Thread: Hulk Hogans divorce nightmare

Hulk Hogan, a wrestling icon and well known even outside of the wrestling-circus got divorced...that is....his wife divorced him. She had an affair with a much younger guy right after she left Hogan and he has to pay her most of HIS money. Money he earned by destroying and abusing his body. Even men who are seen as the ultimate macho-men, physically and mentally strong, successful and wealthy, run the risk to lose everything, just because the wife isn´t happy. Hey lurkers, if this can happen to Hulk Hogan, do you really think this couldn´t happen to you? Think again!

This has made me think that for all the advantages male biology has, there are a few self-defeating tendencies we have - the most significant of which is that "to be a man, you have to 'man up' at some time and raise a family". There are others (ie: being "too stoic" and the consequences). With MGTOW, we have an opportunity to rewrite the rules on this just as Herbivores have looked to buck the rules in Japan on male fealty to the State and women. In Hogan's case, he had wealth, he had fame, the adulation of so many- but somehow he perhaps viewed his life as 'incomplete' without a woman. It's this psychosis that society has installed in us- and it's a false program. I'll say it a million times- being single is not a problem to solve.

The more we can get single people, bachelors, MGTOWs, and whatever else we call ourselves by to be perfectly happy with our independent lifestyle, to be proud of our identity, the stronger we will be.

Someone should give him a link to this forum so that he doesn't repeat the mistake of getting married.

I'll say it a million times- being single is not a problem to solve.

And I'll repeat it!

Originally Posted by cyberdude

Someone should give him a link to this forum so that he doesn't repeat the mistake of getting married.

Too late, he's already re-married. It's hard to feel sympathy for someone that stupid.

I am that stupid too. I still thiink that every man deserves some empathy if not sympathy.

The interesting thing is that this guys get re-married and re-married all the time (yes thats how deep the brainwashing goes)
Imagine you had 50.000.000$ and you chose to enter some business contract where chances are 50:50 you are going to be cheated and loose 25.000.000.
What sane person on planet fucking earth would get into that sort of contract!
But they will (again thats how deep the brainwashing goes)

Prenup? naaah i dont need that...its not romantic and im chuck fuckin norris.
Yea right wait till "miss rights" lawyer sends you the papers. Ridicolous & stupid.

Originally Posted by livas

The interesting thing is that this guys get re-married and re-married all the time (yes thats how deep the brainwashing goes)
Imagine you had 50.000.000$ and you chose to enter some business contract where chances are 50:50 you are going to be cheated and loose 25.000.000.
What sane person on planet fucking earth would get into that sort of contract!
But they will (again thats how deep the brainwashing goes)

Prenup? naaah i dont need that...its not romantic and im chuck fuckin norris.
Yea right wait till "miss rights" lawyer sends you the papers. Ridicolous & stupid.

Next time around (if there is a next time), I'm doing a prenup. Gentlemen, mark my words (because I learned the hard way) and listen well. Marriage can be a war. And when it it, it's asymmetrical warfare. The opening salvo is when she lands you and lulls you into a false sense of security. Men don't consider this warfare, but it is. The honeymoon period is when she's solidifying her position. By the time she starts openly fighting, the man has no idea what's going on, because he doesn't realize it's war.

Gentlemen, you need to plan for the worst ANY time you consider a long-term substantial relationship with a woman. Get a pre-nup, but that is the least of it. Watch her while you're dating. Watch for ANY kind of duplicity. See if she can keep a job (my wife never stayed at a job more than a year. THAT WAS A CLUE, and I missed it). If you do decide to co-mingle your lives, don't transfer anything to her name. Keep the originals of all your important documents somewhere safe (marriage license, prenup, kids' birth certificates/social security cards, etc.) If you have a joint account, never keep more than she'd need to pay the monthly household bills in it, and keep a separate account in your own name. Be prepared to walk away the moment she asks for a divorce. Be proactive. Know what you're going to say. If she says "we need a break" tell her "great, I'll drive you to stay with your mother. The kids will stay with me while you work through whatever the problem is." When she's safely away, file for divorce.

