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    But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    It sure is nice to see another future Alpha Widow coming to grip with reality and relishing in her Hypergamy. It's sure odd though, she seems rather upset, dunno why....

    He is such a stud, and by golly those beta orbiters are just so boring right?

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    Hey again everyone. Some of you may remember me as the one who found condoms in her husband's truck. Thank you for all of your advice! I should have listened...

    Here we are again. I don't remember if I told you or not that the night I found the condoms I also found a check stub for $5,000.00 in his name that I had no idea about.


    I confronted him about both that same night and I guess my stupid priorities led me toward focus on the condoms issue and somehow I believed his excuses. Kind of. I know I had personally looked through that side door pocket and those nasty things weren't there...anyway, he told me that he had taken out a loan from Title Max to help cover our rent. I asked why so much? He said that 5 grand was the lowest title loan they offered. He also told me that the loan had been paid back, so there was nothing to worry about.


    His bank statement for September came. I dutifully intercepted it and saw that there was a deposit to the account 9/3. There was record of $11,000.00 SPENT that in small purchases that month...no record of repayment. This was the month that he kept telling me we were tight on money and we couldn't afford $1.00 on some tiny bags for my minis (I make and sell dollhouse miniatures).


    Obviously I was a bit upset...rattled...He told me not to worry. I shouldn't have looked at his bank statement, how dare I, the works, you know. Still maintained that he had paid the loan back but this story graduated to the fact that he still had a small amount of interest due, the sum he placed on it was $550.00 or somewhere abouts.


    Fast forward another month. We have been arguing about finances? Had disconnects due to lack of attention to the bills, etc. Had to pay the reconnection fees and spend time on the phone, embarrassing and annoying. I went out to get the mail after going to the gas station and found a letter from who? Title Max! Saying he was late on his payment! Would you believe it? Ha, I was astonished (sarcasm implied)!


    I called title max and asked how much was due. They said $5500.00. So...next lie, right? Right...I called title max this morning and asked what the minimum title loan amount was and it was $500.00.


    The month he blew that 5k he bought himself a customized jersey, a few new outfits, merchandise from MDen, Michigan sports wear store for $328.00. This was all on the bank statements. I found the stuff hidden in his truck. Just wow. This guy lies all the time about everything.


    I've been intercepting his bank statements and keeping track. He spent $100.00, 20 at a time on Game of War. I could go on but I think the point here is clear. One more detail, he proposed to me in March, 2014. We have been dating since July 2012. It is December 2014 and I still have no engagement ring. He says he put down $500.00 on a ring for me, but his bank account never has shown that charge...and he was also looking on Craigslist for rings that cost like 100-150...so I asked him why, he gets angry and defensive. We have been arguing so much lately. I am the kind of person that can forgive a lot but this is kind of ridiculous.


    In Indiana in 2013 he started lying about employment and money to the point that we lost out apartment and had to live in his jeep which led to a dramatic and awful spiral of motel stays and poverty. I had been in school for accounting and got a job at the same time to help with our expenses. I gave up school for more hours at work so at least we would be able to pay our weekly motel rent of $135. He told me at that time that he got a great job at Dick ' s sporting goods as a golf manager. To make a long story short he ended up getting a title loan on the Jeep to pretend he had the income, didn't tell me and when I was at work the vehicle got repossessed. He told me then that it had gotten towed because he didn't have his registration. Then that it's axle snapped trying to rescue it from the impound, then said it was at the shop and his dad was paying for repairs. I don't remember exactly when he finally came clean.


    July 2013 I was pregnant and found out a bunch more lies. We had a bad argument and I told him he should go. He left. I got hit by a car, lost the baby, lost my job, and saw no other options except to go live in a big rig and travel Arkansas (don't ask) and so by August I came to texas to try this relationship again. He said he would never lie to me again. Again.


    Now I sit here thinking, what the hell am I doing? Well, let's face it, I knew what I was walking into. But does that make it okay? Why post all of this personal information on craigslist? Well, the fact is that I don't know anyone here really after an entire year and a half, I feel stuck. I can't go back home, can't rely on friends or family here, and every time we argue about something miniscule (like me "cutting him off" or "assuming" I "know what" he is "going to say") my heart sinks a little further. I can't talk to him, I don't think this will change, but I also don't know what to do. Can't talk to my family for fear that they will judge him if we do stay together. Can't talk to his parents because it would absolutely break their hearts like it has broken mine. Their relationship is very fragile right now so that's out.


    A very long message from someone who needed to talk. Thanks for listening guys.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    At first I thought, OK, some guy likes to take her from behind and her head bangs against the wall a lot. But by the end I thought, this guy might be too good for her.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    You know what I resent? Women who I went out with for YEARS who at the end were either so combative over petty things or in one case, one got caught cheating. In either case, an example of the woman who thought she could do better than me?

    And you know what happened to those all-of-a-sudden-smug former girlfriends who were freed up to get greener pastures? They fell on their face and I laughed. (Maybe I should not have said "freed up." More like a polar opposite of Dr Laura's "Ten Things A Woman Must Do To Keep Their Men Happy" or whatever it was exactly called. (Boy, did that book piss off all of those unique snowflakes out there!)

