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    How many of you have University degrees

    What major?
    ... and was it worth it?

    Edit: Got a degree in Computer Science myself, dont know if its worth it yet.
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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Bachelor of Science and Master of Science degrees in Mechancial Engineering

    Yes it was worth it.

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Bachelor of Arts, major in History, minor in Asian Civ. But I was in a university Arts department in the early '90s, when political correctness was running completely amok, so it really sucked. In the end it was sort of worth it, in that I got a very good job based off of military training - and the degree plus that military experience makes me employable in a niche field.

    But all that said...

    In hindsight, it I could do it all over again I would have gone for a trade, and opened up my own business - probably electrician. I'd be FAR RICHER than I am now, with less army baggage in my life.
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    Bachelor of Social Sciences. This is a multidisciplinary degree that has four areas of concentration.

    Sociology
    Anthropology
    Psychology
    Political Science

    It was worth it because I didn't have to pay for it. I only paid for the books. Tuition benefits was one of the perks for working full-time at the university. Plus it is a private university.

    Master of Arts in Education. Sort of worth it.





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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    Bachelor of Arts, major in History, minor in Asian Civ. But I was in a university Arts department in the early '90s, when political correctness was running completely amok, so it really sucked. In the end it was sort of worth it, in that I got a very good job based off of military training - and the degree plus that military experience makes me employable in a niche field.

    But all that said...

    In hindsight, it I could do it all over again I would have gone for a trade, and opened up my own business - probably electrician. I'd be FAR RICHER than I am now, with less army baggage in my life.
    But then you would not have those critical thinking skills that ONLY comes from a liberal, university degree.





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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Bachelor of Science - major in Information Systems, minor in Management
    Also accepted onto Masters program for Management but left when Cupcake decided she wanted baby in her home country.

    Did it do me any good? I don't think so. I was 38 when I graduated. But at least I proved to myself that I had the intellectual capability.I tried to break into IT but was told, with refreshing honesty, by four separate specialist recruiters, "You're too old and too green".
    A gun-toting, weed-smoking, gray-bearded redneck with a Masters - old and dangerous.

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    Bachelor of Arts in English.
    No, it was not worth it. I did it primarily because at the time I had no job, and the jobs for which I was qualified required the piece of paper. So I grabbed the degree I could get the fastest. Managed some grants though, so the total bill wasn't as horrific as it can be. (Still paying on it though...)

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    IMO, the type of degree is irrelevant. A person's drive to succeed is what counts.

    I know engineering majors who can't get a job. Why? Because they won't get off their butts to earn their chops. Or they believe they're entitled to $100k starting out. By contrast, there's some folks with music degrees and brains who are making bank. Its all about ones will or lack thereof.

    Now, will the road be harder for film majors ? Probably. But that doesn't mean the doctor or lawyers can just hit cruise control on their careers either.

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    B.Sc in electronic engineering... was it worth it? Dunno yet, but certainly I don't regret it. What I do know, it gives lot of possibilities to do interesting stuff.

    But in the end degrees are just paper. Merits are what count. This is something feminists don't realize. Doesn't matter how highly educated you are, it's not relevant reason to give someone loads of money.

    Often feminists and women value themselves with superficial achievements. They think such things actually matter. And then there are some people like Jeri Ellworth self learned engineer genius, great example of Not All Women Are Like That, what comes to science and work life. Still EWALT maintains the state of affairs.

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    I'm currently undertaking a Bachelor of Economics with a Bachelor of Laws as a double degree. It will take five years for me to complete, but I have a 40 hour per week night job which pays the bills and gives me money for play and to save.

    Agree with Octavian about the will to succeed. Too many people think that they will get $80-$100k per year starting out and when they don't they just go back to Uni and do more courses.
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    Genetic engineering. Took it through the arts department though not the science department so it is a BA. With that, I got degree in roman history. It was quick as I had most of the coarses already with my BA. After that I took family law at a trade collage. Not one degree was worth anything. What is worse is that it was so long ago, I don't even remember most of what I learned.

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    BSEE, only 2 courses were worth it. Had I not gone to college and just started my business years earlier, I would have been better off. But, my parents were proud of their engineer son and that meant a lot to me.

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by WeeZul View Post
    Bachelor of Arts in English.
    No, it was not worth it. I did it primarily because at the time I had no job, and the jobs for which I was qualified required the piece of paper. So I grabbed the degree I could get the fastest. Managed some grants though, so the total bill wasn't as horrific as it can be. (Still paying on it though...)
    You should try your hand at teaching English abroad, amigo. They would love that English degree.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian View Post
    IMO, the type of degree is irrelevant. A person's drive to succeed is what counts.

    I know engineering majors who can't get a job. Why? Because they won't get off their butts to earn their chops. Or they believe they're entitled to $100k starting out. By contrast, there's some folks with music degrees and brains who are making bank. Its all about ones will or lack thereof.

    Now, will the road be harder for film majors ? Probably. But that doesn't mean the doctor or lawyers can just hit cruise control on their careers either.
    I have to respectfully disagree. There was a huge demand for those who took science, math, engineering based majors verses those who took "soft" majors back when I graduated. The fact is that it takes much more drive and hard work to earn a SME (Science, Math, Engineering) degree than it does most other majors.

    Yes there are always exceptions but from my experience those with (SME) based degrees found jobs very quickly with decent pay........those with soft majors did not.

    And I also agree that it may be much more lucrative, and satisfying, to be trained in a "hands-on" trade and become a skiiled plumber or electrician........it cost me over $1,400 to have a plumbing problem fix in my home last year.

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    I am beginning to understand the high level of writing skills here.