If Hulk Hogan can be cleaned out (he can afford a good lawyer), you can. I did not get cleaned out in my divorce. It comes down to preparation and a sense of purpose. Most men aren't even aware there's a problem until it's too late.

Women are ambush predators. If you arrange it so you can ambush the ambusher, you're ahead of the game.

Originally Posted by jagrmeister

This has made me think that for all the advantages male biology has, there are a few self-defeating tendencies we have - the most significant of which is that "to be a man, you have to 'man up' at some time and raise a family".

Is that truly a male self-defeating tendency, and not a lie propagated by those who want men to have children -- namely, women? Most men I've met would have been childless out of their own volition, if their girlfriends and wives and even mothers hadn't pushed them. It's simply more shaming. "You are not a true man if you don't have a family." You can put it with "You're so cold, thinking ahead like that! Why don't you follow your heart?", and all the other "Real men do x or y" remarks.

Women I've met naturally feel their lives are somewhat worthless without a man; but men can usually manage on their own.

Originally Posted by Ancient Sunlight

Is that truly a male self-defeating tendency, and not a lie propagated by those who want men to have children -- namely, women? Most men I've met would have been childless out of their own volition, if their girlfriends and wives and even mothers hadn't pushed them. It's simply more shaming. "You are not a true man if you don't have a family." You can put it with "You're so cold, thinking ahead like that! Why don't you follow your heart?", and all the other "Real men do x or y" remarks.

Women I've met naturally feel their lives are somewhat worthless without a man; but men can usually manage on their own.

Personally, I like having children, and a son I can pass on man-knowledge to. And I wanted children.

Originally Posted by William Noy

Next time around (if there is a next time), I'm doing a prenup.

Marriage can be a war.

you need to plan for the worst ANY time you consider a long-term substantial relationship with a woman. Get a pre-nup,

Marriage is war. Women can call in the state for reinforcement on their side easily. Men, not so much.

Not sure where you are located, but even so-called rock solid pre-nups can get thrown out for the flimsiest of circumstances. The bias in courts is positive toward women and negative toward men. Many judges will simply decide that all or parts of the pre-nup are invalid and void and if asked why, they will harshly make it clear of the only reason they need is 'because they say so'. This is family/divorce court. Due process is not needed or wanted.

Battle? Warfare? Get married or live with a woman and wait for her to call the cops and haul you out of your own dwelling. Find out too late that you're responsible for paying rent/mortgage on a dwelling you can't even return to. Find out how quickly your stuff gets pillaged, or dumped.

I may meet some rare specimen of woman that seems 'perfect' to me, but I will not hand over the future control and quality of my life to someone who can ruin me at any time all based on whim, boredom, or general unhappiness because I didn't do one thing right in her opinion.

I'm not going to be told I have to pay someone for years, or forever because we were married for ever how long. Alimony is delayed payment prostitution endorsed by the state. I'm not going to open my life to a woman's crazy friends and family expecting me to do things for them and being mad when I can not or will not. I damn well am not going to be with someone who expects me to raise their kid(s) (say no to single mothers), be liable for child support, and have to deal with a kid that likely will see me as an adversary, as well as dealing with the actual bio parent and their family/friends.

Next time? I can definitely say that there will not be a 'next time' for me. Marry again? I'd rather play Russian Roulette with all chambers loaded.

And remember all the good time with comments and conversations like these...

Why did you buy that? We need this. Oh that is so cute. Your place needs more color. I got you this. What are we doing for X holiday? I was invited to a party, are you coming with me? Do you like my friends? Are you having a good time? I want you to meet more of my friends. When are you going to introduce me to your friends. I think you should meet my parents. My best friend hates you. I don't like your friends. I think so-and-so is a bad influence. Do we have to have them over again? Why are you playing a game? Did you take the trash out? Honey, not now, I'm tired. I have a headache. I am so bloated. Do you love me? You're not going out of town with your friends are you? I'll be so lonely without you. Yes, I know you didn't go with your friends, but this is just a girls night. We're together like all the time. You should go do something, just not with any friends I don't like. Those are off limits.

