Thread: Harvey Weinstein’s Last Campaign - 140 Years in Prison for Sexual Harassment?

" . . . The allegations set off a movement whose impact few could have imagined. On October 15th, the actress Alyssa Milano tweeted, “If you’ve been sexually harassed or assaulted write ‘me too’ as a reply to this tweet.” Seventeen thousand women would ultimately respond—effectively joining a “me too” movement that had been founded a decade earlier, by the activist Tarana Burke. By the end of October, more than eighty women had claimed that Weinstein had sexually assaulted them, a figure that would eventually rise to more than a hundred.

But on October 5, 2017, the front-page headline of the New York Times read “sexual misconduct claims trail a hollywood mogul.” The Times investigation, by Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, highlighted thirty years’ worth of “previously undisclosed allegations” against Weinstein. For the first time, women had gone on the record to share their experiences of Weinstein’s sexual abuse—the actress Ashley Judd, an assistant named Emily Nestor, a literary scout named Lauren O’Connor. Kantor and Twohey reported that Weinstein “enforced a code of silence” by insuring that accusers signed nondisclosure agreements, and that employees signed contracts prohibiting them from criticizing the company or its leaders. Five days later, Ronan Farrow published the first in a series of reported pieces about Weinstein in this magazine. Thirteen women, including the actresses Asia Argento, Mira Sorvino, and Rosanna Arquette, asserted that Weinstein had sexually assaulted or harassed them. Three of the women told Farrow that he’d raped them. Four actresses said that they suspected Weinstein of working to ruin their careers after they rejected his advances . . . "
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-last-campaign


Comments: How to tell if you are a sexual harasser or not - if you look like Brad Pitt, a hawt 5 percent handsome movie actor dude, what you do is not sexual harassment, it is romantic. If you look like Harvey, a fat ugly dude who is a movie company director, it is sexual harassment . . . Women slept with Harvey on the casting couch to star in his movies, then claimed sexual harassment later for more $$$.

On the eve of Independence Day in America, I content myself with the knowledge that one of my forefathers probably shot one of Spooky's forefathers.

I'm out. Peace.
- Owen, 07.03.2022

Some years ago, someone wrote an open letter about this and I simply cannot find it on line anymore. In it, he pointed out a truth, that Harvey was indeed a pig, what he did was wrong and he should be punished for it. I agree. From what I read on the whole thing he did, indeed, rape at least one actress. Yes, he should be punished for this. I'm not defending him. However, this letter asked an additional question; why isn't anyone questioning the motives of all of these women who wound up accusing him?

Hollywood isn't that big of a town. Actresses talk to their agents and agents talk to each other. If I recall correctly, at least one agent insisted on accompanying her client to interviews with Harvey, knowing his reputation. There were even jokes at awards ceremonies about it; it wasn't a secret. Harvey Weinstein isn't some sort of evil genius; the only way that he did this for over thirty years was if his employees, agents and yes, the "victims" themselves were complacent in it. This means thirty years with over one hundred people "on the inside" before the story broke? I can understand if this only happened once or twice in that thirty years...but over one hundred victims...in addition to the victims' friends, family and agents, as well as Weinstein's own employees? Something doesn't add up.

In his open letter, the author carefully pointed out that he wasn't defending Weinstein nor the "Casting Couch" culture. However, he also asks how it was that so many women were victimized by Harvey for so long if at least some of the victims weren't in on it. Not all of these young women were naive, clueless girls fresh out of high school who didn't understand why men they didn't know were so nice to them when they wore short skirts. Some, if not most, had been around Hollywood long enough to know the sleazy side of the industry and the sleazy side of Weinstein himself. Yet, they willingly met with him, in private.

How many of these women went into his office, hotel room, or wherever else the transaction took place, fully expecting to trade sexual favors for a role that could become her big break? How many women went there fully expecting to get some hush money for sexual harassment? I'm willing to bet that it wasn't zero. When the accusations started to fly they had two choices; jump on the bandwagon and claim victimhood or admit to having benefited from it. That's a pretty easy choice to make.

