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    House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    NDAA FY 2022 Requirement for Women to Register for Selective Service REMOVED Yesterday, December 7, 2021.
    NDAA FY 2022: 1. No longer requires women to register for the draft.

    Commenters: But what if you identify as a woman?
    Does the UPenn tranny swimmer need to register?
    In that case - to be fair - females should be required to register . . . Itís a damn shame how cucked the Republicans continue to be, and Iím praying for a miracle to change that.
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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Commenters: But what if you identify as a woman?
    Good point. Can you see a bunch of 18-year-old guys newly identifying as a woman?

    I wonder what the actual language in the law will be. If it honors two-gender biological sex, male and female (and by "honor", I mean it lists no other categories), that will be important to other issues related to the whole trans mess.
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    Is it me or is anyone else thinking the Anglo Saxon countries are racing towards Lalaland and complete insanity? The US becoming some asylum of multi gender psycho's who will be even too stupid to know how to push the button in order to defend themselves, Canada already has gone shetarded, Australia is actually building concentration camps, New Zealand going NK in isolation and the UK is drowning in pride over their "amazing" Brexit.
    What the hell is going there?

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    It's not fair.

    However, vets who have already served with women have said some hard things about the experience. They're out on a ship or some remote outpost. The women naturally hook up with whoever they want. But there's never enough women to go around, and it makes it harder for the guys to get along. This is bringing the worst of home life to the field, and I know I wouldn't like it.
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    what happened to equality????

    No Equity here either.

    my grandfather told me at a very young age "boy, there is only one thing a woman wants from a man...... it's 6 inches long and has a head on it..... and its a dollar bill"

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    So, from what I understand all men in the U.S. are required to register should there be a need for a draft.

    I don’t quite get it. Surely in today’s age everyone is on record somewhere, and if not how is big.gov going to contact them to call them up?

    But, if women are equal to men why then should they be exempt? (I guess that’s the point of the thread.)

    I’m confused – nothing new there.

    As far as I’m aware there is no impending draft situation in the U.S., so where’s the beef in this story?

    Could it be, as others have alluded to: the transgender issue?

    To, possibly, try to make it acceptable on some level for men to identify as women?

    Fuck that! I’d rather die a man than live my life pretending to be a woman!

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    What about our restitution for 250 years of service by having men exempt from the draft, with women to serve for the next 250 years, then we'll talk about equality after they have their body count!

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    So, from what I understand all men in the U.S. are required to register should there be a need for a draft.

    I don’t quite get it. Surely in today’s age everyone is on record somewhere, and if not how is big.gov going to contact them to call them up?

    But, if women are equal to men why then should they be exempt? (I guess that’s the point of the thread.)
    Maybe it's a leftover from when times weren't so automated. Or they could think their prospective cannon fodder is important enough to have a stand-alone list. Most likely though, it's just tradition.

    Why did congress do this? Might be the military don't want the bitches. But congress don't usually care what the military thinks. So, it's probably just another pussy pass.

    The draft has never been fair. They used to let married guy's slide. Rich fucks escaped by going to college or getting reserve gigs unavailable to regular Joes. The year I got drafted, they threw the ping pong balls in the box, starting with January and ending with December. But they never stirred them up. Guys like me with birthdays later in the year got low draft numbers. Guys born in the spring escaped. We were setting around the day after the lottery and guys were going, I'm 270, or I'm 320. What's your number frog? 9. Anyone with a number below 60 was gone, 60 to 120, maybe. Above 120, you were safe. Thanks for nothing Uncle Sam.
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    Goddammit, feminists across USA must be flooding their local sewers with their tears, this is a great blow for equality!

    Maybe the US military finally realized how useless the majority of woman are in the field when all the do is get pregnant and sit at home at the first sign of combat, if it had that kind of PR behind it I'm sure the commie-left would be all up in arms voicing their complaints against this.
    Maybe the US military will hopefully increase in competence at-least.
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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    An American politician can't wipe his own ass without first checking with polls first to see which option will have the best impact his potential re-election campaign. The inclusion of language requiring women to register for the draft, and the removal of that language, were both the result of politicians checking those polls.

    Understanding where the pressure came from is simple: which voters stand to benefit from the removal of that provision?

    Equality, my ass...

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Ok jackoff, I was wrong, here's the story. If I was put on a list at birth, and slipped through the cracks, I'd be home free. But if I'm required by law to sign up for the draft and don't, that's a crime. Simple as that.

