Thread: I did'nt break it, so I refuse to fix it.

I would like to complete my thoughts about bitterness and anger:

I am indeed angry. Not so much about any level of success or failure with women or relationships, but that as this whole damn thing begins to come apart, the very men who could have made a difference are shamed and blamed for it's demise. Personally, I did not sire the legions of "Harley McBadboys" with all of the single mother's, whom now roam the streets causing pure mayhem by snatching purses, playing the knock-out game and knocking up the next generation of single mothers. I have no input to influence the piss-poor life choices that are made everyday by multiple generations of people who, with the help of big daddy govermnent get rewarded for some of the abhorent behaviour possible.

The same laws and institutions that tear fathers away from their children (especially male) are at the heart of this putrid mess. They finance and co-sign and in many cases protect the most debased and gutteral activity ever seen. And then when the stench becomes so un-bearable, they have the audacity to call all of the men who behave in a responsable manner to account! Never the women claiming indepednace. Never the improperly raised child of the independant women. Never the institutions and legislative body who helped create this crap.

No, the problem lies with men. Had we had just been better husbands, had we just been better providers, had we just jumped through a few more hoops....HELL, if we would just "man-up" and marry this over abundance of high mileage, used up baby-momma's all would be well. Ignore that meat grinder called divorce court, and do our societal duty! I am indeed angry as we are bombarded with all manner of images clearly aimed at denegrating masculinity and imposing feminine traits and thought processes.


I am indeed angry as institutions rob men of wealth that took them a lifetime to accumulate, just to surrender it to whom ever they deem worthy. I am indeed angry that any time a woman makes a decision to venture into places that even cops avoid and gets attacked, the solution is that random men are expected to sacrifice themselves for said woman.

In closing....I am going my own way! I did'nt cause this train wreck, had no hand in writing the laws, and have never assaulted a woman neither verbally or physically. I don't give a damn and society.......you will NOT lay this pile of **** on my door step or conscious.

Absolutely.

Looking at the progress of the MRAs and their attempts to 'fix it', you should change the thread title to: They broke it. I can't and won't fix it.

MGTOW, the only way of life that seems to have a 100% success rate to a man's happiness.

Whats happening to our civilization is the social equivalent of a car hitting black ice and sliding into a ditch.

It would be easy to blame females, but that's not a logical action. Girls do what girls do, and ancient man knew the negative tendencies of women well enough to structure early societies to avoid the pitfalls we see now.Given that women today do the same shit the Old Testament chicks did, we can conclude female nature is relatively predictable and constant.

Blaming men isn't a good course either, as men cannot be held responsible for knowledge they're ignorant of. How can men know the truth when their parents, their bosses, their schools, their friends, and their families perpetuate lies?

No, there is no one culprit we can tag and claim definitely bears responsibility. The vehicle has left the road, the ditch awaits, and the only comfot we can take is that we couldn't prevent the wreck from happening. All that is left for us is to await impact.

Thanks for your input and exchange of ideas. I can somewhat agree with what you say. However, I insist that the final impact into the ditch would not be nearly as destructive if society did not virtually remove all accountability from chosen members of our society, in lieu of obtaining expanded power via voting blocks or lobbying clout for themselves. This is where I can clearly observe that seats of power have granted extra "driving priviledges" to groups with no regard to anyone else in the car.


Those decisions and actions determined who drove the car, rate of speed, etc. If I am interpreting your example correctly, your car had every intention of a safe arrival but had the unfortunate luck of the ice patch. Our car was driven this way with full knowledge of the ditch and subsequent injury to society as a whole. It made no difference though because all that matered to the driver or drivers was their own agenda.

Again - reminds me of the B5 Rangers... we're the one crowd looking on from the outside...

Originally Posted by Ike3

I would like to complete my thoughts about bitterness and anger:

I am indeed angry. Not so much about any level of success or failure with women or relationships, but that as this whole damn thing begins to come apart, the very men who could have made a difference are shamed and blamed for it's demise. Personally, I did not sire the legions of "Harley McBadboys" with all of the single mother's, whom now roam the streets causing pure mayhem by snatching purses, playing the knock-out game and knocking up the next generation of single mothers. I have no input to influence the piss-poor life choices that are made everyday by multiple generations of people who, with the help of big daddy govermnent get rewarded for some of the abhorent behaviour possible.

The same laws and institutions that tear fathers away from their children (especially male) are at the heart of this putrid mess. They finance and co-sign and in many cases protect the most debased and gutteral activity ever seen. And then when the stench becomes so un-bearable, they have the audacity to call all of the men who behave in a responsable manner to account! Never the women claiming indepednace. Never the improperly raised child of the independant women. Never the institutions and legislative body who helped create this crap.

No, the problem lies with men. Had we had just been better husbands, had we just been better providers, had we just jumped through a few more hoops....HELL, if we would just "man-up" and marry this over abundance of high mileage, used up baby-momma's all would be well. Ignore that meat grinder called divorce court, and do our societal duty! I am indeed angry as we are bombarded with all manner of images clearly aimed at denegrating masculinity and imposing feminine traits and thought processes.


I am indeed angry as institutions rob men of wealth that took them a lifetime to accumulate, just to surrender it to whom ever they deem worthy. I am indeed angry that any time a woman makes a decision to venture into places that even cops avoid and gets attacked, the solution is that random men are expected to sacrifice themselves for said woman.

In closing....I am going my own way! I did'nt cause this train wreck, had no hand in writing the laws, and have never assaulted a woman neither verbally or physically. I don't give a damn and society.......you will NOT lay this pile of **** on my door step or conscious.

Very well said.

All we can do is Ride the Tiger.

I believe we can make a difference, just not overnight. Not even in years. No, we must accept that society will get worse before it gets better. When it does indeed get better, that is when we make the move to secure a solid future for ourselves and our fellow man. Until then, GYOW. Either accelerate the collapse by pumping and dumping, going all out hedonistic or embrace a moral ground to abstain from the destructive actions that lead us here.