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    How long has the world by gynocentric?

    I was listening to Aaron Clarey today. He was apparently talking to Rollo about finding a Petticoat Junction kind of girl. I can only assume they were referring to the daughters in that show. In any event, they clearly viewed these women in an idealized sort of way.

    I went to youtube to refresh my memory on what that show was like. The show was from 1963. Even as far back as then you had the bumbling idiot of a man stumbling around the smart and cleaver matriarch that was the envy of the whole town. One of the daughters was even driving the train as a hobby. Girl power already had it's running shoes on way back in 63. It's been going on since before most of you were born.

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Speak for yourself, you. I could have watched every week, had I wanted. It wasn't my favorite, or even close. But with only four channels where I lived, you were going to see them all sooner or later.

    Guides were paper then and sold in grocery stores. We didn't have no sissy remotes either. Parents sent their kids to flip the channels.

    Those days were dumb alright, but Hollywood was even dumber.
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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I was listening to Aaron Clarey today. He was apparently talking to Rollo about finding a Petticoat Junction kind of girl. I can only assume they were referring to the daughters in that show. In any event, they clearly viewed these women in an idealized sort of way.

    I went to youtube to refresh my memory on what that show was like. The show was from 1963. Even as far back as then you had the bumbling idiot of a man stumbling around the smart and cleaver matriarch that was the envy of the whole town. One of the daughters was even driving the train as a hobby. Girl power already had it's running shoes on way back in 63. It's been going on since before most of you were born.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eQPm5e-lE
    It's a good observation on underlying truths in mid 20th century pop culture. The women were sometimes portrayed as attractive, fit, attentive and submissive toward men. But that's only surface. There are plenty of examples where the overall situation says otherwise.

    There's boomer nostalgia for the Andy Griffith show. Andy's the sheriff and supposedly in charge of the peaceful small town. But was he really in charge or was it the matriarch Aunt Bee who could boss Andy around? Other males are made out to be buffoons, such as Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle. Gomer later gets his own show, where the male realm of the US Marine corps is turned into a joke.

    Then there's the Mary Tyler Moore show. She's portrayed as an attractive oppressed female working in a male dominated office. Obviously, she's smarter than her colleagues but still has to answer to a male and put up the bumbling idiot Ted Baxter. Ted gets the fame as a newscaster while Mary just toils in the background.

    Looking back on the mid last century era as an ideal is a mistake, as society was already morphing toward what we have today.

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Speak for yourself, you. I could have watched every week, had I wanted. It wasn't my favorite, or even close. But with only four channels where I lived, you were going to see them all sooner or later.

    Guides were paper then and sold in grocery stores. We didn't have no sissy remotes either. Parents sent their kids to flip the channels.

    Those days were dumb alright, but Hollywood was even dumber.
    The TV room was the warmest room in the house, gobbled up 1,500 watts to keep the vacuum tubes glowing! They took 5 or more minutes to warm up and start functioning. Vertical hold and roll were dials that always needed adjusting, and there were ghosts from signal reflection, plus industrial and solar interference, late at night you could get channels from hundreds of miles away whereas in daytime all you got was ghosts and lots of snow.

    I'll say one thing about the internet, the connection is good, the choices are abundant, and it's interactive!

    I buried TV in 05 and never looked back!
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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The TV room was the warmest room in the house, gobbled up 1,500 watts to keep the vacuum tubes glowing! They took 5 or more minutes to warm up and start functioning. Vertical hold and roll were dials that always needed adjusting, and there were ghosts from signal reflection, plus industrial and solar interference, late at night you could get channels from hundreds of miles away whereas in daytime all you got was ghosts and lots of snow.
    Already these details have transitioned into history and geezer memories!
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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Already these details have transitioned into history and geezer memories!
    Ah the good ol’ days.

    True, but Tower missed one: The “thump-fix”.

    When electronics didn’t work the way they were supposed to you hit it a thump with your hand and surprisingly it worked.

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I was listening to Aaron Clarey today. He was apparently talking to Rollo about finding a Petticoat Junction kind of girl. I can only assume they were referring to the daughters in that show. In any event, they clearly viewed these women in an idealized sort of way.

