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    HELP! I am having red pill rage

    I used to be a mangina male feminist, I woke up but still BP.
    I did watch Sandman's videos but only as anti-feminist. I live in a Middle Eastern country, the law favors men but socially and romantically women are doing way better.
    I got purple pilled, but only thought that legistlated gynocentrism only applies to the west.
    I have zero experience with females, but I talked to many men who are or were in relations, I took the red pilland came to the conclusion that AWALT are entitled, here men have to pay for everything and if a guy has no real estate property here, then good luck finding a wife/gf, but here women offer nothing in return only sex and romantic attention. Even if a woman has a job, it is still her man's responsibility to pay the bills,taxes and other basic needs, and she gets to keep the money she makes to herself or spend it on useless shit like shopping.
    Lebanon doesn't follow sharia, and the judges are not being sympathetic to honor killings.
    You can say that Lebanon is the most feminized/gynocentric Arabic Speaking country.
    Most schools I attended were mixed, only high school was an all boys high school. Even school girls are entitled bitches. I am attending an American style college, and the college girls are extremely entitled and AWALT.
    I am a virgin, prostitution is illegal where I live, but I don't think sex is worth it, porn is legal.
    I am focusing on improving my self, like working out 6 times a week and eating healthy to get rid of my beer belly for medical reasons (I am in my early 20s), I quit drinking because booze hinders my progress.
    The gym is making me feel more confident.
    I deactivated my facebook account, I used to post every day just to get likes or seek validation to boost my ego, but I thought about it, social media is not just useless but problematic and kills confidence just a popularity contest.
    I am slowly not giving a fuck about what others think, and putting the vagina on the pedestal is a waste of time.
    But I am having red pill rage, I feel angry at the world, media, society, schools, and Disney Princesses for lying to me. They lied to me, I wasted all my energy white knighting for hot girls especially the girl who I still have oneitis.( My rage is quite similar when I left Islam to atheism.)
    Allow me to get paranoid here, I think the status-quo run by the banking & corporate elite socially engineered us to enslave humanity and cause chaos.
    I need help to alleviate my anger.
    Thanks in advance.
    The System is not broken, it was built this way
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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Most of us hate the system to some degree LM, but it don't help. The blue pill world was here before we were born, and unless we all die at once, it will be here after we're gone. Hating on something like that's a waste of time and energy. Change it if ya can, avoid it when you can't, and call it a day.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW View Post
    The System is not broken, it was built this way
    That is the money quote. Good job coming to that realization. Now you need to take the time it takes to grieve the death of the illusions which society fostered into you. What I tell my sons is the truth will set you free; you will not like the truth, and it will suck, but you will be free.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    The sex isn't that great, focus on other things like improving yourself. You might want to pursue a hobby.
    Deprogramming yourself takes time and it is a very painful process, especially if you plan to do it alone.
    Be forgiving of yourself and keep pressing on, don't let past mistakes affect you.

    Anger is a very healthy emotion, society tries to shame or define men as 'rational' or 'calm' to control them, you need a healthy outlet for your anger (like the gym you currently go to) and being in touch with your emotion is a good thing.

    You found the red pill much earlier than I did, so congratulate yourself for that at least.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    I struggle with rage also, and long before I found MGTOW and "red pill". It must have cost me literally weeks of my life wasted due to insomnia. One thing that helped was the book The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. I have read it several times and just a few pages really helps to calm me down and realize that nothing it actually worth getting angry about (which is the truth).

    I found this somewhere else and I think you might like to read it. I think it was posted on reddit originally (although I don't like the reddit MGTOW community, many of those guys are PUA refugees and still lust after women). But this is awesome. It is called The World Wants You To Fail.

    Human beings are story telling creatures. We’re reared on milk and stories. The narratives of our youth become who we are and what we believe.

    And herein lies a sort of developmental issue for men. One that will be discussed here. Because humans don’t tell their sons stories about the world. We tell them stories about the way we want the world to be.

