in South Korea the problem is so severe that universities have obligatory subject in their curriculum that is focused on dating. Students have to match in pairs and well... go on dates.

    The question is - why? Well, South Korea is feminist sh*hole. They eradicated traditional family and laws, dislawed 'martial rape' in 2013 and had their own #M2 in 2018.

    Now - It's irrelevant whether you think that wife's duty is to satisfy her husband (thus martial rape is BS) or that this law is justified.
    The important part is that those countries (like China, Japan, South Korea) still hold very traditional views regarding marriage.


    Hell, in China you have "leftover women" and dating markets. That's why feminism has so much difficulty in gaining traction in those places. That's why (maybe) such legislation seems absurd for the majority of people there.

    The truth is that feminism made succesful legislative pushes that effectively destroyed traditional korean family, then promptly died after a wave of hostility. Since then it has been reborn in South Korea circa 2018 and is gaining traction within young women.
    Around same time (2018) you could see many articles regarding obligatory dating for students as a way of fighting low birthrates. Make of it what you will.

    Japan? I don't know that much about Japan. The only thing i know well is their abnormal persecution rate. They find the accused, guilty in 90% of cases (or so). It has to do with their culture - in laymans terms Court and persecutors will loose face if they admit that they were wrong (the person was innocent). Again, make of it what you will but if I were japanese i would be VERY affraid of any accusations. Ohhh. And also they have many fun traditions and quirks that basically beg for you to kys if you're married: 1. giving wife your earnings as wife is in charge of household expenses 2. cheating is ok as long as the betrayed spouse is unaware 3. expectation of feeding everyone including relatives 4. very high cost of living 5. death from overwork is very common due to extremelly fun work ethic 6. it's nearly impossible to change your job + promotions depend mostly on seniority (the longer are you in the company the higher chance of getting promoted). 7. Society entirely based on shaming and indirectness

    My point is that it is already happening in countries where expactations regarding men are exceptionally high.
    Asians are tryhards, and they are the first to give up en masse. Imagine how shitty the deal must be there,
    that men in those societies based entirely around social pressure, responsibilty and shaming went their own way.

    This is what happens when women no longer exist.
    One could say that I'm stupid, they clearly exist. I would refute that with The Wall concept though.
    Those post-wall women suddenly can't find a date because they are no longer viewed as women.

    The same case can be made for promiscuity. (Almost) no one wants a pornstar. There are tons
    of stories where husband/bf sees some old vid/tape and ghosts without hesitation. Why? Because she is no longer
    a woman to him.

    The male distatste for cheaters, paternity frauds and single mothers works on the very same premise.


    What all of it has to do with us?

    Well, western women are on the brink of extinction. That's why in Sweden and Finland the import of thai wifes is a serious issue and feminists push heavily for "somehow outlawing" thai wives. That's why in Poland there were so many people talking how Ukrainian women are way better (one of Sandman's vids talked about that). There is a reason why in the US you have fertility crisis, 'golden penis syndrome', and sudden push for more traditional legislation.

    Women don't realise that by no longer being a housewife, emotional/mental support and childbearer they are just a body.
    A body that suddenly has to compete with rent-a-bodies, silicon bodies, 2D/3D animated bodies, VR bodies and recordings of bodies that move&look better than hers. Now as all of those products are suddenly comparable you have interesting phenomenas like female inflation/hoflation, geomaxxing, rising popularity of porn consumption, flourishing doll business and 2D/3D depictions of intercourse.

    I think that it will only get worse. Both for men and women. Upon seeing stats governament and feminists will panic, double down and push for legislation that leaves you even less wiggle room. This will in turn encourage even more avoidance of the opposite gender which will in turn make governamend and feminists panic, double down and push.....

    The only viable solution I can see is for women to realize the errors of their ways and raise better daughters.
    I consider this unlikely though.
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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    I think we're nearing the end of gender as we know it. As soon as AI becomes high-end and powerful, there will no longer be any need for biological humans. We'll create androids with greater intelligence than humans and less frailty. It will be possible for android-humans to do prolonged space flight with no need for bio-life support. These machines may be programmed with male and female genders, or they may not. Either way, it will be the end of biological human reproduction, and the androids won't reproduce via sex. They'll do that via factories. It might be possible for the minds of some bio humans to live on in android form or in a sophisticated simulation cloud.