    I went to youtube to refresh my memory on what that show was like. The show was from 1963. Even as far back as then you had the bumbling idiot of a man stumbling around the smart and cleaver matriarch that was the envy of the whole town. One of the daughters was even driving the train as a hobby. Girl power already had it's running shoes on way back in 63. It's been going on since before most of you were born.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eQPm5e-lE
    I looked up Petticoat Junction very breifly. Those types of women are LONG FREAKING GONE. They are so far gone that they aren't even a memory anymore.

    This is the modern woman. Yes I know she is such a beauty. I must be a homo cause I don't find anything about the modern woman attractive at all.

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Already these details have transitioned into history and geezer memories!
    I got news for you, when Elan came out with the radical side cut ski AKA shaped skis, Glen Plake was the latest in extreme skiing, and Bill Clinton was in the Whitehouse, is becoming a geezer memory!

    The shit we're talking about is older than the the pyramids!

    I actually have a pair of the K2-MSL in the photo below. I brought straight ski stile and discipline into the shape ski world, I chafed up my boots and chewed the bottoms of off my poles thereafter. I ride with one ski half way over the other to make them fit in the tightest line possible like narrow skis, both skis together functioning as one, old habits die hard or not at all.

    Lift tickets at Killington during this time were $27 bucks, last I heard it's $160 a day!



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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Women were part of everything back before too long. Before the invention of radio, women had to be everywhere. So many songs were about love. There was little contraception. Men and women were stuck with each other no matter what a hundred and more years ago, so gynocentricism kind of was there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The TV room was the warmest room in the house, gobbled up 1,500 watts to keep the vacuum tubes glowing! They took 5 or more minutes to warm up and start functioning. Vertical hold and roll were dials that always needed adjusting, and there were ghosts from signal reflection, plus industrial and solar interference, late at night you could get channels from hundreds of miles away whereas in daytime all you got was ghosts and lots of snow.

    I'll say one thing about the internet, the connection is good, the choices are abundant, and it's interactive!

    I buried TV in 05 and never looked back!
    There was interference because the signals from other sources would get converted into electricity upon contact with the vacuum tubes in the TVs circuits which would go into the CRT and speakers.

    In a vacuum tube TV, even the vacuum tubes acted as antennas.

    In the transistor TVs introduced in the 1960s by Sony, this problem was solved because the transistors did not convert electromagnetic radiation into electricity and the transistors are insulated in plastic packaging to further prevent interference.

    The transistors are also more energy efficient because they are smaller and do not dissipate much heat compared to vacuum tubes.

    The 1,500 watt vacuum tube TV you mentioned would only consume 30 watts if it used transistors which would not only reduce the electrical consumption of the TV but also the air-conditioner because less heat would be dissipated into the room.

    But for me the most important TV related inventions would have to be the WebTV, DVR and streaming services by Bill Gates who introduced MSN TV and WebTV in 1996.

    The other important media innovations are the XBox which is the 1st smart console with a hard drive, USB port and internet connection, and the Zune which is the 1st USB media player, also with an internet connection, both of which were invented by Bill Gates in 2001 and 2006, respectively.

    The other important TV related inventions would have to be the iMac, the 1st smart monitor, which eliminated the need to have a separate set of speakers and PC since both were inside the monitor: subsequent 3rd party designs of PC monitors in the modern times already have built in high definition surround sound speakers with bass, treble and equalizers for superior sound quality, but it was Steve Jobs who introduced this innovation in 1998.

    Steve Jobs also invented the 1st mass market MP3 player called the iPod in 2001 along with the iPod Dock, which allows the iPod to be connected to a pair of portable speakers that also has a USB port so that the device can play sound from USB devices, and the iTV, the 1st smart TV with an internet connection and USB port in 2006, while he also invented the 1st mass market smartphone, the iPhone in 2007 and some models of smartphone have cables that can connect the feed coming from the phones to a TV.

    Another important invention is the file sharing website of Sean Parker called Napster which he launched in 1999.

    With all of these innovations, records such as VHS and betamax tapes, cassettes, laserdiscs, CDs, VCDs, DVDs and blu-ray discs became obsolete because media could be played on a USB device or streamed from the internet.

    Additionally, it was Bill Gates who invented the digital encyclopedia in 1993, called Encarta, which also became the 1st online encyclopedia in 2000 when all of its content was moved to the internet. This made printed encyclopedias obsolete.

    Then in 1995, Bill Gates invented e-news when he launched MSN, short for Microsoft Network and this made newspapers obsolete.