    So, for all their profundity and magic, stories give us an unrealistic sense of the natural buoyancy of a good man’s life. As we grow into boyhood, the tales we imbibe teach us that the rise of a fine man is inevitable, or that the intrinsic virtue of a man on the correct team will automatically lend him the support of all fellow members of that team. We inculcate the flower of our male youth with the myth that being good comes with a reward. That he, just like any little girl, is valuable for who he is on in the inside. We are taught that we carry intrinsic value within us.

    But we grow up into men. Maybe it is the day we get our draft cards in the mail and the women don’t (despite hearing how women are on the losing side of equality our whole lives). Or we wake up to a news headline reading “500 killed, including three women” in an international newspaper. However it happens, a man who pays attention will one day realize that the world doesn’t give a shit about him— not in any real sense anyway, and absolutely not (as he’s been taught) in direct proportion to how “good” he is, or “what’s on the inside” of him.

    Quickly after there comes a point then where an enlightened man must stare into a fact of life that has been kept from him (if he was sheltered): that life for him is adversarial in nature, and he must take an adversarial stance within it in order to succeed as a creature.

    He awakens one morning and the world quietly closes its gate to him, whispering in his ear “you are only worth what you can earn— what you can build, create, discover, or kill. You are our tool and our weapon, expendable for the greater good. Come, find your place as a simple cog in the machine.”

    In short, the world wants him to fail by default. It wants his life to be unremarkable. To be spent supporting others. To be drowned in sweet, romantic thinking while he polishes ball bearings. To be the base, the lowest rung of the grand pyramid scheme that is society.

    And make no mistake, there are multiple machinations that will almost certainly benefit from your failure: everything from genetics, to capitalism, to divorce court, to warfare – they are all built on the supposition that millions and millions of men need to fail in order for a few privileged people at the top to succeed – that you have to “crack a few eggs to make an omelette.” And you, young man, look like a perfect, freshly laid egg…quite ready for the frying pan. Collect your rifle and your bible to the right…

    No, it isn’t a grand conspiracy— these mysterious mechanisms that sow salt over every seed you plant—it is nothing other than the finite nature of reality which is responsible. It is our animal nature: the same thing that sees one alpha at the top of a troop of monkeys while thin, scraggly young males poke at the outskirts, starving and desperate. In a limited world, there are only limited spots for success. If everyone is alpha then no one is. Without all the failures, the successes could never happen.

    How many men cast out on a dinky raft, only to end up in the guts of some bull shark, before the first man landed on the coast of Hawaii?
    How many men died in horrible ways to release the budding United States from colonial rule? Torn to pieces by cannon balls or impaled on bayonettes? Holding their guts in their 18 year old hands because some recruitment officer filled their heads with abstract concepts like “freedom”.

    How many men are living lives of quiet desperation RIGHT THIS MINUTE, grinding out livings for a world too concerned with minor female inconveniences to ever acknowledge their sacrifice?

    Our whole economic system is built on this principle. We need men to spend their lives delivering our dry-cleaning, frying our hash browns, serving us coffee. We want those people to keep their dreams small because we need them there, propping us up. So, we give them religion, we give them television, we give them junk food, alcohol….we give them the bullshit concept of “true love”.

    Because relationships and sex work precisely the same way. Women use supplicating, inferior men to bolster their self-esteem, and then cherry pick the strongest, most virile mate from the pile of genetic spam. They don’t care about you. They don’t give a fuck “what is inside”, or how “nice” you are, or what a good person your mother thinks you are.

    They don’t care how much effort you’ve put into the relationship. You might be useful to buy her things, move her couch on Saturday, or act as a shoulder to cry on when the biker she is dating doesn’t call her back, but that’s it. She, like all else under nature, wants you to fail so she can eliminate you as a sexual choice but still reap the benefits of your support. She wants you to orbit, to be a dull foil that reflects the exceptional nature of the man she eventually picks.

    Not only does she want you to fail, but she, and anyone else in society who can’t fend for themselves have a vested interest in you not even understanding the adversarial nature of being alive.