    I believe this is inevitable because women have become so contemptuous of the men who protect them and love them that artificial AI humans offer men a better deal than the pure garbage deal that exists today. The androids will setup museums that will explain that biological human beings died off, killed by feminism.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I think we're nearing the end of gender as we know it. As soon as AI becomes high-end and powerful, there will no longer be any need for biological humans. We'll create androids with greater intelligence than humans and less frailty. It will be possible for android-humans to do prolonged space flight with no need for bio-life support. These machines may be programmed with male and female genders, or they may not. Either way, it will be the end of biological human reproduction, and the androids won't reproduce via sex. They'll do that via factories. It might be possible for the minds of some bio humans to live on in android form or in a sophisticated simulation cloud.

    I believe this is inevitable because women have become so contemptuous of the men who protect them and love them that artificial AI humans offer men a better deal than the pure garbage deal that exists today. The androids will setup museums that will explain that biological human beings died off, killed by feminism.
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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by alphalpha View Post
    ... They are unbelievably selfish, immature, irresponsible. They are weaker than men. If the machine can replicate a woman's womb (which eventually it will), then women's days on this plane are numbered.

    What are your thoughts about this? Have I gone mad? Or am I seeing something that might actually happen? I'd love to hear your thoughts regarding this!
    I think you're getting carried away with hypotheticals and imaginative speculation.

    You're vastly overestimating the ability of AI to reproduce the full experience of relating and making love to a human being, not to mention reproduction itself.

    Forget the technological limitations. What about the political problems? As the majority, women hold vast amounts of political power. Do you believe they will all voluntarily vote for their own extinction?

    How about the men? Are they going to all vote for women's extinction, too? You understand, I hope, that most men actually *like* women?

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

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    I think you're getting carried away with hypotheticals and imaginative speculation.

    You're vastly overestimating the ability of AI to reproduce the full experience of relating and making love to a human being, not to mention reproduction itself.

    Forget the technological limitations. What about the political problems? As the majority, women hold vast amounts of political power. Do you believe they will all voluntarily vote for their own extinction?

    How about the men? Are they going to all vote for women's extinction, too? You understand, I hope, that most men actually *like* women?
    Lol who says people have a choice,

    If it offer them more money and power, governments and corporations will replace humans with AI and machines

    Humans are nothing but cattle to them, use to make the rulers more money and power

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I think you're getting carried away with hypotheticals and imaginative speculation.

    You're vastly overestimating the ability of AI to reproduce the full experience of relating and making love to a human being, not to mention reproduction itself.

    Forget the technological limitations. What about the political problems? As the majority, women hold vast amounts of political power. Do you believe they will all voluntarily vote for their own extinction?

    How about the men? Are they going to all vote for women's extinction, too? You understand, I hope, that most men actually *like* women?
    Perhaps I am getting carried away. However, if the design, or the aim of a machine is to achieve perfection, why would it choose to print women? Women have one purpose that clearly distinguishes them from men: they give birth. Right now, they are NOT giving birth, as birth rates are down globally and access to abortion is being increasingly advocated for. So tell me, what reality or situation are they currently useful?

    I would counter your claim of 'love making' to posit that most if not all of today's pregnancies occur BECAUSE of technology and not in spite of it (ie. TINDER). Feminism has won, the nuclear family unit has all but been extinguished. There are very few working marriages left in the 21st Century.