    Then in 2007, Jeff Bezos invented e-books and e-comics which are sold in Amazon's Kindle Store.

    After the introduction of all of these inventions, news stands, book stores, comic stores and record stores started closing around 2006.

    Today, there are no more record stores in malls and few news stands, book stores and comic stores.

    Today, I no longer use printed materials, audio records and video records because I can play these from USB devices or stream it online.

    I also no longer use film thanks to smartphones with digital cameras which were invented by Eric Fossum in 1994 and made into a mass market phenomenon by Steve Jobs in 2007.

    The use of digital cameras has also made film obsolete.

    Today, there are no film stores in malls and Kodak is bankrupt.
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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Since there were humans. Women, at any era in history, (or pre-history) were only expected to complete easier jobs.

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    There is a notion in some in MGTOW that gynocentrism was since forever.

    This is Wrong.

    We know it's wrong because let's just take American society. Men use to spank their wives when they were out of line. This was encouraged. Women were watched over by their father, then by their husbands. Women were clearly subordinate to the man in the household.

    To say otherwise is a kind of stubborn defeatism that ignores reality.

    The recent push to put women over men is part of a gutter culture that came up after the second World War when a new elite began to rule America. They pushed Christianity out of the way- the counsel from above that there is a hierarchy among man, with men above women, for the good of family and nation. They created chaos between the races and genders as part of "divide and conquer".

    Today they are full tilt on increasing the social status of women at the expense of men. Why do you think they fight so hard to censor MGTOW- banning the MGTOW subreddit, attacking other communities, and trying to misrepresent MGTOW as evil? Why should it matter to them?

    The People are the enemy; and the surefire way to defang them is to emasculate the men. That's what this is about. It is not a forever thing "Waaah, it's always this way and always will be, so I'll just accept it". It's ~70 years old and is being advocated for at levels we've not seen before. If the average man wasn't a conformist, defeatist simp, NONE of this would have happened.
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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Men use to spank their wives when they were out of line. This was encouraged. Women were watched over by their father, then by their husbands. Women were clearly subordinate to the man in the household.
    That's a natural law setting, one that the dial has been turned up to criminal. That culture, I say "that" because it's extinct and frowned upon in the west by legal prosecution for violating laws enacted by the cultural Marxists/social-engineers, precipitous.

    It's been one hell of a cultural revolution, my brothers, the only worthwhile trench/foxhole is MGTOW, and the ghosts among us have gone from the trench and foxholes to the bunker deep underground where everything's silent and the war has been muffled.


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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Today they are full tilt on increasing the social status of men at the expense of women.
    Erm, I assume this is a typo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    There is a notion in some in MGTOW that gynocentrism was since forever.

    This is Wrong.

    We know it's wrong because let's just take American society. Men use to spank their wives when they were out of line. This was encouraged. Women were watched over by their father, then by their husbands. Women were clearly subordinate to the man in the household.

    To say otherwise is a kind of stubborn defeatism that ignores reality.

    The recent push to put women over men is part of a gutter culture that came up after the second World War when a new elite began to rule America. They pushed Christianity out of the way- the counsel from above that there is a hierarchy among man, with men above women, for the good of family and nation. They created chaos between the races and genders as part of "divide and conquer".

    Today they are full tilt on increasing the social status of men at the expense of women. Why do you think they fight so hard to censor MGTOW- banning the MGTOW subreddit, attacking other communities, and trying to misrepresent MGTOW as evil? Why should it matter to them?

    The People are the enemy; and the surefire way to defang them is to emasculate the men. That's what this is about. It is not a forever thing "Waaah, it's always this way and always will be, so I'll just accept it". It's ~70 years old and is being advocated for at levels we've not seen before. If the average man wasn't a conformist, defeatist simp, NONE of this would have happened.
    It depends on how you view the word "gynocentrism", for me, it is just Briffault's law.
    For men, it is always responsibility>>>>rights
    For women, it is always rights>>>responsibility.
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    Unearned rights always flow in just one direction. From men to women. They are the central point of which "rights" will be flowed to, so gyno"centrism".

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

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    I looked up Petticoat Junction very breifly. Those types of women are LONG FREAKING GONE. They are so far gone that they aren't even a memory anymore.

    This is the modern woman. Yes I know she is such a beauty. I must be a homo cause I don't find anything about the modern woman attractive at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    There is a notion in some in MGTOW that gynocentrism was since forever.