    Remember those stories we tell our young sons? You better believe that the girl who rejected you in high school for “not being tall enough” while getting railed by the whole football team now teaches her male children stories of true love, romance, and “what’s on the inside that counts”. Weaker people will always attempt to use emotional manipulation to supplant you where their own merit fails. They will shame you for being adversarial in nature while they themselves seek to use your surrendered corpse to climb higher.

    Affirmative action, feminism, gender quotas, the false wage gap – these are all emotional manipulations created on large scale, en mass, by weaker, merit lacking individuals in an attempt to climb over the people who are succeeding by weaponizing guilt, lies, and an appeal to a sense of fairness that they don’t intend to impart themselves once they have pulled you under them.

    Tinfoil hat talk? Who knows how deep the rabbit hole really goes, but listen: Anything you do in life will have a conspiracy of agents and factors working against you.

    The appropriate response to this is not sadness or depression. Not at all. The appropriate response to this knowledge is an aggressive cultivation of an extreme sense of individualism, self-reliance, and grit.

    The good news:

    All of this is not to say that true human altruism doesn’t exist. We are tribal, after all. Common goals can unite us, shared loves or hatred, unified passions and philosophies.

    Now that you’ve adopted this cynicism, you’ll be prepared to understand what a big deal it is when you are actually gifted with that rare milk of human kindness. Because it does exist as the exception to the rule.

    Remember that this, and other Redpill knowledge, is not meant to be dark and oppressive. On the contrary, it is meant to free you up from the emotional expectation of fairness, to keep you from cursing the world, from falling deep into apathy, misanthropy, and bitterness as a result of the behavior of mankind. The point is to help you see yourself as an agent acting on the world, understanding the lopsided rules and figuring out how to win, rather than being a passive, deluded recipient of the world’s inevitable slings and arrows.

    To repeat something that has been explained before: when a snake bites us, we don’t question ourselves and our value. We don’t berate the snake and spend nights talking about the nerve of the snake and fall into a depression over the nature of snakes. Because in that situation, we went into it with the knowledge of what a snake is and just how it operates. We appreciate our luck when we encounter snakes that don’t bite us, but we learn to expect that many snakes will bite and should be dealt with accordingly.

    TL/DR: Reality is liberating. The world, in one sweeping generalization, wants you to fail. Be prepared to understand that life, for men, is a struggle to find meaning against a backdrop that wants to inject cheap, artificial value into your life so that you will continue to pull the plow. Realize it, adapt to it, and be prepared to storm the battlements and to fight tooth and nail for all you get.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW View Post
    I am having red pill rage, I feel angry at the world, media, society, schools, and Disney Princesses for lying to me. They lied to me, I wasted all my energy white knighting for hot girls especially the girl who I still have oneitis.
    I'll be honest, once you swallow the RedPill the sense of anger and frustration can seem unending and insurmountable, but in most of us it gradually dies down to a more background level annoyance/irritation with the world in general.

    As an agnostic/atheist myself I eschew religious practice, but I have found that using secular contemplation techniques useful in controlling anger and inducing a measurable state of calmness.

    ​Centering is one of the simplest and most common forms of contemplative practice.

    The “center” refers to a relaxed yet focused state of mind. Centering practice is especially helpful in the midst of strong emotional states such as excitement or anxiety, and is often used by athletes, public speakers, actors, and anyone who wants to feel stable and prepared before a potentially stressful event.Anything that helps you feel tranquil and aware can become your centering practice.

    Common Centering Methods:
    - Count numbers, such as counting down from 10 to dissipate anger
    - Repeat a word or phrase, such as a prayer or affirmation
    - Smile and relaxing your body
    - Go for a walk; get out into a different environment
    - Stretch
    - Close your eyes and breathe deeply
    - Concentrate on breathing, such as breathing out for a count of 8 and in for a count of 4
    - Count your breaths
    - Doodle or write
    - Carry or place near yourself a visual reminder to stay centered, such as a quote or image
    - Use sound to bring yourself back to your center. Periodically ring a bell, chime, or other gentle reminder.

    Persistence is an important aspect of centering practice. Purposefully centering yourself many times throughout the day, even when you are not feeling particularly emotional or in need of centering, will help to deepen your practice.