No, leave me alone. No I'm fine. I know I've been upset for a few days. I was late and I thought I was pregnant. I cried when I wasn't. I never thought of having a baby like this before. Where do you think this relationship is going? We should move in together it will save money too and we'll have more for us. If we're going to live together, I need more space for my stuff too. Unless you're not serious about our relationship. I hate that picture. I can't believe you still have this furniture. I have always hated it. You've got no tastes for decoration. You should pack this other stuff up. I packed this stuff up for you. That packed up stuff is taking up space. You should sell it. Or dump it.

I think I'm late. Yes, I have been taking my pills, but I'm late, it's probably stress. I'm pregnant. I don't know, it happened. What are you going to do about it? For the last time, yes, I always took my birth control. The doctor said that antibiotic I took might have messed it up. Yes, he warned me, but we've not been using protection for so long, I didn't worry about it. We both hate condoms anyway. Don't you love me? Yes of course it is yours. Why are you acting like you don't trust me. Well my friends got engaged, and they weren't even pregnant.

We're going to need a bigger place. We can't raise a baby in a place this small. You need a better job. With both of us working, we'll be fine. I don't feel like going back to work yet. I think I need to stay home with the baby. We'll cut back on some things, we can do it. We need a new car. I know I'm not working, but my car isn't running and I can't be stuck at home all day. I hate being home all day. You go to work, you see people.

You're keeping me stuck at home. You don;t love me. All the baby does is cry all day. Yeah, I know you're working, but at least you get out of the house sometime. You never take me anywhere. I know we can't afford a babysitter, but what about my needs? Don't touch me. No, I'm tired. I'm sick. I feel gross. You never want to be with me anymore. How do you think it makes me feel to be rejected by you like that? You were rejected? You felt what? Oh please, that's not even the same thing.

I'm looking for a job. And we need that new car if I am going to work. Yes, ok, I know most of what I earn just pays the daycare. I like not having to stay at home. God I hate my job. Are you trying to be funny? going to work is not socializing. Does everything have to be about you? Maybe I said that before, but you try being stuck at home all day. I think I am going to quit my job. Well, it's better than going to work all the time. I'll figure something out. I think the baby should be in daycare a few days a week so I can do errands easier. Why are you complaining?

Why don't we have any money. OK, I know I agreed to work, and that's why we could afford daycare and a new car, but stop it. Well, work didn't work out well. I don;t know why you let me do that anyway. What were you thinking? Daycare? It's good for the baby and gives me free time too. We need to talk...

Originally Posted by Demosthenes

but even so-called rock solid pre-nups can get thrown out for the flimsiest of circumstances.

Yep. Notice I didn't say "that'll do the trick." No matter how good your lawyer is, laying the groundwork is up to YOU. And if the groundwork isn't laid, there's nothing your lawyer can do. You will get steamrolled.

In my case, I had the "villains are stupid" rule working for me. If I didn't, if my ex-wife had been as smart as she pretended to be when we got together, I might be telling a very different story (One thing I never understood is how could a woman, able to keep up a good-girl act for two years, be so undisciplined at executing a pro-female divorce strategy?).

However, I'm hopeful that, since SO many female behaviours are so similar from one relationship to another, at least some of my experiences and how I dealt with them can be helpful.

Originally Posted by Demosthenes

Battle? Warfare? Get married or live with a woman and wait for her to call the cops and haul you out of your own dwelling. Find out too late that you're responsible for paying rent/mortgage on a dwelling you can't even return to. Find out how quickly your stuff gets pillaged, or dumped.

Yeah. I dodged that bullet, but I was fully expecting it. Also, I found out indirectly from two different people that the cops in my jurisdiction won't actually do that unless there is evidence of physical trauma to one of the parties involved. In one instance, the girl who called the cops got arrested because she'd scratched her husband. Since my ex-wife knew about it (as it was her friend), that's probably why she never went through with it. She has some kind of phobia of being handcuffed.

And I think guys who are arrested on a false DV accusation who are later released due to lack of evidence have a case for civil damages against the person making the accusation.

