Thread: How to convince incels to not be incels?

I spend my leisure time hunting for incels on 4chan to chat with. I try to get them to see reason, but they are so adamant on thinking that their entire life fixates around pussy.
I will show one example below

I am trying to learn the art of making arguments and convincing people to see things my way, you know, for fun. How to do it?
To be honest, when he replies to me and tells me that pussy is his #1 priority, and not just that, he has to get pussy in the exact way he wants (he wants a woman to beg him to fuck her) I don't even know what to say. Like, if you want pussy so bad, hire a hooker right?

If what it TAKES*
I realized that I am not really good at convincing people of my viewpoints. I've never managed to change the mind of one incel and I've been trying to red pill them for months.

Interesting question. I too, from time-to-time, read INCEL forums. It's pretty shocking how absorbed they are with women. Having said that however, I've never had issues getting pussy, so there's probably a lot I don't understand about their mindset and mental health issues. Even though they'd probably hate me for it, I do feel compassion for them.

They are right about one thing: INCELs, largely through no fault of their own, are the most disposable, detested, rejected, openly hated, openly discriminated against, openly oppressed, openly marginalized people in the western world. INCELs are the new *igger*.

What's really astounding is how openly they're disparaged by those that hold themselves out as paragons of virtue and enemies of bullying. In a way, INCELs have exposed the hypocrisy, double standards and self-contradictions of such two-faced, evil, bullying, malevolent, hateful monsters.

This is a MGTOW site, not a psychoanalyze incel site. Two posts and I already wanna blow my fkn head off!

Also, the idea that you're a loser if you don't "have a woman" is just a marketing/advertising/shaming tactic used to mentally corral men into "manning up" and enslaving themselves willingly to women and their state pimps/violence proxy, a psyop for which INCELs seem uniquely designed to suffer without hope of redemption.

EDIT: For the time being, they want men to walk into such traps willingly. However, if Compulsory Conjugality successfully works its way into family law, which seems to be the new goal of our abusers, then there will no longer be any disguising that marriage is a state sponsored and supported, deep-fake, highly camouflaged, well obfuscated prostitution ring - with the state of course continuing with their role of pimp and violence proxy.

Why convince incels not to be incels? Now that women don't "need" men directly to survive, they are going back to their base programming - mating with the top guys and seeing the rest as invisible/a threat to her precious eggs.

Incels are everywhere in the rest of the world, who do you think jihadis are? Japanese hikikomori? All the angry indian manlets? It is the natural state of things. Without men working as a collective to share the pussy and burden of maintaining civilization, everything regresses to the baseline.

Civilization is doomed, the reset is needed to cull the herd and refocus our minds and mating preferences for survival of the fittest. Too many weak men reproducing and too many fit men dying has resulted in our current predicament, among other things.

Originally Posted by Ithoughtshewas18ohms

Why convince incels not to be incels? Now that women don't "need" men directly to survive, they are going back to their base programming - mating with the top guys and seeing the rest as invisible/a threat to her precious eggs.

Incels are everywhere in the rest of the world, who do you think jihadis are? Japanese hikikomori? All the angry indian manlets? It is the natural state of things. Without men working as a collective to share the pussy and burden of maintaining civilization, everything regresses to the baseline.

Civilization is doomed, the reset is needed to cull the herd and refocus our minds and mating preferences for survival of the fittest. Too many weak men reproducing and too many fit men dying has resulted in our current predicament, among other things.

The only problem I have with this quote is that women never did need men to survive. That's one of the biggest lies we're sold. Society simply tagged men as 'providers & protectors' due to gynocentrism. The male-only draft and 'men last in the life boats' are the standard of those times. Women themselves held themselves out as too week to take on the tougher masculine roles of the past - as they still do even today. There are no feminists in fox holes or coal mines. While work was life shortening, life threatening, sheer drudgery and required lots of manual labor, all resulting in many deaths and disabilities, women saw it fit to remain housewives. However, when work became easier, safer, more lucrative, mussed hair free and broken nail proof, only then did women demand equal representation in the work force.

So you see, women weren't the oppressed. It follows that women didn't need men to survive - but rather used and exploited men as their personal ATMs, disposable human shields and disposable human sacrifices for their own self-interest, personal gain and personal benefit. The state pimps/violence proxies do the same with deferments.

MGTOW is so heavily banned and censored specifically to maintain this highly anti-male status quo.

As the incel said, it's not about sex. If it was about sex they could solve it.

There's different types of incels. The ugly ones I get and have sympathy for. It's no fault of there own.

Then there's the Harry Potty kind like your incel. They want unicorns and fairies and things that don't exist, because their entire autistic brains are set to fantasy land mode and unable to handle reality.

The HP incels are the worst. There is no solving their problem. Their entire knowledge of women is TV shows and movies. And porn.

No woman can ever exist that would satisfy them unless it was an anime chick, ie, the invented perfect kitty-waifu that has zero reality.

Originally Posted by 4lyfeman

I am trying to learn the art of making arguments and convincing people to see things my way, you know, for fun. How to do it?

Convincing people to "see it your way"?

If only there was world peace!

Carry on so long as it remains fun for you, but you have to know you're on a beaten docket. You may as well try to convince the poor that they are rich.

Oh wait, there are many that seem to subscribe to this nonsense so go forth my friend. Let us know how you get on.