    Centering | The Center for Contemplative Mind in Society
    For me, the simple technique of sitting upright with hands on my lap, closing my eyes and breathing slowly, but deeply in and out until my anger subsides works best, but your mileage may vary. When I open my eyes afterwards I sometimes feel a little lightheaded, but this is perfectly natural (to do with oxygen levels from the breathing technique), but this is also why sitting down is recommended.

    It's surprising how effective it can be, but it's not magical, it's just the bodies natural psychosomatic response.

    The key thing is to remember that the world is the way it is and cannot easily be changed, so getting angry is just a waste of time and energy (I am well aware that this sounds trite, but it is also very true).

    Some people find reciting the following (one of many variations) as a personal affirmation helps:
    Let me find the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference
    I hope this helps.
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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    At least you didn't wake up in your 40's after having gotten married with children. Count yourself as fortunate.

    The anger will subside. Give it some time.

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    Hey kid ! You said you are starting to stop giving shits about what others think .

    Let me help you a little bit with this . They think and talk shit about you no matter who you are or what you do behind your back 100% . And as i said before - you have zero friends .

    If you think that someone thinks and talks nice about you somewhere in the world - you are fooling yourself .

    Even i think you are a straight shmuck . You see

    And ... Do not work out 6 days a week unless you are a professional world class athlete . You will not be able to handle this for long and it will do more damage than good . Do everything little by little and if you think you can reach your goals in a few months you are again fooling yourself . You wont . There is no goals only a process that will take your whole life .

    It will take years .

    Even to learn to make nice pancakes takes years of practice .


    And i would love to be red pill mad like you ! Its like free steroid !!! When you want to beat people !!! Ahhh what a life !

    Cheers sharia beer mate !
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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Hey kid ! You said you are starting to stop giving shits about what others think .

    Let me help you a little bit with this . They think and talk shit about you no matter who you are or what you do behind your back 100% . And as i said before - you have zero friends .

    If you think that someone thinks and talks nice about you somewhere in the world - you are fooling yourself .

    Even i think you are a straight shmuck . You see

    And ... Do not work out 6 days a week unless you are a professional world class athlete . You will not be able to handle this for long and it will do more damage than good . Do everything little by little and if you think you can reach your goals in a few months you are again fooling yourself . You wont . There is no goals only a process that will take your whole life .

    It will take years .

    Even to learn to make nice pancakes takes years of practice .


    And i would love to be red pill mad like you ! Its like free steroid !!! When you want to beat people !!! Ahhh what a life !

    Cheers sharia beer mate !
    The best thing is to stop giving a shit about what others think and do. I learned that and my life has been way better. People will always talk shit on you no matter what. I use to be a very giving person. The stupid type that would help anyone out. Once I stopped that, I saw so much anger and hate towards me. Found out who my true friends were. It's your life and live it how you want and for you only.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    The best thing is to stop giving a shit about what others think and do. I learned that and my life has been way better. People will always talk shit on you no matter what. I use to be a very giving person. The stupid type that would help anyone out. Once I stopped that, I saw so much anger and hate towards me. Found out who my true friends were. It's your life and live it how you want and for you only.
    There are good people out there who would help if they could. Thanks to a lot of hard work and some luck, I know more than my share.

    Trouble is, most people hold back. A lot of guys wont help because they see other men as competition. They may, or may not burn you if given the chance. Others may not wish you any harm, but still be unwilling to share any of their hard won secrets. Then there's them
    who for whatever reason just like being dicks. Don't waste your time, you ain't getting anything out of that crowd.

    So take what you can from society, but don't expect much. Sooner or later you'll find some good people. Try to do them right when it happens. You wont find many.
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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    As far as the red pill rage goes, think of all the things in your past that once really angered you, and now don't.

    Ultimately the best treatment for all hot emotions is to wait them out. They all pass of their own accord. The trick is to not respond in any way that hurts.

