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    Homeless women

    So, cracked magazine website has a thing on homeless women.

    5 Awful Things You Learn About America As A Homeless Woman | Cracked.com

    Funny how differently so much of it reads through red-pill lenses.

    Most Women On the Streets Are There Because Of Violence
    True. Because women don't wind up on the streets simply as a result of running out of money. This is like saying "far more rich westerners die of bowel cancer than poor people in the third world". As a proportion, fewer men are homeless as a result of violence, drug addiction, and mental illness because they are homeless for other reasons that women tend not to encounter. Divorce rape and PTSD from combat being two examples.

    Homeless Women Are In Constant Fear Of Being Raped
    Sadly true. So much for strong, independent wymminz. They need to be protected and provided for. That's how it is, that how it's always been.

    LGBTQ People Are Vastly More Likely To Become Homeless
    Sadly also true, but I'm not sure what this has to do with women specifically. Yet another example of women colonizing other people's tragedy for victim points.

    No One Donates The Items Women Need
    A problem, because women bleed out of their vaginas every month, and it's unsanitary. Not to mention the infections. Yet another basic fact of life that the "backwards and in high heels" crowd like to gloss over. They are physically frail and subject to health issues that men just plain aren't. There's always something wrong with 'em, they always have some ailment or other.

    Homeless Women Are Essentially Unemployable
    Or to put it another way: without housewife and childrearing duties, or cushy office jobs, women are just plain useless. A drain. A burden. An expense that the productive half of society subsidizes.


    You know, they were a humour and satire magazine, once upon a time.

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    Re: Homeless women

    My sentiment is that if a woman is homeless it is by choice. And women are known to make a series of bad choices so that hints at their lack fo street smarts and basic understanding of how society is ready to bend over backwards to help them.

    Meanwhile men are literally lone wolfs and being homeless as a man isn't a choice but a reality often enough. At least men acknowledge they have to become scrappy if they are homeless, so that choice is there that drives men to rise up.

    Women simply don't that have that drive and yet presented with easier alternatives they choose to be homeless.

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    Re: Homeless women

    A lot of bad decisions go into being homeless. Lost job, drinking, drugs, getting married, even not getting treatment.
    There are services out there that help. Most religious groups have outreach programs. Even in this podunk town I live outside of has a daily breakfast and dinner for the poor and homeless. If you can not find the help then you have not taken the time to look.

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    It's curious that the "strong and independent women", don't care for these homeless ones themselves, but yell to Big Daddy State to do it for them. Typical, no?
    Let's try breaking down that article the male way: Let's fix the damn problems.

    #5: Violence causing women to go homeless
    The article is unclear if it's the trauma of the violence that makes the women unable to handle themselves in society - if so, these women are simply unfit to function within that society. Snowflake syndrom, too fragile for their own good. The solution to that would be a boot camp to A: Clean up their drug use or alcoholism if present, and B: Drill in a healthy amount of assertiveness and personal responsibility. Refusal should be met with a loss of access to social services. IE literally do or die.

    #4: Homeless women in fear of being raped
    Not much to say about this. I guess the "strong and independent woman who needs no man" can't quite hack it at rock bottom. On the street raw muscle power and endurance matter. Women on average are lower in both, especially if you add poor health in the mix. This can't be fixed in an uncontrolled society (which streetlife is). When the closest thing to a white knight is a pimp, well, you're going to be screwed either way. Best option is to make yourself unappealing to the men.

    #3: LQGBT being homeless more often:
    Special snowflakes can't function as well in society. Imagine that. Solution would be to focus less on being different, and more on being useful. But it's not even a point that matches with the article's intent, so I'm not sure why it's even listed.

    #2: Female hygiene product donations
    How did that stuff get handled in times before the existance of pads and tampons? I'm no expert (and have no wish to be) but I'm sure there's some other ways to deal with that. Get creative with an old sponge, some double sided tape and an instruction to just clean that out every day? Might not be as comfortable as a pad, but comfort is a luxury. As for razors, just use scissors. Requires more work, sure, but again, comfort is a luxury you can't afford.