I don't believe in incels. I've met plenty of women who irrefutably prove that a retard is capable of being fucked many, MANY times.

All it takes is for some of these so-called 'virgins' to log off of whatever shitty website they're on and hit up backpage.com and look for an escort.

Don't be waste your time. Their minds are already made up. You can show all the facts you want but its no use. I stopped caring what others think even if it means they die. I am no threat to myself or anyone. What I mean is if I tell you the bridge is out and you defy me then oh fucking well will be my response when I hear about how they drove off the bridge.

Our programming from the tens/hundreds of thousands of years pre civilization is MUCH stronger and base than our last 5k years worth of adaptations.

Women and childrenup until modernity needed men to survive. It's only through the exploitation of mens excess labour and taxes that this circus can keep going.

Hey I admit it, I was being blue pilled. She left, no more blue pill. Woke the fuck up.


Women are snakes.


Incels, well, You can take a horse to water, but if "it" dosent want to drink, then dont give a shit about the horse.


My whole 20s revolved around one vagina. A glorified: cum dumpster, snake, societal parasite ect...



I'm going to not look at the "ground"(time wasted), I'm going to look at the "sky"(the future).
Not going to have kids. Dont want kids. The goverment can make their own kids.


Actually im going fishing, this saturday. Trout, salt, lemon, and garlic. No complaints.

Why bother? Sounds like a fools errand to me. It's like when the Jehovas Witness used to come knocking on my door when I lived in town, I didn't want to hear it. The same thing - you're trying to convert someone who doesn't want to be converted Bro.

I've been fielding incoming interest from the opposite sex since I was 12 years old*. If it wasn't for Reddit, I might not have ever learned how unusual my circumstances are. My life experiences make it difficult to relate to incels.

The problem with incels is that they're BP on some level or another. And perhaps incurably so. They see women, relationships, sex and all that shit as akin to the Holy Grail. For them, they've never experienced the novelty of a woman looking into their eyes and saying "Let's go someplace else and fuck". The sheer fantasy of that stuff is something they've carried with them their whole lives. At this point, they've built it up in their imaginations so much that I doubt they'd experience genuine pleasure if their fantasy ever came true.

Even so, they see women in general and sex in particular as the answer to all their problems.

Now, we can all laugh at that. But I have to wonder how different my perspective would be if I'd slept with just a few less women or had just a few less failed relationships or whatever. Would I be just as pussy-crazed as the incels are? I very well might be.

Ultimately, my view is that some men (many of whom are incels) can't be helped. And "helping" men isn't my job anyway. I look out for #1. But I do feel a bit of sympathy for the incel community. They're confused and still largely bought into the idea of the American Dream, settling down with a trad wife and all that other shit. Many of them will probably never understand that the only love that matters and endures is the love and respect you have for yourself ahead of everybody else.

* For the record, I'm not even remotely a model type in terms of looks. Nor did I come from a rich background as a kid. I guess it was a personality thing because the female of the species has always been attracted to me. But it's not like I was drowning in pussy or anything. All I'm saying is that I've never lacked the company of women when I wanted it.

Originally Posted by alphalpha

I don't believe in incels. I've met plenty of women who irrefutably prove that a retard is capable of being fucked many, MANY times.

All it takes is for some of these so-called 'virgins' to log off of whatever shitty website they're on and hit up backpage.com and look for an escort.

I do.

I believe that there are those out there that have never and will never experience the act of sex for a variety of reasons.

Here's a thought though:

Those that post so-called Incel views are able enough to figure out how to post their views on-line. If they can accomplish this, they can figure out a way to get a shag.

There are genuine Incels, but those that post online are nothing but charletans.

Incels are void of IMM (Inner Manson Mode), they don't know how to get them to do things, even nasty things.

I found that with IMM, one can get them to go way beyond sex!

Incels really need to aim a little higher and there'll be a windfall of sex among other things!

Manson was a Maestro! However, orchestrating a symphony of women is not without it's own hazards, it will have you looking like this;

I think a big part of the Incel problem is related to age. Basically all young men are Incels, because no matter what is going on, you'd rather be fucking. When I'm at work, I'd rather be fucking. Driving the car? I'd rather be fucking. Writing this sentence right now... yeah, I'd rather be fucking. And I'm 46, so between hormonal changes and my medicine, my sex drive is immensely lower than when I was young... And I'd still rather be fucking. To young men, sex is everything. Affection is everything. Back in college, I basically had all my needs met (food, shelter, fun) and I was still pretty much obsessed with women. It's just that way.

So Incels... I mean, there's really no way to reach them. It's kinda like the old saying : "Women dispense the Redpills, we just welcome the poor bastards when they show up." Just as you cannot Redpill men (they have to learn it for themselves) you can't Whitepill (or even Greypill) an Incel. They are locked into a Blackpill mindset and only time and experience will show them a way out of it. So I say... Lead by example. Just work on yourself, talk about the good, fun things that you do that don't involve women, let them see for themselves. It's the only way it's ever going to happen.

Originally Posted by 4lyfeman

I spend my leisure time hunting for incels on 4chan to chat with. I try to get them to see reason, but they are so adamant on thinking that their entire life fixates around pussy.

What a waste of your valuable time.

Incels vs feminists

Reopen the arenas and the colosseum, guys! There will be blood!