Much like the author of this letter (and if anyone can find it, please give me the link) I'm not defending what Harvey did. He is a pig, what he did was illegal and for the rape he committed, he should spend the rest of his life in prison. However, this doesn't take away the guilt of any actress who decided that letting Harvey have an hour or so of fun was worth it for a shortcut to her big break.

Just look at only-fans. Women trade sex for money and security. But they'll go on forever on how they don't and how men exploit women. "The Evil Oppressive Patriarchy Exploiting The Innocent Female Victims". Cry me a fucking river. I've had girls grab me places and strip naked in front of me, all unsolicited. I never took it personally though. What if men looked at women's unsolicited sexual contact as harassment, and then started reporting it en masse? But that's not how men are socially conditioned - so they don't. Women, on the other hand, are socially conditioned to see men as predators - so they treat men like predators. It's all bullschitt.

Fuck PountMeToo. If all women disappeared tomorrow, I'd be fine with it. Women use men's sexual desires to exploit and dispose of men.

Chivalry + Coutrly Love + Gynocentrism = Male Disposability

A lot of the women that accused Harvey likely tried to use his power and wealth to get their own and they likely did it through offers of sex. Shouldn't they be in jail, too? Why aren't their misdeeds sexual harassment? What's up with the blatant pussy passes?

Women and their State Pimps can fuck off and die.

Women and their PoundMeToo are disingenuous hypocrites. I hope they all go straight to hell.

It's all about keeping men locked up on the plantation. It's all about making sex outside of marriage illegal.

I guarantee you that older women with the same wealth and power would exploit young, hungry attractive male actors is the same manner, yet most men wouldn't consider the woman a criminal for doing so and would give the pussy pass.

It's anti-male social conditioning. Why not prosecute female actors or employees who offer sex in exchange for favors from executives? Why not prosecute women's exploitation of men? Where's women's accountability and responsibility? There is none.

It's the same with Cosby. Women go to parties, take free drugs from men, just as they take free drinks - and then fuck the men that give them free stuff. Cosby giving women drugs doesn't preclude women's responsibility for their own actions. Given all we know about women and how women exploit men for money, why aren't women being arrested and prosecuted for the same? We're just supposed to believe women? Are people really that gullible? Women are experts at deception.

Anti-male social conditioning. Take the consequences of women's actions and place them on the shoulders and backs of men. Same as it ever was. Nothing has changed. Men are made to suffer so women don't have to - with the male-only draft being the perfect example.

When are we going to stop pretending that women aren't natural whores and no better than men? Why do we keep kidding ourselves? Hello? Only Fans? Abortion? Prosecution free prostitutes? WTF is wrong with people? It's all so obvious.

It's a puritanical, cult like mass sickness. We lie to ourselves regarding women's true nature. It should be a mental disorder in the DSM-V. PussyPassItis.

I simply don't believe any allegation of rape or sexual assault that is years old. If I was raped or assaulted, I would go straight to the police and make a complaint, give evidence etc. To come back at a person 5, 10 or 15 years later and claim rape is bullshit and it should also never make it to a court of law.

Originally Posted by _RPK_

I simply don't believe any allegation of rape or sexual assault that is years old. If I was raped or assaulted, I would go straight to the police and make a complaint, give evidence etc. To come back at a person 5, 10 or 15 years later and claim rape is bullshit and it should also never make it to a court of law.

But woman will get shamed, embarrassed and looked down at if they report it! lol

Despite the charges on two counts, the jury found him not guilty on the more serious charge of "predatory sexual behavior," for which Weinstein faced life in prison.

Originally Posted by _RPK_

I simply don't believe any allegation of rape or sexual assault that is years old. If I was raped or assaulted, I would go straight to the police and make a complaint, give evidence etc. To come back at a person 5, 10 or 15 years later and claim rape is bullshit and it should also never make it to a court of law.

Sexual harassment claims of this age can be even worse. Sure, the consequences aren't quite as dire, but they can still destroy a career and a reputation. Much like with the more serious crimes, the "victims" wait this long because nobody remembers exactly what they were doing on a specific day, years ago. Since the accuser is the only one with a prepared narrative of events, it tends to get believed.