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    It took me about 7 or 8 years for my rage to even start subsiding. I still get way too angry about political stuff, but as far as the red pill rage goes, I think it's over. What helps the most is really focusing on my priorities in life. I'm trying to break into the music industry, and that type of career would absolutely get ruined by marriage and kids. I just love making music too much to fuck it up with some control freak girlfriend or wife. I figured out that marriage is a scam pretty early in life, but for a while I still wanted LTRs. But now I feel differently, not gonna even date or try to get laid until I get a vasectomy, that's how paranoid I am. NO woman is gonna fuck up my career, period.

    You're not missing anything from LTRs, because the sex always gets stale eventually anyway. You're basically just giving away your time, money, and attention for a roll of the dice that maybe you'll get laid today. When's the last time a woman told you something and you thought "damn that's profound". Never. Hit it and quit it, if you have the skillset. That's something I gotta work on, but I do have the capacity to be really cold and drop people with no second thought if they burn me.

    You just have to look at the big picture. There's so much to experience in life, and women are set on squashing it when you get involved with them, because they don't understand the male drive for adventure, mastery, and wisdom. Complacency is their sweet spot, even for the "YOLO backpacking across Europe" types, because they're just doing it for that exotic dick. They don't give a shit about travel per se, it's just that "learn, laugh, love" phoney inspirational quote on a facebook status update bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    It took me about 7 or 8 years for my rage to even start subsiding. I still get way too angry about political stuff, but as far as the red pill rage goes, I think it's over. What helps the most is really focusing on my priorities in life. I'm trying to break into the music industry, and that type of career would absolutely get ruined by marriage and kids. I just love making music too much to fuck it up with some control freak girlfriend or wife. I figured out that marriage is a scam pretty early in life, but for a while I still wanted LTRs. But now I feel differently, not gonna even date or try to get laid until I get a vasectomy, that's how paranoid I am. NO woman is gonna fuck up my career, period.

    You're not missing anything from LTRs, because the sex always gets stale eventually anyway. You're basically just giving away your time, money, and attention for a roll of the dice that maybe you'll get laid today. When's the last time a woman told you something and you thought "damn that's profound". Never. Hit it and quit it, if you have the skillset. That's something I gotta work on, but I do have the capacity to be really cold and drop people with no second thought if they burn me.

    You just have to look at the big picture. There's so much to experience in life, and women are set on squashing it when you get involved with them, because they don't understand the male drive for adventure, mastery, and wisdom. Complacency is their sweet spot, even for the "YOLO backpacking across Europe" types, because they're just doing it for that exotic dick. They don't give a shit about travel per se, it's just that "learn, laugh, love" phoney inspirational quote on a facebook status update bullshit.
    Either gimme some to listen or it aint happening .

    If you are not a really really rich kid its not gonna work out and we both know it . Its not only rich kids performing ( how it used to be 15 years ago ) but they also write lyrics and do music nowadays .

    You have less than zero chances to break in to that circle .

    Ed Sheeran , that fattie with her falcete ... thats modern music for you and you cant beat that garbage . Especially Ed Sheeran i was writing better songs in 3rd grade ...

    They would never ever get on big stage or in videos ever ! But since they are kids of millionaires ...

    And to be small time street busker is not what you want in this life .
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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    The best thing is to stop giving a shit about what others think and do. I learned that and my life has been way better. People will always talk shit on you no matter what. I use to be a very giving person. The stupid type that would help anyone out. Once I stopped that, I saw so much anger and hate towards me. Found out who my true friends were. It's your life and live it how you want and for you only.
    Nobody knows who their true friends are these days. So I give without expecting anything in return. The pay it forward method.

    To me the best method and practice is to stop giving a shit about money and status or what anyone thinks of me or my ideas.
    Your mileage may vary.

    Men who have been financially disadvantaged for decades have contributed far more to the state of the art than mere billionaires.
    They do it at their own expense to feel free and extend the handshake of freedom to others who want the same thing. Very often, these
    men require little money, only time to pursue their hobbies and interests and find solace in their own way to go.

    I don't get paid to write here. The great Jagrmeister paid it forward for all of us to say what we have to say here for the benefit of all MGTOW.
    I salute him.

    This model works well when the one contributing considers his own time and talent spent correctly in any effort on his own behalf and on behalf of others,
    without regard to ego and social status.