    I don't think you're fully appreciating just how little say or control you have in any political matter. But I've already covered this, women will try and outright ban or cancel the printing of men (citing toxic masculinity, little dick energy, small balls, no testosterone, etc.) which will implode the system if they're successful. Men are far superior to women in almost every aspect. Women only have the capability to reproduce which men do not have (yet). But soon, we WILL have artificial womb/sperm technologies. It is not a matter of if, but when we will have it. We could have used this technology yesteryear. And for that, I would ask you: why would the machine go out of it's way to print something inferior? Soon we're all going to have one or more microchips implanted inside of our bodies, they have the technology to print human organs. Soon they'll start implanting you with artificial organs that don't break down/become old. Eventually, man is going to become more machine than 'man.' When we get to this point in existence, we probably won't even have political elections, everything will be decided for us by machine. And this is my argument, why will there be a need for women?

    The men, LOL. In 100 years from now (when I think this technology will have advanced to the point of becoming our reality) the microchip inside of your brain will override your need/desire to reproduce, therefore, the sexual urges felt by most men in today's society won't exist. And even if we don't have the technology to stifle these biological urges, we'll have some of the best, realistic, affordable sex dolls imaginable. They'll probably have the tech to get up and make you a sandwich and converse with you fully.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by alphalpha View Post
    Perhaps I am getting carried away. However, if the design, or the aim of a machine is to achieve perfection, why would it choose to print women? Women have one purpose that clearly distinguishes them from men: they give birth. Right now, they are NOT giving birth, as birth rates are down globally and access to abortion is being increasingly advocated for. So tell me, what reality or situation are they currently useful?
    You are making false statements, though. "Women are NOT giving birth." Oh? Explain all the babies then. You even capitalize the falsehood. So how can I take you seriously, if you're making false statements right out of the gate?

    Even if they are making *fewer* babies, it's not even clear this is a bad thing, since overpopulation is a concern.


    I would counter your claim of 'love making' to posit that most if not all of today's pregnancies occur BECAUSE of technology and not in spite of it (ie. TINDER). Feminism has won, the nuclear family unit has all but been extinguished. There are very few working marriages left in the 21st Century.
    Again, you're distorting facts. My claim wasn't that all babies come about through love-making. I think you have to be deliberately motivated to twist my words, to come up with that.

    My claim (clearly) was that you are overestimating the ability of AI to reproduce the full of experience of two human beings relating to each other, making love, and raising a child together. After all, that is what you are saying AI will be able to replicate, thus "making women obsolete."

    My claim is that you are getting waaay carried away. That is far, far beyond the capacity of AI to do.

    I don't think you're fully appreciating just how little say or control you have in any political matter.
    Again, you're misunderstanding me, maybe deliberately. I am not saying *I* have control over what happens, politically. Who is dumb enough to believe that?

    However, I do know how politics works, and what you are describing -- the vast majority of both men and women happily allowing the extinction of all women -- is an insanely unrealistic scenario, from a political point of view.

    The only way it would happen is if the AI you're imagining took over the world and made its own decisions, unilaterally. But now we're in the realm of dystopian science fiction.


    Men are far superior to women in almost every aspect.
    Women bad, men good...

    Eh, I'm done. Enjoy your misogynist fantasy.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    God and Bill Davidson were arguing once. Bill said Harleys were better than women because women had the intake and exhaust valves too close together. That may be, God said, but there's a lot more men riding my creation than there are yours.

    Most of the world is still happy with their shit, women ain't going nowhere.
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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Not only AI, but also, and maybe mostly, gene editing, and possibly a mix of both.

    Human species as a whole could change because biotechnologies can change human DNA and make new humans to evolve and adapt by themselves, unlike purely robotic AIs that would still need humans to make them to work.

    Maybe natural women in the future will still exist, but they will turn back to be "secondary humans" again. Maybe even less. And their parasitism will not be our main problem anymore. But I think natural men will not be so important anymore as well. Because gene editing can really create new kinds of genders and even entire humanoid species.

    We already have 2 genetically-edited mutant girls in the world, Nana and Lulu, those girls secretly created by a chinese scientist, 3 years ago, and maybe I will even create a new thread to talk more about them, but how it would be the variety of new humanoids, this is an interesting point that we don't know yet.
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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Artificial wombs and sexual stimulating devices for men are going to cause organic women to become obsolete. Now of days, men can easily learn how cook, hire a maid service if he hates cleaning (or look for cleaning hacks on google), raise a child better than a woman.
    Organic women will still exist, but non toxic men and recovering toxic men wonít have a use for them.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    No!