    Here's the problem: women overrate their SMV and give it a year or two, they all but start shitting all over a love at their TRUE SMV level. As if they are REALLY gonna do any better. The hamster is now working overtime there!

    I don't know about the alpha widow thing. Women are bad enough as is. I don't know if a man guessing where a woman's mind must be is always true. I would LIKE TO THINK that some of those chicks got sick of hoping for a guy out of their league got tired of that and came to appreciate that an average guy versus a hawt guy appreciates them. But, evidence shows otherwise perhaps.

    Frankly, while it looks good on paper, I would hope this Alpha Widow theory is false. Now don't get me wrong, I've had chicks less than my level treat me as if they were somehow better.

    In cases like those, I always theorized that those chicks were dumb enough to assume that they were hawt-guy-worthy thus the only reason they weren't treating me like anything better than an "okay boyfriend" or an FWB.

    Oh, I can rant about this both ways. Either way I have not got the answer. But, I cannot lie. I do laugh my ass off when deluded wanna be princesses run right into the FIST of reality.

    I just think, "GOOD, you got what you deserved you deluded self-important moron!"
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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    I just think, "GOOD, you got what you deserved you deluded self-important moron!"
    That's the nuts and bolts of what I got from this stupid whores diatribe....

    She got EXACTLY what she wanted, and is paying for it dearly and repeatedly. She could have had a dozen decent guys, but that would be "boring" and the miserable life she is living isn't, so so she stays with this loser that Hypergamy say's is an "alpha" or as close to one as she will ever get.

    The worst part is a dozen Captain save a ho's will clamor to her... She will use them up... Then run back to Johnny fuck up for more misery.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Like I said, they run into that FIST of reality of overrating one's self enough to come back crawling (only for a wee or month or 3 or whatever).

    NO ONE likes a legend in their own mind! They get theirs soon enough. Then they wonder why I am all but saying, "just like you did to me, you are JUST another piece of ass till I get a BETTER one."

    They can SURE dish it. But, oh wow, they cannot take it themselves without getting a little pissed off about it for a few months, now, can they?!

    As John Lennon said, "Instant Karma is gonna get you!..."
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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    LMAO. "The world is a comedy to those that think"..... With apologies to the original quote, it is a nightmare for those who decide by instinctual feeling. As we are on the right side of that divide, all I can say is this story gave me a huge laugh and now it's time to call it a night.

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    "His bank statement for September came. I dutifully intercepted it and saw that there was a deposit to the account 9/3. There was record of $11,000.00 SPENT that in small purchases that month...no record of repayment. This was the month that he kept telling me we were tight on money and we couldn't afford $1.00 on some tiny bags for my minis (I make and sell dollhouse miniatures). "

    Pay close attention, lurkers . When inviting women into your personal space, they WILL snoop through your shit. Including your mail, which includes juicy financial details like credit card statements, bank account records, phone bills,etc.It doesnt take much either- say you tell cupcake you're a clerk when you're actually the section manager.

    Smart move, keeping your true worth away from cupcake. But guess what-your company one day sends out the quarterly 401K statement, and she got a hold of it by 'intercepting' your mail and now knows your TRUE income.

    Bad news.

    So, when you're inviting a girl over or she makes her way in, make sure ALL financial data is secured or shredded. A royal pain in the ass, that -but all it takes is one slip of mail and she's got you by the short ones.

    And may god , buddha, and allah save you if she calls up your bank for information. "hey, uhh, Mr Octavian needs to add me as an authorized user on bank account XXY...yeah I'm his wife,yadda yadda...."




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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    The month he blew that 5k he bought himself a customized jersey, a few new outfits, merchandise from MDen, Michigan sports wear store for $328.00.
    Manwhore.

    I'd give her the same advice I'd give a man: "You have to decide if you want to and can keep a personal whore", but she doesn't deserve it.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Personally I think they sound like they're made for each other, complementary forms of narcissism. A complete pair of Assholes that will think nothing of trampling over anyone elses lives so she can get the drama and he can get all the sports clothing he can. Looks like idiots attract.

    She sees all this shit going down after 'intercepting' his mail and then has an oops! pregnancy. Let me guess " So that if it does end, there will always be a part of them united in this world" or some such garabage. Then she gets hit by a car.......hmmmmm was the alpha asshole driving it most probably!!!

    hearty laughter at this one.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cro-Magnon View Post
    She sees all this shit going down after 'intercepting' his mail and then has an oops! pregnancy. .
    That's what really blew my mind....

    The dumb bitch KNOWS and had a trail of evidence that the loser is lying and blowing money yet she stays and gets knocked up ??

    That isn't the action of a sane person, it's not a wise or even rational choice, but serious idiocy!

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    The only thing a woman fears with a cheating husband is loss of revenue.

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaiah4:1 View Post
    The only thing a woman fears with a cheating husband is loss of revenue.
    Ain't that the truth.