    I just have long term vocational machine shop at high school level, started working in my dad's shop two years after he passed. ( an uncle managed the succession and kept the shop going with the help of our lead man till I could take over in my early twenties, all kinds of money was lost so that was my education ) I started work at 17 and am now 50. Am riding this wave as long as it lasts. Converted the shop from WW2 era manual machinery to cnc mills, lathes and edm as well as most support equipment. I have considerable assets now, but will continue for another ten years. I like what I do and look and feel ten years younger anyway. I did the best I could with the situation, but would of went into law enforcement or some other government job. My only brother has a bachelor in sciences but ended up partners with me regardless. ( he has tourette's to a certain degree )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fully Completely View Post
    I am beginning to understand the high level of writing skills here.

    I just have long term vocational machine shop at high school level, started working in my dad's shop two years after he passed. ( an uncle managed the succession and kept the shop going with the help of our lead man till I could take over in my early twenties, all kinds of money was lost so that was my education ) I started work at 17 and am now 50. Am riding this wave as long as it lasts. Converted the shop from WW2 era manual machinery to cnc mills, lathes and edm as well as most support equipment. I have considerable assets now, but will continue for another ten years. I like what I do and look and feel ten years younger anyway. I did the best I could with the situation, but would of went into law enforcement or some other government job. My only brother has a bachelor in sciences but ended up partners with me regardless. ( he has tourette's to a certain degree )

    I agree. The level of writing and grammar skills demonstrated here are head and shoulders above any I have ever seen in a forum such as this. I thought we were supposed to be a bunch of bitter, live at home minimum wage job losers.....Anyway, no degree but I have been a mechanical contractor for over 35 years. These days a good machinist is worth their weight in gold....as is a good welder/pipe fitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrug the Script View Post
    You should try your hand at teaching English abroad, amigo. They would love that English degree.
    It's tempted me more than once. Right now I'm doing okay with a tech writing gig. But if it ever goes south, well...

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    Re: How many of you have University degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalBachelor View Post
    I have to respectfully disagree. There was a huge demand for those who took science, math, engineering based majors verses those who took "soft" majors back when I graduated. The fact is that it takes much more drive and hard work to earn a SME (Science, Math, Engineering) degree than it does most other majors.

    Yes there are always exceptions but from my experience those with (SME) based degrees found jobs very quickly with decent pay........those with soft majors did not.

    And I also agree that it may be much more lucrative, and satisfying, to be trained in a "hands-on" trade and become a skiiled plumber or electrician........it cost me over $1,400 to have a plumbing problem fix in my home last year.
    From what I see here, engineering grads MIGHT have a leg up in getting the initial job opprotunity,but after that , they're on their own -and locally, only the connected ENG students with internships or a voice in the big comoanies have a shot. Perhaps at some point in the recent past Engineering grads could get work easily, but not now.

    Nowadays, everyone has to beat the pavement for work. I know back in the 90s and early 00's even basket weavers could get work easy, but the economy's obviously changed.Nowadays, the degree-no matter what it's in-is irrelevant. You need something else on your resume or you will be round filed. So what, you have an ENG/Law / Business/ Social Sciences
    degree. So do two hundred other people. What American companies want is proof that you can do your job and have a work ethic.

    A common misconception is that more people getting degrees watered them down. The hidden truth , after having
    worked inside a few companies and talked with some key folks, is that feminism watered them down.

    Back in the day, only motivated folks went to college and got degrees. That's a big reason why companies trusted a 4 year degree, because it meant the person who earned it had to have a work ethic to pull it off. Nowadays, between feminism telling every girl she deserves to go to school and government pumping out a generation of administrators encouraging
    college for every person regardless of drive or motivation, firms are hiring people with degrees and finding out they have no work ethic, no brains, and no motivation.And thats a costly mistake to make.

    If a high school student and a college grad are both dumb as a box of rocks, the degree ceases to be worth anything as a
    barometer of performance. I witnessed a manager of a company tell a class of students their college degree was irrelevant. What he was looking for was proof of work ethic.

    The days of saying "I'm a STEM grad, so I'll be set for life" are over. The engineering grad I know who can't find work is totally befuddled why no company will consider him. It might have to do with his entitled attitude and unwillingness to get a part time job or show any initiative in college. No record of work ethic means no consideration of employment.

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    BSME with strong minor in Nuclear Engineering, in the 70s. Only cost me 5 years of my life serving on a submarine. Then I got several good jobs which I loved. So, yes, it was worth it. As the nuclear energy industry died in this country I found that other countries were uninterested in having non-native engineers working in their nuclear industries. I retooled with an MBA the went on to PhD in Operations and Management Science. Total out of pocket cost for tuition through PhD; $500. There were other costs.

    I am now in a very good and well paying job based on being a statistician/quant knowledge resource in the financial services industry. I like my job, but I loved being a field engineer. There really is no substitute for doing work that you truely love.

    I have less hopes for my sons. The costs associated with higher education makes them a bad bargain today. When I started out the major cost was the opportunity cost of not working. If I had gone to the state university where I lived the semester tuition would have been $600, which would have been paid by a grant from the state for the first year in my case. This was pretty typical. The tuition assistance has shifted from grants to loans with the result that most graduates are crippled with debt by the time they graduate.

    BTW I worked as a college professor at a land grant university and was sickened and amazed by the lack of knowledge and intellectual ability of today's incoming freshmen. Actually this was a little over 10 years ago, I don't think it has gotten better.

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    I have some college experience under my belt but I have yet to finish and get a degree. Not really sure what I want to do at this point especially with the way the job market is in this shithole country and going to a major four year university is basically signing yourself up for indentured servitude. Im thinking of maybe getting into a trade as those kind of jobs are always in demand and the tuition for that type of education isn't through the roof.
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