    Nobody's been drafted for the last 50 years; I was the last. You should a seen the Army fort in late November 73 where I finally escaped. None of the draftees re-upped, we all got out at once. What a zoo.
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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Nobody's been drafted for the last 50 years; I was the last. You should a seen the Army fort in late November 73 where I finally escaped. None of the draftees re-upped, we all got out at once. What a zoo.
    I signed up for Selective Service on my 18th birthday in 1974. The draft ended the year before but I can't recall if I knew that back then. I probably did. I can't remember getting a number or classification (1A, 4F, etc).

    Recent reading says a male must sign up within a 60-day window starting 30 days before his 18th birthday and ending 29 days after.

    I had been thinking all of these years that I had a whole year to sign up, from my 18th birthday to the day before my 19th birthday. Maybe I was wrong or maybe the rules changed?

    Frog, if you are reading this, what do you recall about that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Can you see a bunch of 18-year-old guys newly identifying as a woman?

    I wonder what the actual language in the law will be. If it honors two-gender biological sex, male and female (and by "honor", I mean it lists no other categories), that will be important to other issues related to the whole trans mess.
    Found this:

    https://www.sss.gov/wp-content/uploa...isterChart.pdf

    where it states:

    U.S. citizens or immigrants who are born male and have changed their gender to female = requirement applies

    Individuals who are born female and have changed their gender to male = requirement does not apply


    At least it appears to identify only male and female. And I wonder if the govt only recognized gender changes made via certain documentation.

    But, 18-year old women could identify as male to evade signing up.
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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Just another case of men being disposable to society. Is there likely to be a draft? No. But that's not the point. Women get all the benefits of citizenship, can hold elected office, vote for laws, etc but don't have to share in the full price of being a citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    Just another case of men being disposable to society. Is there likely to be a draft? No. But that's not the point. Women get all the benefits of citizenship, can hold elected office, vote for laws, etc but don't have to share in the full price of being a citizen.
    Citizenship rights come with responsibilities as ruled by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) - Well, except if one is a female.

    In 1917 that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled selective service and the draft Constitutional based upon rights having responsibilities, stating ďIt may not be doubted that the very conception of a just government and its duty to the citizen includes the reciprocal obligation of the citizen to render military service in case of need, and the right to compel it. (link: https://nymensactionnetwork.org/2018...ctive-service/)

    After jumping through hoops, NCFM (National Coalition for Men) finally got Southern District Court of Texas to find the case ripe and rule that a male-only draft is unconstitutional (link: https://ncfm.org/wp-content/uploads/...ISION-full.pdf) as it violates equal protection under the law guaranteed by the 5th and 14th Amendment.

    Of course this decision was then overturned by the Fifth Circuit, which was then passed to SCOTUS who then declined to hear it, passing the buck to Congress. In fact, as far back as March 2020, a Commission specifically created by Congress (the National Commission on Military National and Public Service) recommended that male-only draft be eliminated on favour of eligibility to all individuals of the applicable age (link: https://www.lawfareblog.com/national...t-registration).

    So why has Congress not followed through with the recommendation to open up the draft to all? Why did SCOTUS pass the buck instead of finding the case ripe, just as the Southern District found it to be so?

    The underlying message is loud and clear - Men are disposable, Women are not. Sons are less valuable than Daughters.

    Equality? Boys hitting their 18th birthday MUST register for selective service, and if they fail, it is considered a felony, punishable by up to 5 years imprisonment or a fine of $250,000 or both.
    Girls get to sit at home sipping ice chai lattes while complaining how oppressed they are.

    Equity? Men make up 75-80% of the enlisted personnel, but account for 95% of combat deaths. Men are also in all the frontline positions exposed to danger.
    Women make up 20-25% of enlisted personnel, yet make up only 5% of combat deaths and sit far away from the front.

    Men aren't guaranteed equal protection under the law. Women, well there's a word for those who enjoy rights without any responsibilities - its called PRIVILEGE.

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    The letter really does say "Greetings from the President of the United States." I came out a better person, but the process was most unpleasant. My parents valued honesty and fairness, qualities that are in short supply in the military. If someone wants out of the draft by pretending to be a perv, that's ok with me. Most vets lean the other way, but I don't care.

    As far as that "honor two gender stuff," I'm sure it was never even dreamed of back then. What would they do now? Hard to say, they haven't thought about it this time either, would be my guess. If the draft started, a few nut cases might get by, but if too many slide, they'll just change the rules.