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    I got hit by a car, lost the baby, lost my job, and saw no other options except to go live in a big rig and travel Arkansas (don't ask)
    LMAO!!! A whorehouse on 18 wheels? WTFF?
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    I read the story about 18-wheeler-nowadays woman too fast last night without realizing she lost the kid. I would not wish that upon my worst enemy or worst ex-gf.

    So I deleted one of my posts seeing it in a different light with the miscarriage.

    That being said, I can only have as much sympathy for her as I can did for myself where I picked the wrong girlfriend.And I did not feel too sorry for myself having made the wrong choice.

    So she's going through the aftermath I did of picking the wrong person. She's just gonna have to solider on past her mistake like I did with mine. So she had to relocate. I did that too. She'll be better for it. At least she won't be tempted to share her life with a half-assed partner again.

    Whether she knows it or not, relocation will keep her from being tempted to go back to a not-so-great-at-the-end-there lover.

    It sure inadvertently helped me that way years ago.
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    Why have I got the Eagles' Life in the fast lane playing in my head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    You know what I resent? Women who I went out with for YEARS who at the end were either so combative over petty things or in one case, one got caught cheating. In either case, an example of the woman who thought she could do better than me?

    And you know what happened to those all-of-a-sudden-smug former girlfriends who were freed up to get greener pastures? They fell on their face and I laughed. (Maybe I should not have said "freed up." More like a polar opposite of Dr Laura's "Ten Things A Woman Must Do To Keep Their Men Happy" or whatever it was exactly called. (Boy, did that book piss off all of those unique snowflakes out there!)

    Here's the problem: women overrate their SMV and give it a year or two, they all but start shitting all over a love at their TRUE SMV level. As if they are REALLY gonna do any better. The hamster is now working overtime there!

    I don't know about the alpha widow thing. Women are bad enough as is. I don't know if a man guessing where a woman's mind must be is always true. I would LIKE TO THINK that some of those chicks got sick of hoping for a guy out of their league got tired of that and came to appreciate that an average guy versus a hawt guy appreciates them. But, evidence shows otherwise perhaps.

    Frankly, while it looks good on paper, I would hope this Alpha Widow theory is false. Now don't get me wrong, I've had chicks less than my level treat me as if they were somehow better.

    In cases like those, I always theorized that those chicks were dumb enough to assume that they were hawt-guy-worthy thus the only reason they weren't treating me like anything better than an "okay boyfriend" or an FWB.

    Oh, I can rant about this both ways. Either way I have not got the answer. But, I cannot lie. I do laugh my ass off when deluded wanna be princesses run right into the FIST of reality.

    I just think, "GOOD, you got what you deserved you deluded self-important moron!"
    months of reading comments like these in the forums helps me understand the ugly old women who still have life in their eyes, but faces are falling off. i have no pity, and see a disgusting person.

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    alphas are animals. let them lose their souls.
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    I don't know who you are or what you want.
    if it's a divorce you're looking for, I can tell you I don't have money.
    what I do have is a particular set of skills. skills I have acquired over a very long career (of ghosting and going my own way). skills that make me a nightmare for people like you (broads).
    if you let feminism go now, that will be the end of it. I will not not look for you, I will not not pursue you.
    but if you don't...

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    looks like even "the best" might become "not good enough" at some point....
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    I said it once and I'll say it until I'm in the damn ground...........WOMEN ARE NEVER WRONG!


    I know a girl that is in her mid 30s , 4 kids, ex boyfriend/baby daddy drama, etc. She will tell you what a catch she is. This bitch literally thinks she is all that. What guy in his right mind would put up with 4 kids(by different men no less), the exes still in the picture , etc. A fucking idiot. I find it funny that one of the exes still kisses her ass and she has a PFA on him but she won't enforce it because she will lose the child support if he is in jail. Also, if she is so fucking great then why does every guy cheat on her? The last guy was a real winner. He literally would post ads on the internet of himself in drag looking for other men. I also love how this bitch says she won't date a guy with bad credit but yet all her credit cards are maxed out. Women are fucking retarded I tell ya!

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    Re: But.. But... He's an Alpha male...

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I said it once and I'll say it until I'm in the damn ground...........WOMEN ARE NEVER WRONG!


    I know a girl that is in her mid 30s , 4 kids, ex boyfriend/baby daddy drama, etc. She will tell you what a catch she is. This bitch literally thinks she is all that. What guy in his right mind would put up with 4 kids(by different men no less), the exes still in the picture , etc. A fucking idiot. I find it funny that one of the exes still kisses her ass and she has a PFA on him but she won't enforce it because she will lose the child support if he is in jail. Also, if she is so fucking great then why does every guy cheat on her? The last guy was a real winner. He literally would post ads on the internet of himself in drag looking for other men. I also love how this bitch says she won't date a guy with bad credit but yet all her credit cards are maxed out. Women are fucking retarded I tell ya!
    Maybe he was looking for MGTOWs , alright ?
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