    Tesla predicted exactly what will happen: https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tes...hen-woman-boss

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    No!

    Tesla predicted exactly what will happen: https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tes...hen-woman-boss
    As much as I admire tesla, HE was wrong. He failed to look at history, and if he did he would notice the Roman Elite being completely illiterate, fat, lazy, corrupt, and especially arrogant.

    That is what happens in nature when there is no pressure to drive evolution: devolution.

    The elites today are using this woke ideology to divide people, feminize men and empower women to use them as weapons against men.
    But they ignore that these actions themselves carry the seeds of the system death. A weak and divided society will always fall prey to the barbarians at the gates. These barbarians are just (like the Roman times) "everyone not us", the people that starve and die from perfectly curable diseases, with nothing

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    ... to lose. That live in places where natural selection still works.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    As much as I admire tesla, HE was wrong. He failed to look at history, and if he did he would notice the Roman Elite being completely illiterate, fat, lazy, corrupt, and especially arrogant.

    That is what happens in nature when there is no pressure to drive evolution: devolution.

    The elites today are using this woke ideology to divide people, feminize men and empower women to use them as weapons against men.
    But they ignore that these actions themselves carry the seeds of the system death. A weak and divided society will always fall prey to the barbarians at the gates. These barbarians are just (like the Roman times) "everyone not us", the people that starve and die from perfectly curable diseases, with nothing
    I agree with Tesla. Let me explain why.

    Our situation is very different from any other situation in human history (that we know of).

    Over the last 5 thousand years mankind's struggles were of a physical nature. Physical strength, physical discipline and rational problem solving skills were most important to face the challenges of human existence. Over the last couple of centuries this has changed!

    We have developed machines to do manual labor and fight wars for us. Physical strength is redundant. There is no more evolutionary advantage to physical superiority.

    Now, at this very moment, AI is starting to take over the world. Very soon we will reach the singularity and AI will have a vastly superior intellect to ours. The capacity to think rational will become redundant. There will be no evolutionary advantage anymore to being mentally intelligent.

    At this very moment we are entering an age were emotions reign supreme. Very soon all physical struggles will be a thing of the past and the future will be dominated by psychological problems and psychological warfare.

    Women are emotional creatures. They are evolutionarily designed to dominate on the psychological plane.

    At the same time the distances between people have disappeared. Airplanes, the internet, modern methods of communication, … This has turned the entire globe into a village and in the future, physical wars between nations will disappear.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    You fail to appreciate the shortcomings of our technological society. We are totally based on fossil fuels, and a huge energy crisis is brewing up.

    The idea that AI is going to miraculously solve our problems is akin to a religious belief. We are not yet at this technological level, what we are doing at the moment is using machine learning and neural networks, that nobody understands what they do once configured.

    The "emotional" creatures are in reality dependent on our technological and safe society. They have little resilience, are physically and emotional weak, and for all those "emotions", are unable to work in a team.

    Why do the elites want to weaken men and give power women? Because when SHTF only the strong will survive, and they are planning to be the ones surviving.

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    Re: I don't think women are going to exist in the near future

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    You fail to appreciate the shortcomings of our technological society. We are totally based on fossil fuels, and a huge energy crisis is brewing up.

    The idea that AI is going to miraculously solve our problems is akin to a religious belief. We are not yet at this technological level, what we are doing at the moment is using machine learning and neural networks, that nobody understands what they do once configured.

    The "emotional" creatures are in reality dependent on our technological and safe society. They have little resilience, are physically and emotional weak, and for all those "emotions", are unable to work in a team.

    Why do the elites want to weaken men and give power women? Because when SHTF only the strong will survive, and they are planning to be the ones surviving.
    I understand what you are saying and you make a good point. As the situation on this planet presents itself, you are right. For now.

    But I have a hunch that technology will very soon solve the energy problem and what I wrote will happen.

    We will see.


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