I have a feeling he'll soon be changing his name to Sulk Hogan.

These comments posted by Demosthenes are all any man should need to see

Why did you buy that? We need this. Oh that is so cute. Your place needs more color. I got you this. What are we doing for X holiday? I was invited to a party, are you coming with me? Do you like my friends? Are you having a good time? I want you to meet more of my friends. When are you going to introduce me to your friends. I think you should meet my parents. My best friend hates you. I don't like your friends. I think so-and-so is a bad influence. Do we have to have them over again? Why are you playing a game? Did you take the trash out? Honey, not now, I'm tired. I have a headache. I am so bloated. Do you love me? You're not going out of town with your friends are you? I'll be so lonely without you. Yes, I know you didn't go with your friends, but this is just a girls night. We're together like all the time. You should go do something, just not with any friends I don't like. Those are off limits.


No, leave me alone. No I'm fine. I know I've been upset for a few days. I was late and I thought I was pregnant. I cried when I wasn't. I never thought of having a baby like this before. Where do you think this relationship is going? We should move in together it will save money too and we'll have more for us. If we're going to live together, I need more space for my stuff too. Unless you're not serious about our relationship. I hate that picture. I can't believe you still have this furniture. I have always hated it. You've got no tastes for decoration. You should pack this other stuff up. I packed this stuff up for you. That packed up stuff is taking up space. You should sell it. Or dump it.


I think I'm late. Yes, I have been taking my pills, but I'm late, it's probably stress. I'm pregnant. I don't know, it happened. What are you going to do about it? For the last time, yes, I always took my birth control. The doctor said that antibiotic I took might have messed it up. Yes, he warned me, but we've not been using protection for so long, I didn't worry about it. We both hate condoms anyway. Don't you love me? Yes of course it is yours. Why are you acting like you don't trust me. Well my friends got engaged, and they weren't even pregnant.


We're going to need a bigger place. We can't raise a baby in a place this small. You need a better job. With both of us working, we'll be fine. I don't feel like going back to work yet. I think I need to stay home with the baby. We'll cut back on some things, we can do it. We need a new car. I know I'm not working, but my car isn't running and I can't be stuck at home all day. I hate being home all day. You go to work, you see people.


You're keeping me stuck at home. You don;t love me. All the baby does is cry all day. Yeah, I know you're working, but at least you get out of the house sometime. You never take me anywhere. I know we can't afford a babysitter, but what about my needs? Don't touch me. No, I'm tired. I'm sick. I feel gross. You never want to be with me anymore. How do you think it makes me feel to be rejected by you like that? You were rejected? You felt what? Oh please, that's not even the same thing.


I'm looking for a job. And we need that new car if I am going to work. Yes, ok, I know most of what I earn just pays the daycare. I like not having to stay at home. God I hate my job. Are you trying to be funny? going to work is not socializing. Does everything have to be about you? Maybe I said that before, but you try being stuck at home all day. I think I am going to quit my job. Well, it's better than going to work all the time. I'll figure something out. I think the baby should be in daycare a few days a week so I can do errands easier. Why are you complaining?


Why don't we have any money. OK, I know I agreed to work, and that's why we could afford daycare and a new car, but stop it. Well, work didn't work out well. I don;t know why you let me do that anyway. What were you thinking? Daycare? It's good for the baby and gives me free time too. We need to talk...

screw that shit I will sit in my recliner with a cold beer watching sports, who in the right mind wants to listen to a twat spew that shit.

Yes reading those endless quotes from the female hive-mind was enough to scare the flu I'm currently fighting right out of my body and into the top corner of the room cowering in terror.

"You hear that Mr Anderson? That is the sound of silence, of me never, ever having to hear such twisted insane bullshit from some soulless harpy for the rest of eternity!"

Absolutely one of the worst divorces I've ever seen. Hogan's ex wife did him so wrong. It was painful to watch. For someone like Hogan, who was a hero to so many, do get treated so badly by his useless ex-wife really made me feel sorry for him. He seemed like a devoted father too, so for her to humiliate him in front of his own children like that, just makes you want to spit in her face.
I can't fathom why he would ever consider getting married again after such a horrible fallout from his first marriage. I guess he just got lonely.