    This is Wrong.

    We know it's wrong because let's just take American society. Men use to spank their wives when they were out of line. This was encouraged. Women were watched over by their father, then by their husbands. Women were clearly subordinate to the man in the household.
    That is rather a myopic view of the term. The Webster dictionary definition of the term 'gynocentrism' is too simplistic and has no reference to anything. That isn't how MGTOW uses it. Gynocentrism has its roots in biology as it is a biologically driven instinct to protect women. You can't deny, and I welcome your rebuttal on this, that it's hardwired in men to do so. The mitigating effect of culture or religion at one time in history doesn't change this biological fact. Men's hyperbolic sensitivity to female suffering and their obliviousness to males' is derived from this very instinct. Tell me, at the time when it was acceptable to spank women which gender was sent to do the hard labor on the farm, which gender was dying in senseless wars, which gender must provide and protect? With this in view, women's subordinate position in society or in the family hierarchy at one time in history doesn't change the involved biological realities, if anything it serves as a trigger for the male instinct to protect women. Remember, to be enthroned is to be enslaved. At the time when it was acceptable for husbands to spank their wives wasn't it an acceptable cultural practice for men to lay down their jackets over puddles as well? Now, if you had told me that it was acceptable that any man other than the husband can slap the husband's wife you may have a point.

    To say otherwise is a kind of stubborn defeatism that ignores reality.
    It's really not. Recognizing your biological propensity can be a good thing because by recognizing your weakness you can exercise strength, and you can fight the urge to serve that male instinct.

    The recent push to put women over men is part of a gutter culture that came up after the second World War when a new elite began to rule America. They pushed Christianity out of the way- the counsel from above that there is a hierarchy among man, with men above women, for the good of family and nation. They created chaos between the races and genders as part of "divide and conquer".
    Ha, the good old it's written in stone! Christianity was losing its footing as a society's anchor long before the Second World War, the so-called elites merely took an opportunity presented to them and ran with it. I think it's important to recognize the tremendous power in knowing keenly exactly what drives human nature and I believe nobody knows this better than the powers in control of things.

    Today they are full tilt on increasing the social status of men at the expense of women.
    Isn't it the other way around?

    Why do you think they fight so hard to censor MGTOW- banning the MGTOW subreddit, attacking other communities, and trying to misrepresent MGTOW as evil? Why should it matter to them?
    Because we represent the opposition to the changing social paradigm. Getting women to rule over men would keep men tame and under control. At least that's their view.

    The People are the enemy; and the surefire way to defang them is to emasculate the men. That's what this is about. It is not a forever thing "Waaah, it's always this way and always will be, so I'll just accept it". It's ~70 years old and is being advocated for at levels we've not seen before. If the average man wasn't a conformist, defeatist simp, NONE of this would have happened.
    Again, there's tremendous power in understanding the biological drives of the male and the female.

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    Re: How long has the world by gynocentric?

    Here is a little addendum to my response to Jag, it's not some elites that destroyed the family unit by the way. It's not some boogeyman marxism, communism, or socialism, it's women. The elites, as I said, may have taken advantage of the opportunity presented to them knowing how keenly aware they are of human nature, but it's women, it's women, who destroyed the family unit. The curious exclusion of women from your post as the major culprit in the destruction of the family unit could be regarded as a snippet of this gynocentric instinct at play. It's so organic that even the most conscious among us falls victim to it without knowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    Here is a little addendum to my response to Jag, it's not some elites that destroyed the family unit by the way. It's not some boogeyman marxism, communism, or socialism, it's women. The elites, as I said, may have taken advantage of an opportunity presented to them knowing how keenly aware they are of human nature, but it's women, it's women, who destroyed the family unit. The curious exclusion of women from your post as the major culprit in the destruction of the family unit could be regarded as a snippet of the gynocentrism at play. It's so organic that even the most conscious among us fall victim of it without knowing.
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    I see a lot of young men with a lot of justified anger in them. They are judged and damned by a gynocentric society for no fucking reason other than they are males.

    There was implemented a ticking time bomb and the time is slowly running out. That's what I see and feel.

    The feminist revolution - as every revolution before - will get eaten alive by its children.

    And I can't fucking wait to see it happen. Am I cruel because of that? Maybe, but I have good reasons.


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