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    A fine link via Maggie McNeil

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    Sit down. I have news for you. If youíre trying to date or hook up with someone you know from their work in escorting or porn, without paying them, your chances of success are close to zero. This is true even if we favorite your adoring comments on Twitter.

    It may come as a shock to hear this. You may feel like sexual attraction is only part of the connection you have with this worker, and that paying would deny the authenticity of that. Or maybe you think that you are a really good (looking) person and only creepy or unattractive people pay. Maybe both you and the sex worker are queer and/or have similar politics. You know sex workers and are down with decriminalization. There are many reasons you may feel you are exceptional.

    You are operating under a basic misunderstanding of who we are and what we are doing.
    Indeed.

    What Ms TitsAndSass is saying is that once a woman turns to prostitution, it changes her sexuality permanently. Sex simply no longer means to her what it means to a normal woman. She continues:

    I feel devalued and strung along. When people contact me by way of my ad or social media I assume they are interested in seeing me as an escort. Iím excited and open in response. I like my job, I like meeting people, and most importantly, I like making the money I need to survive. When I realize that youíve called me to jerk off or that you want to take me out to dinner and try to woo me into unpaid sex, I go through an emotional arc from excitement to confusion to pure rage.
    Isn't that amazeballs? The very idea that some dude might want to get to know her and them move on to sex fills her with rage.

    Guys out there in the friend-zone, orbiters: sluts ain't that much different. That is, "normal" women these days aren't "normal" sexually, in the same sense that being obese is normal but not normal.

    If you are orbiting a chick, you fail to grasp that the would is a very, very different place for her. Sex is not something in short supply. Dick is not a scarce commodity. They see sex with someone like you as transactional, and the idea of you wanting to get sex for "free" makes them feel like you would feel when an obvious scuzzball used car dealer is telling you obvious lies and has the front to imagine that you are falling for it.

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    Re: Hookers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    What Ms TitsAndSass is saying is that once a woman turns to prostitution, it changes her sexuality permanently. Sex simply no longer means to her what it means to a normal woman.
    Does it? So you're saying a "normal woman" doesn't offer sex in exchange for resources?

    I mean, I'm seeing a woman right now who seems to enjoy sex simply for sex's sake. She not only pays her own way, but also routinely offers to pay my way. But this has not, by any means, been my average experience.

    But I do get that when something is actually your job, you become annoyed when people try to get your services for free.
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    Well I know a gal that use to be an escort and she use to get $5k and up per hour. If you were ever to see her pictures when she was younger you would see why she could charge so much. However if you ever really sit down and talk to a woman that either is or use to be an escort you will see something different about them. First off they look at their sex appeal or pussy as a commodity, it is to make money with. Next is how they handle the job which is to compartmentalize it. With most of these women if you were to ask how many men they have been with, the number you will get is the guys that banged without direct pay. The guys that they banged escorting will be left out of this because to them that doesn't count because it was work. Husbands or boyfriends get standard sex, no thrills in most cases, not all. Guys that hire them get what they want within reason of pay and what she is willing to do. She will put out a 110% effort in the bedroom for a customer and tell her husband that it was just a job and nothing more.

    Dating or worse yet being married to a woman that is currently escorting is a recipe for disaster. Yes some of these women will go the extra mile to keep a man at home happy in and out of bed, however even these women are rare. High dollar escorts get high dollar clients which means that she may have to do a job that requires her to spend a weekend or more with her customer. Often times her husband is left alone at home for days or even weeks while she is in Europe having exotic sex with other men. When she is at home, yes she may be loving and such. However she may also not be available sexually to her husband because of having to get ready for a job or just returning from one. Yes her husband is first in her life for everything but her pussy, customers get top priority on that. Never expect to get the full truth from her either, she knows that her old man probably does not like what she does. She will not tell you about her being one of six women to bang this client. Chances are if her husband was to ask for something like this, at best he'd get a threesome for a couple of hours if he is lucky.

    My friend that use to escort is a wealth of red pill knowledge on how women act and think. However this same gal is now in her very late 40's to early 50's and still looks good, she just can't find a man to settle down with. Yes she use to get $5k an hour to fuck guys, now she can't get a man to buy the cow, only drink the milk. She is very guarded about her past and minimizes what she has done. What is amusing is that she is looking for man that just won't ask about her past or anything like that. She wants a man that will not question her if she should go out to meet a "friend" for a few hours at a hotel or something. She is friends with some of her old clients and does meet up with them and such for shits and giggles. She does not want any guy she is with to know if that other man was a friend, client or lover. She thinks that there is nothing wrong in parading her current lover around to these other men she has been with and done more with at a party.