Originally Posted by Demosthenes

Marriage is war. Women can call in the state for reinforcement on their side easily. Men, not so much.

Not sure where you are located, but even so-called rock solid pre-nups can get thrown out for the flimsiest of circumstances. The bias in courts is positive toward women and negative toward men. Many judges will simply decide that all or parts of the pre-nup are invalid and void and if asked why, they will harshly make it clear of the only reason they need is 'because they say so'. This is family/divorce court. Due process is not needed or wanted.

Battle? Warfare? Get married or live with a woman and wait for her to call the cops and haul you out of your own dwelling. Find out too late that you're responsible for paying rent/mortgage on a dwelling you can't even return to. Find out how quickly your stuff gets pillaged, or dumped.

I may meet some rare specimen of woman that seems 'perfect' to me, but I will not hand over the future control and quality of my life to someone who can ruin me at any time all based on whim, boredom, or general unhappiness because I didn't do one thing right in her opinion.

I'm not going to be told I have to pay someone for years, or forever because we were married for ever how long. Alimony is delayed payment prostitution endorsed by the state. I'm not going to open my life to a woman's crazy friends and family expecting me to do things for them and being mad when I can not or will not. I damn well am not going to be with someone who expects me to raise their kid(s) (say no to single mothers), be liable for child support, and have to deal with a kid that likely will see me as an adversary, as well as dealing with the actual bio parent and their family/friends.

Next time? I can definitely say that there will not be a 'next time' for me. Marry again? I'd rather play Russian Roulette with all chambers loaded.

And remember all the good time with comments and conversations like these...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!

Karma!

Sugar mama Linda Hogan is being sued by ex-boy toy Charlie Hill for $1.5 million for the menial labour she made him do | Mail Online

Originally Posted by Rodney

I can't fathom why he would ever consider getting married again after such a horrible fallout from his first marriage. I guess he just got lonely.

never underestimate the power of pussy

Originally Posted by Demosthenes

Marriage is war. Women can call in the state for reinforcement on their side easily. Men, not so much.

Not sure where you are located, but even so-called rock solid pre-nups can get thrown out for the flimsiest of circumstances. The bias in courts is positive toward women and negative toward men. Many judges will simply decide that all or parts of the pre-nup are invalid and void and if asked why, they will harshly make it clear of the only reason they need is 'because they say so'. This is family/divorce court. Due process is not needed or wanted.

Battle? Warfare? Get married or live with a woman and wait for her to call the cops and haul you out of your own dwelling. Find out too late that you're responsible for paying rent/mortgage on a dwelling you can't even return to. Find out how quickly your stuff gets pillaged, or dumped.

I may meet some rare specimen of woman that seems 'perfect' to me, but I will not hand over the future control and quality of my life to someone who can ruin me at any time all based on whim, boredom, or general unhappiness because I didn't do one thing right in her opinion.

I'm not going to be told I have to pay someone for years, or forever because we were married for ever how long. Alimony is delayed payment prostitution endorsed by the state. I'm not going to open my life to a woman's crazy friends and family expecting me to do things for them and being mad when I can not or will not. I damn well am not going to be with someone who expects me to raise their kid(s) (say no to single mothers), be liable for child support, and have to deal with a kid that likely will see me as an adversary, as well as dealing with the actual bio parent and their family/friends.

Next time? I can definitely say that there will not be a 'next time' for me. Marry again? I'd rather play Russian Roulette with all chambers loaded.

And remember all the good time with comments and conversations like these...

I dodged the children bullet, but a lot of this stuff still resonates with me.

Thing is, being a bachelor, one doesn't have to swear off women. There are a few rules, however, that should be followed:-

Never marry them.

Never move in with them.

Always use condoms that you supplied and dispose of them personally, after the act.

If they don't like these rules, they don't have your best interests in mind - make no mistake - they plan to enslave you.