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    I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    I don't see any point in pretending I'm not disappointed. I had been working for a company via outsourcing for about 5 years. In other words, I wasn't actually employed by that company, but by a different one. However, I took the calls for that company that outsourced to us. People think outsourcing is only sending calls to India, but that's not true. You can outsource to another American company.

    Anyway, I've basically become an expert in that company that outsourced to us. I really know their stuff, and I even trained some of their people. I can also take calls in French if necessary. They get calls from customers in Quebec, some of which don't speak English very well. Instead of using an interpretation service (which costs them money), I was able to simply take those French calls and get their customer taken care of.

    So the company was moving to all in-house calls, no more outsourcing, and so I applied to work for them directly. It would have meant moving to another state, which I said I was willing to do. However, instead of going with me, who has a high level of expertise in their business, and who can do their French calls directly, they've preferred to go with rookies on the cheap who don't know jack and who they'll have to spend a shit ton of money on to train.

    Super frustrating. I was really looking forward to getting paid what I'm worth and starting over in a new city. I don't hate their guts or anything, but I do think they're missing out. I have a lot of pride in my work, and I don't settle for less than the best I can be.

    I'll have to move on and find someone else who will see my value and pay me what I'm worth. It's just frustrating because I thought this was going to work out. They're just putting rookie bodies in the chairs and hoping for the best.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Usually it's not that they don't want you, if you're working through another employment or contracting agencies to get jobs - the agencies tend to have clauses for their workers that require the company using the service to pay extra cash if they want to hire the current contract employee for their own payroll. Cheaper to just hire an outside applicant at that point.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I can also take calls in French if necessary. They get calls from customers in Quebec, some of which don't speak English very well. Instead of using an interpretation service (which costs them money), I was able to simply take those French calls and get their customer taken care of.
    They did not know they had a problem, because you took care of it for them. So, when you applied, they didn't know you were the solution to the problem.

    If you did not take those call in French, would the outsourcing company had known or found out that you could have?

    If they didn't and they realized they were losing business because they didn't have French speakers, when you applied, you could have been the solution to the problem.
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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk View Post
    Usually it's not that they don't want you, if you're working through another employment or contracting agencies to get jobs - the agencies tend to have clauses for their workers that require the company using the service to pay extra cash if they want to hire the current contract employee for their own payroll. Cheaper to just hire an outside applicant at that point.
    There was a clause like that, but my current employer was willing to waive it and let me move on. Those clauses are there so that a company doesn't just poach all of another company's employees. That's understandable, but this company has gotten 5 years worth of work from me, so it's not like they're cheated if I move on.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    They did not know they had a problem, because you took care of it for them. So, when you applied, they didn't know you were the solution to the problem.

    If you did not take those call in French, would the outsourcing company had known or found out that you could have?

    If they didn't and they realized they were losing business because they didn't have French speakers, when you applied, you could have been the solution to the problem.
    They knew about my French abilities. I even translated emails into French for them.

    I have no doubt I would have been a huge asset to this company, but I also know that things don't always work out how you had hoped. It's a bummer. I'll have to find someone else who will see that I'll provide high value for them.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Worked in the corporate world for decades. Budget trumped performance every time. Still does. This is why many support calls are answered by pseudo-AI robots now, or by offshore script-readers who not only know little to nothing but also can barely speak the caller's language. I went solo and haven't regretted it for one second, though it was a bit scary at first. I also know lots of people who are splitting their work part-time corporate and part-time independent.

    Another aspect to not getting the job: You may have dodged a bullet. A company that makes decisions this short-term and this stupid typically winds up being a crap place to work long-term. Maybe they did you a favor.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Welcome to my world. Every job I apply for goes nowhere except to someone else. Being autistic isn't easy to deal with in the job market, because I have to pass an application test (which you have to lie on to pass) and if I do, I might get an interview, which for me ends on the first of three. No job for me, as usual. So I know full well what it's like to apply for a job and getting shafted every time. It sucks!

    For me, I've only worked 3 small jobs: Volunteer doing holiday projects for a church; painting and basic labor for my stepfather's construction business; and election judge which is only once or twice a year. Even though my work experience is not where I wanted it to be at, I'm at least taking the experience I encountered from those past jobs and try to answer the interview questions.

    Things with my career and disability have been so tough, I have to live with my dad, getting disability pay (SSI) and trying to save up my money to either start an entrepreneurship or play the lottery. I have to face it, these employers made it clear they want nothing to do with me and the fact I'm not "normal."
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    I'm betting, hmm,, white male, prodigious gender studies top-of-the-class HR, new recruits selected based on their radical indoctrination, and corporate health being the last thing on the HR twats mind.

    When it doesn't make sense, you can bet it's a twat behind the scenes!

    Don't look down on the event, look at it as a challenge, and if they seek to get you back later, ask for more money by bluffing them and saying you're entertaining other offers.

    Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened, you'll do fine, MGHOWS always do! There's always better for those that give it more effort, and worse for those that don't!

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Im sorry bro. Its ok to have feelings. Most people would tell you to grow a pair but not me.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    they've preferred to go with rookies on the cheap who don't know jack and who they'll have to spend a shit ton of money on to train.
    And that'll pale in comparison to the absolute shit ton of money they have to spend when they call you to train them.

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Their not looking ahead much. By the time they get those rookies up to speed, they'll have wasted more money training them than it would of cost them to hire you. So your both going to lose in the end. My neighbor calls it "jumping over dollars to grab dimes." Too bad your the one holding the short end a the stick. Maybe if you didn't look like the lizard who tried to kill Captain Kirk you'd do better!
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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I'm betting, hmm,, white male, prodigious gender studies top-of-the-class HR, new recruits selected based on their radical indoctrination, and corporate health being the last thing on the HR twats mind.

    When it doesn't make sense, you can bet it's a twat behind the scenes!

    Don't look down on the event, look at it as a challenge, and if they seek to get you back later, ask for more money by bluffing them and saying you're entertaining other offers.

    Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened, you'll do fine, MGHOWS always do! There's always better for those that give it more effort, and worse for those that don't!

    A GO-GETTER has nothing in common with a NO-GETTER and it's not hard to tell who's who!
    I had wondered if that's behind it. I've considered changing my name to something like Tomahawk Chases Horses

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    Re: I didn't get the job I wanted -- feeling bummed

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I had wondered if that's behind it. I've considered changing my name to something like Tomahawk Chases Horses
    Or when they ask for Gender just write a huge "?" and see if it starts improving your chances!


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