    Now believe it or not this same gal started off trying to rope me in on marrying her. As you all can guess I made sure she clearly knew that I was not that guy. Then she came up with living together.. I replied with telling her that I might rent a room from her at best. Mind you I only said that because as a truck driver, having a room that you rent is mainly for storing shit and that's it. I let her know that we are friends and I would not mind a little action with her, however that is as far as I would go. Her retort was to tell me that I am making her pay the price for what other women did to me. After I stopped laughing I then explained that payback has nothing to do with it. Simply put, my life is good right now and every time a woman became a part of the picture my life went to shit. Maybe not at first, may have taken some years, however it always ended up as shit. Even asking her questions such as "name me one legal advantage that a man gets for being married" to the "I'm happy now paying women for sex, why should I fuck this up with taking on another women". All of these questions and more were met with deflections and justifications.

    I will give her credit in that she always has had a certain amount of concern for me. However now I can see how she is trying to use her charm to convince me to one day settle for her. Actually I find it quite amusing to watch her try this shit with me. She has no clue on how my thinking has changed. I can no longer view a woman as someone to build a life with. Instead I view women as something that destroys wealth and happiness. Truthfully if it was just a matter of cost at the current time I would not be so bothered. Sadly this is not the case, usually you have to still pay them long after they have left you and is fucking someone else. Even if you don't get robbed by the courts and such, they take an emotional and mental toll on you. Women don't just turn billionaires into millionaires, they also destroy the self-esteem and self -confidence of the man they are with. Hiring a woman to indulge your primal urges with is cheap (in the long run) and keeps the bullshit and woes out of your life. However taking on an escort for anything more than a friends with benefits is to take on her troubles plus the thousands of other men she as been with troubles. So say yes to hiring escorts and as always say NO to any woman wanting to leave her toothbrush in your bathroom. Come to think of it, why the fuck does she know where you live in the first place? That's why hotels were invented, to keep men like us safe and sane..
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    Yes her husband is first in her life for everything but her pussy, customers get top priority on that.
    And this is a person who knows better than most that pussy is the main #1 thing that a man wants from a woman. So her husband gets nothing. Or at least: nothing much. The self-centeredness is mind-blowing.

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    Re: Hookers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prisoner View Post
    Yes her husband is first in her life for everything but her pussy

    Does he get to sleep around? I mean, I'd probably demand that as a condition to being married to such a person. But even then, then what's the point of being married at all? Why don't women understand that sex (and children) are the only reasons to get married for a man?


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    I can no longer view a woman as someone to build a life with. Instead I view women as something that destroys wealth and happiness.
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    Re: Hookers

    Pheh... wouldn't use a hooker even if they were legal.. which they aren't.

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    I've used hookers in countries where it was legal, and it was the most honest and straightforward transaction I've ever had between a woman and I. It was legal and legitimate so it wasn't overpriced, (approx 50 Euro for a blow/bang), and we both got exactly what we wanted without useless banter, law enforcement dodging, feminist double-speak, me having to act like a night club douschebag, or strings attached. It was wonderful.

    It was a perfect example of how great the monetary system is, compared to the bartering system, which the feminists and tradcons want to keep sex firmly tied to.

    In countries where prostitution is illegal and currency can no longer be traded for one of the most basic of human desires, we are forced into the bartering system. The bartering system has always been pretty shitty, because most of the time it's hard to trade goods and services perfectly equally. Often times one good or service is much more valuable (18-21 year old vagina) than anothers contribution (18-21 year old mens labor) so in a barter system you have to start making promises, vows and deals to keep the deal on the up and up.

    As we all know here, a womans word is good for about as long as it's being said. Because, you know, feelz. Also goods and services fluctuate constantly in value, so once the 18-21 year old vagina turns into 38 year old roast beef and the 18-21 Mens labor turns into 38 year old business owner, the previous vow/promise turns into a pretty shitty deal (as many of us know from first hand experience.)