    Personal gain is a secondary objective subdued by his own primary purpose for being. Overall, this site seems to me to be one where one's
    own grievances can be aired and cured, but only by other men who have experienced the same tribulations.

    Sometimes, rage is appropriate. Sometimes fighting occurs. The cure is always the same: Shared experience.
    Once we learn to heal each other and ourselves, all fighting and rage is no longer necessary because we realize that
    working together for the freedom and collaborative effort of all men makes a planet better.

    I might be considered crazy to suggest such an idea, but who cares?
    I am only a mere messenger.

    Just like anyone else here.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    It seems natural that after choking down the red pill, there will be a LOT of anger, and it's directed in a lot of directions. There is plenty to be angry about.

    What helped me immensely is realizing that I was angry at ME more than I was angry at anything or anybody else. I was angry that I was blinded by silly crap that didn't matter. I was angry that for years I had let the world tell me who I was or should be. I was angry that I kept making the same mistakes over and over. I was angry because I wasn't living up to the standards I like to claim I hold myself to.

    I got over the anger by forgiving myself, first and foremost. I eventually forgave every woman I had been involved with or had been burned by (and by forgive, I don't mean I was saying "it's okay you were a Cee U Next Tuesday:, but more along the lines of "I no longer wish to choke the life out of you with my bare hands as you claw at me fighting for your life"). Now I can sit back and just enjoy the fireworks as other guys I know jump like circus poodles through every hoop set before them by every woman they encounter. I "could" educate them, but that's really not much fun. Besides, I had to learn my lessons the hard way. They can too, and while they learn them, I get some chuckles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonitus View Post
    Now I can sit back and just enjoy the fireworks as other guys I know jump like circus poodles through every hoop set before them by every woman they encounter. I "could" educate them, but that's really not much fun. Besides, I had to learn my lessons the hard way. They can too, and while they learn them, I get some chuckles.
    I would like to comment on the above. I would like to educate those guys jumping through the hoops like poodles, and so should you. The fewer men jumping through the hoops for substandard women (and almost all of them are in the west), the fewer entitled land whale bitches we will all have to deal with. So, it really is enlightened self-interest. However, before you start to engage in this activity, know that few to none of the men jumping through the hoops are willing to listen. Your words will fall primarily on deaf ears. It is a long process to gain the judgment to discern the moment a man is ready to listen. And let me say that often that moment is fleeting. When you come across such a man (or, increasingly, boy) at that right moment, do all that you can to share the bitter lessons you have learned. They will still have to go through some rough miles to gain the full red pill, but why not put them on the path the best you can.

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    Re: HELP! I am having red pill rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    I would like to comment on the above. I would like to educate those guys jumping through the hoops like poodles, and so should you. The fewer men jumping through the hoops for substandard women (and almost all of them are in the west), the fewer entitled land whale bitches we will all have to deal with. So, it really is enlightened self-interest. However, before you start to engage in this activity, know that few to none of the men jumping through the hoops are willing to listen. Your words will fall primarily on deaf ears. It is a long process to gain the judgment to discern the moment a man is ready to listen. And let me say that often that moment is fleeting. When you come across such a man (or, increasingly, boy) at that right moment, do all that you can to share the bitter lessons you have learned. They will still have to go through some rough miles to gain the full red pill, but why not put them on the path the best you can.
    I'll pass on educating them. For all the shit thrown at me growing up and through most of my adult life where "men" have made ignorant comments and called me all manner of hurtful and cruel things - payback is a bitch. They can learn their lessons the hard way and endure all the emotional and financial suffering they've brought upon themselves through their choices. For all the times I've been accused of being a "fag" because I am not slave to sexual desire - they can experience the "joy" of one minute thinking themselves to be the "alpha male" then discovering the next that their sweetie has cuckolded them, and they can endure that kind of crushing hurt.

    It's not my job nor responsibility to teach them. They wouldn't lift a finger for me, so the "courtesy" is extended back to them.

    *cracks a beer* cheers, you bunch of hen-pecked, cuckolded, wanna-be tough-guy circus poodles!


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