    #1: The employment conundrum
    Interesting that despite "trying", women can't hack it in hard unskilled manual labor jobs, the kind that homeless are dependent on for clawing their way out of the mess of their lives (by fault of their own or not). It's almost as if they're not suited for that. Imagine that. No, the article calls for an example of a "decent" job for a woman, being a paper pusher. For men that would be a MIDDLE CLASS job, not something you'd give to a homeless hack.
    For these women I'd advise seeking employment in low grade food and other service industries. Flippin' burgers, working in a soup kitchen, cleaning office or industrial spaces... stuff like that. These are not glamorous jobs, but they would pay the basic bills.
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: Homeless women

    What is the percentage of female homeless compared to men? Yet THEY should have special care.

    In the age of "equality" and "strong, independent women" yet again we see a call to special measures for their gender. Even in the gutter... Women want special privileges...

    And surprisingly there is no reference to a "homeless gap", where we should have less men homeless to reach parity.

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    Re: Homeless women

    They claimed thirty percent of the homeless are women. Well they sure pulled that figure out a their ass. I been watching homeless people forever, and round here, they are not thirty percent female. Not even close, you'll see hundreds a guys on the street for every genuine homeless female you come across.

    So now they want us to believe there's a homeless women gap to go with the wage gap, and all the other unfair inequalities men heap on them. Well lets feel sorry for a bunch a women, why don't we? Sorry ladies, I'm too busy right now.
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    Re: Homeless women

    I read the article. Yeah, there are some things left out about poor Alice and others.

    "I started making my way back East to be closer to my childhood home, and was raped two days later at a bus depot."
    What I hear in this is that she chooses to be itinerant. The reference about being closer to her childhood home is just a distraction from that. I wish she had said that she moved to where opportunities were.

    First off, the homeless population is about 70 percent male.

    Domestic violence is the number-one reason women end up homeless. One survey found that over 90 percent of all homeless women in shelters have experienced domestic violence at some point in their lives, with many of them attributing their homelessness directly to those events.
    Shelters? We are talking about domestic violence shelters? Those places with roofs that take care of women so they are NOT out on the street? Those places that have been around for years, exclusively for women? So, we group DV shelters in with being out on the street? Ok, just as long as I know that. In 2017, finally in 2017, the first domestic violence shelter for men opened in the USA:

    First Shelter For Male Domestic Violence Opens in Arkansas

    So, I guess we can say that women, the apparent 30 percent that they are, receive a disproportionate share of domestic violence shelter. But, we knew that. The DV shelter gap. Just getting it said.

    Alice says. "There are about two beds for men for every one for a woman."
    And, here we return to regular old non-DV shelter. Interesting way that she portrays the 70/30 ratio. Was it necessary? Is she going for a declaration of inequity? Usually, that's why a numerical comparison is made. Or, is she indicating that beds are allocated or segregated? Does she want more beds designated for women than there are women to place in them? Or, is she saying that women get turned away and men do not? What to think? I think she was just going for the effect of saying it the way she said it. She got a bed, I see.

    Remember what happened to Alice at that bus depot? Can you blame her for being a little uncomfortable being surrounded by men on the set of a horror movie? It's not an unfounded fear: Fully half of homeless women have experienced sexual assault.
    Gotta be careful here. Are they talking about women in a women's shelter, or in a co-ed shelter, or out in the street? I scanned the linked article and found this:

    Given that homeless women are raped more than housed women,
    In context, they were talking about women in shelters versus women who were not. All I am saying is that, from article to article, one has to be careful of definitions. One article will say "homeless" to include shelters, while another article will separate them out. So when one article links to another, they could be exploiting this difference.

    Look, nobody is saying homeless men deserve to spend every night in The House On Haunted Hill while women frolic through gilded mansions. They're simply saying that rape is bad,
    Uh, actually, it is making one and only one statement in defense of homeless men, in a sea of statements about women, is what would be "simply saying". The author did not "simply say" anything about women in this long article here. However, here she did say something simply put, about men. I get annoyed when people switch it around like that when they talk. A pet peeve of mine.