    The lifting of the prohibition against prostitution would finally bring the western world into the monetary system... Where you actually get what you pay for, if you overcharge you go out of business, and if you don't deliver on what you were paid to do you can get fired. It keeps everyone honest and keeps the deck equally stacked. There's a reason why as a civilization develops, currency is somehow always reinvented... because it makes cents. (HAHA!!! See what I did there!?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManontheMountain View Post
    In countries where prostitution is illegal and currency can no longer be traded for one of the most basic of human desires, we are forced into the bartering system. The bartering system has always been pretty shitty, because most of the time it's hard to trade goods and services perfectly equally.
    I never thought about linking the barter system to today's sex ways. Taking your idea further, marriage used to be a payment of a kind. The family would pay the husband to marry the daughter (dowry). There is also the history of arranged marriages. With 'love', we now have a de-civilized method of sex.

    I have worked as a salesman. I had many customers try to barter with me instead of pay the marked price. "Does your company not love its customers?" That word... love. Now I know what it means. Love is barter. I guess our economy with its businesses and 'prices' are all so 'love-less' since there is no bartering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Does he get to sleep around? I mean, I'd probably demand that as a condition to being married to such a person. But even then, then what's the point of being married at all? Why don't women understand that sex (and children) are the only reasons to get married for a man?


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    Actually when she was married (she has not been for the last 5 to 10 years) she did let her husband get action on the side. The only thing was that it was only certain friends of hers that he was okayed to bang. In some ways this woman does understand being fair and reasonable. From what I understand these other women usually came over when she had a weekend or longer booking. However she has told me about other women that escort and have husbands that don't get any outside action from different women. She also told me that these kind of arrangements usually don't last. What was surprising to me at first was that most of the time it was the women leaving the marriages and not the men. I was told that basically these women that escort leave the husband because they no longer respect him for allowing her to escort and for not demanding action on the side.
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    The lifting of the prohibition against prostitution would finally bring the western world into the monetary system... Where you actually get what you pay for, if you overcharge you go out of business, and if you don't deliver on what you were paid to do you can get fired. It keeps everyone honest and keeps the deck equally stacked. There's a reason why as a civilization develops, currency is somehow always reinvented... because it makes cents. (HAHA!!! See what I did there!?)
    Agreed. Actually, I forget the website now, but it overlaid currency debasement and inflation and found that periods where monetary value dropped were where all the wars and crises happened. There was a particular overlay on the Roman Empire which made interesting reading. I think that a sound currency is possibly the most important thing a society needs. It's hard to have law and order, employment and peace if there is no foundation to build it on.

    About hookers, there are also those countries where they are not illegal, but where it is discouraged like in the UK. In British TV shows, you can see men arrested by "vice" police and the hilarious thing is that prostitution is not illegal and if you bump into the police in a brothel (although brothels are technically illegal some local councils license them), they will have no interest in you whatsoever - they are just checking paperwork and working to weed out trafficked women.

    It's just very interesting the attitude that is taken in the UK. Obviously, because gynocracy rules (OK!) the authorities need to smear and discourage the practice, but they are not so stupid as to invite the trouble that criminalisation would bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Isn't that amazeballs? The very idea that some dude might want to get to know her and then move on to sex fills her with rage.
    To be fair if a woman is advertising herself as an escort, why would a guy try to get it for free?

    If you walk into a strip club and the girls come with honey tongues to you they don't really like you, they just want your money.
    You should know that, you should know they would (most likely) never come to you that horny in any other place, they do it in strip clubs because they know they have to give you attention so you can give them money. Simple.

    I find it annoying when women in general places try to call attention to themselves, then shoot down guys that don't look like they're loaded, THATS a bitch move.
    But an escort being contacted by guys trying to get free sex, that's a dick move, can't blame her for going ape shit when she realizes the guy has no intention to pay.

    Imagine a guy that paints houses for a living, someone calls him and tries to convince him to paint a house for free, how do you think that would go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    Pheh... wouldn't use a hooker even if they were legal.. which they aren't.
    If you're worried about STDs I've seen several statistics that point hookers as less likely to have STDs compared to "non-hooker" women.
    Simply because they know the risks they always use condoms and they read all about STDs and how to steer clear from them, and today since your "average" woman has slept around with a dozen plus guys before they are 25, maybe raw with possibly a few abortions, I'd frankly take a hooker instead.

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