    The Army was on the skids in the early seventies. The Viet Nam war had just proven it was a lousy career choice. Good NCO's, the backbone of any Army left wholesale, and weren't waiting to get their 20 in either. That's how the military works, no 20, no pension. These guys were halfway there, they gave up a lot to get out. Those who stayed had grown up in the hood, or on a farm, or a coal mining town. They had nothing to go back to. Or you could be crazy. Being crazy in the military's no big deal, as long as you follow orders. Or don't get caught! Pretty close to that anyway.
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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    A couple of thoughts about registration, and being exempt.

    First, the consequences of not registering. I had to register back in 83. At the time, I got a letter that stated it was a federal crime if I did not register within 30 days of my 18th, and that I wouldn't be eligible for federally backed student loans, nor eligible for federal employment, if I didn't register. I don't recall anyone being arrested for not registering, nor hearing from anyone who was denied a loan or a job for not registering. At the time, I didn't see it as a big deal; my father had been drafted with no register, so I figured if the draft came along I was going to be drafted, registering or not.

    As for who gets called up, it never has been fair. When my father was drafted (Korean War) the selection was handled by your local draft board. This meant that board members had a great deal of clout and could keep a man out of the service if they chose to do so. The wealthy and influential have always been able to avoid it, if they wanted to.

    Finally, when it comes to women in the draft: Is there even a definition of what a woman is, anymore? When my own congress occasionally throws out the term "woman" and replaces is with "birthing person", how can you determine who is exempt? Can you even say "men are required" when the definition of what a man is can be just as fluid as what a woman is? To me, this is proof that even our politicians don't buy into the "gender is just a social construct" line that they claim to support.

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    We probably shouldn't read too much into this. The way congress sees it, if were not drafting men, why waste time and money registering women? That money could be given to some rich bastard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Maybe it's a leftover from when times weren't so automated. Or they could think their prospective cannon fodder is important enough to have a stand-alone list. Most likely though, it's just tradition.

    Why did congress do this? Might be the military don't want the bitches. But congress don't usually care what the military thinks. So, it's probably just another pussy pass.

    The draft has never been fair. They used to let married guy's slide. Rich fucks escaped by going to college or getting reserve gigs unavailable to regular Joes. The year I got drafted, they threw the ping pong balls in the box, starting with January and ending with December. But they never stirred them up. Guys like me with birthdays later in the year got low draft numbers. Guys born in the spring escaped. We were setting around the day after the lottery and guys were going, I'm 270, or I'm 320. What's your number frog? 9. Anyone with a number below 60 was gone, 60 to 120, maybe. Above 120, you were safe. Thanks for nothing Uncle Sam.
    So, did you get called up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I signed up for Selective Service on my 18th birthday in 1974. The draft ended the year before but I can't recall if I knew that back then. I probably did. I can't remember getting a number or classification (1A, 4F, etc).

    Recent reading says a male must sign up within a 60-day window starting 30 days before his 18th birthday and ending 29 days after.

    I had been thinking all of these years that I had a whole year to sign up, from my 18th birthday to the day before my 19th birthday. Maybe I was wrong or maybe the rules changed?

    Frog, if you are reading this, what do you recall about that?


    Found this:

    https://www.sss.gov/wp-content/uploa...isterChart.pdf

    where it states:

    U.S. citizens or immigrants who are born male and have changed their gender to female = requirement applies

    Individuals who are born female and have changed their gender to male = requirement does not apply


    At least it appears to identify only male and female. And I wonder if the govt only recognized gender changes made via certain documentation.

    But, 18-year old women could identify as male to evade signing up.


    "On January 27, 1973—the day the Vietnam cease-fire was announced—the administration stopped the draft, six months before the draft law was to expire on July 1, 1973. The last draft lottery was on
    December 7, 1972."

    "The draft ended in 1973 with the Selective Service Act expiring t wo years later."
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    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: House Voted to Remove Requirement for Women to Register

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    So, did you get called up?
    Oh yeah. In the fall of 71 they gathered up all the guys whose student deferments had run out. Grabbed thousands of us at once, then discharged us all two years later. We were the last to get drafted, though everybody has to sign up.

    The strange thing is, both the best and the worst parts of my personality came from those years. I learned how to find and value friends, and how to get by when things are tough. Also learned how to lie, cheat and steal, though I try not to practice these skills too much.
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