    Alice met many LGBTQ women on the street, most of whom were shunned by society because they couldn't match its beauty standards. That's pretty unfair, considering that we can't, either. "A huge chunk are here because they're gender nonconforming or butch as fuck, and although you can't fire or evict folks for being gay in Massachusetts, you damn sure can find some excuse to do it if you look hard enough," Alice explains. "There are probably more butch lesbians in your average emergency shelter than in most other places I can think of."
    I quoted the entire paragraph above. Look, I myself am homosexual on the Kinsey scale, and I am over 60 which means I went through a period of time with no freedom of expression like shown above, where a wrong move could cost you dearly, and all I can see in the above is a newer generation who prioritize their presentation over their economic well-being. That, motherfucker, is choice. When you choose to be non-conforming in appearance and behavior, you choose consequences, so you gotta choose smartly. Choose by degree, pull back as needed, whatever it takes to keep your job, your roof, all of it. Or, you've chosen economic separation, even homelessness. Choose locally, not based on what you see others getting away with in other cities. It's a rare McDonald's that will let someone with purple hair and nose rings to wait on their customers. Is that your town? I'm sympathetic to those teens under 18 who get kicked out by their parents. I'm less sympathetic to those who seem blind to how to make others see your character and ability by first confronting them with your looks or attitude. It's the new generation, I guess, who cruises through life thinking they will be any way they want and it should make no difference. They make that attitude the basis of their bitching rights. They idealize and makes themselves a test case, and as such there is an element of participation in their plight. Always. Such disabled thinking with this new generation.

    No One Donates The Items Women Need

    You see, people tend to assume most homeless have penises, so they fail to consider the special needs of female types. "Tampons and pads are always a huge one," Alice says.

    Come on, people, open up those wallets.
    She's saying that women are as indifferent as men. I think. Do women say they carry wallets nowadays? Or was this directed to the men. They used to say purses for the ladies. I don't know.

    Well, why don't those lazy lady bums get off their butts and learn to swing a hammer? That's the thing: They've tried. "A few of the girls I hang around with also work construction, but it is definitely harder for them to get in and stay in," she continues. "The whole day labor field is unofficially closed to us, so a lot of us end up having to either find jobs in food service or housekeeping."
    This is crybaby language for saying that each person finds out what they are suited to do. I note that she indicates a few of the girls are able to do construction. Food service or housekeeping? With no tampons and pads? Ew! Oh, wait, she wanted my sympathy catered to each paragraph so how dare I integrate them.
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    Re: Homeless women

    Women receive first dibs on donated cell phones to shelters, ability to stay at a shelter (not just a DV shelter) with no time limit, and free food three times a day. Men in comparison that are homeless have the opportunity to earn one meal a day and for sure one breakfast on Sundays from donated food goods around the community. Shelter is not guaranteed for men as women and children are taken first and men must be kept separately from women and children.

    The majority of homeless are men and yet shelters are designed to cater to a minority aka women. The children that are homeless are instantly scooped up to go directly into foster care system.

    Because of these realities a lot of homeless men have learned to blend in and utilized retail businesses as a means to find shelter. It takes a lot of experience and practice to blend in and to not alert store security to escort you out. But you have to learn to be street smart quickly as a man when you are homeless.

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    Re: Homeless women

    Here is to my cunt ex wife and the so called victim women.



    What about my dreams? Dreams of a loving wife, children, and own home? What about my money? The fucking hundreds of thousands of dollars you screwed me out of only to fucking piss away. You just built me up to bring me down.

    I've been homeless through no fault of my own. My bills were always paid and paid on time. What happened then? My lying cunt of an ex wife had me jailed on false charges. Did anyone care when I had proof she is a lying bitch? Not a fucking soul. Not even my so called friends. Women have every advantage handed to them and also they have shelters to turn to and Uncle Sam to suck their ass. Men have nothing. We are called bums and losers when we are down & out. The county shut down the only Men's shelter in my area. Women? All of theirs are still open. That article mentioned their rag time. Can't they go to planned parenthood just like they do to get the pill so after they fuck everyone they wont get pregnant? That article opened up a lot of old wounds. I have been homeless, slept in bus stations, been jumped by drunks, crackheads, and gangs, waited for McDonalds to throw out food every night then go through their garbage. Here is a secret. McDonalds tosses away all unused food at the end of the night. It might be stale as fuck but its a royalty when you are hungry. I am just hurt by women. They are greedy, lying, selfish, manipulative, controlling, callous cunts and dont ever fall for that NAWALT.


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