However, it's impossible to suggest that women sleep with someone to get a job. Men do not understand that harassment is unpleasant for women and my friend even asked for help from digitalinvestigation.com because of online harassment by my boss. Women don't understand what to do in such a situation, and it's terrible. And if he is handsome, it would be consensual sex; I don't think any man would refuse to have sex with Bella Hadid.

Originally Posted by Dinnyrishell

However, it's impossible to suggest that women sleep with someone to get a job.

Impossible?

No, just not very bright to do it publicly especially about a specific woman.

Come on Dinny, give us a bit of insight into who you are instead of one-liners!

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Impossible?

No, just not very bright to do it publicly especially about a specific woman.

Come on Dinny, give us a bit of insight into who you are instead of one-liners!

Originally Posted by CPRA

" . . . The allegations set off a movement whose impact few could have imagined. On October 15th, the actress Alyssa Milano tweeted, “If you’ve been sexually harassed or assaulted write ‘me too’ as a reply to this tweet.” Seventeen thousand women would ultimately respond—effectively joining a “me too” movement that had been founded a decade earlier, by the activist Tarana Burke. By the end of October, more than eighty women had claimed that Weinstein had sexually assaulted them, a figure that would eventually rise to more than a hundred.

But on October 5, 2017, the front-page headline of the New York Times read “sexual misconduct claims trail a hollywood mogul.” The Times investigation, by Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, highlighted thirty years’ worth of “previously undisclosed allegations” against Weinstein. For the first time, women had gone on the record to share their experiences of Weinstein’s sexual abuse—the actress Ashley Judd, an assistant named Emily Nestor, a literary scout named Lauren O’Connor. Kantor and Twohey reported that Weinstein “enforced a code of silence” by insuring that accusers signed nondisclosure agreements, and that employees signed contracts prohibiting them from criticizing the company or its leaders. Five days later, Ronan Farrow published the first in a series of reported pieces about Weinstein in this magazine. Thirteen women, including the actresses Asia Argento, Mira Sorvino, and Rosanna Arquette, asserted that Weinstein had sexually assaulted or harassed them. Three of the women told Farrow that he’d raped them. Four actresses said that they suspected Weinstein of working to ruin their careers after they rejected his advances . . . "
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-last-campaign


Comments: How to tell if you are a sexual harasser or not - if you look like Brad Pitt, a hawt 5 percent handsome movie actor dude, what you do is not sexual harassment, it is romantic. If you look like Harvey, a fat ugly dude who is a movie company director, it is sexual harassment . . . Women slept with Harvey on the casting couch to star in his movies, then claimed sexual harassment later for more $$$.

Weinstein isn't a handsome man. He looks like something the cat dragged in. Since he doesn't have looks, he used his wealth and status to get laid. It was easy to leverage these women's greed to get a part to get laid. This was consensual sex. It was basically prostitution (which should be legal). He paid for sex by giving women parts in movies. Once these women hit the wall and were all washed up, they turned on Harvey. He should be released from prison. He's proof you can get locked up for having consensual sex if your ex partner has an axe to grind.

I briefly considered a bumper sticker that reads, "Free Harvey Weinstein," but I don't want my car vandalized. Maybe just get a bunch of those stickers and put them up in places so that feminists piss their pants.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

I briefly considered a bumper sticker that reads, "Free Harvey Weinstein," but I don't want my car vandalized. Maybe just get a bunch of those stickers and put them up in places so that feminists piss their pants.

Long ago I saw a site that sold magnetic bumper stickers to put on cars whose owners you didn't like. One said, "no pay raises for cops", another went "fisting Champion." There was a dozen of them, none of which you would like to find on your ride. Well most of you anyway. Some people never look at the back of their cars, a bogus sticker could be there a while.

Considering how things are today, there are probably many ready-made stickers just waiting for you. Or someplace can make them for you. Magnetic is nice if you're after a car, you could slap them on nice and easy. Otherwise, the regular glued jobs would be fine.

Ain't it strange that a guy who kept his word about getting adult women's parts for playing with his parts in facing 140 years...

Meanwhile Epstein is dead and security camera blessedly non-functional while kept in the same cell as a serial killing corrupt cop, and Ghislaine Maxwell is imprisoned for pimping out girls... but yet not a single "Customer" of these girls has been charged. Though the Feds got his entire Island, his offices, and endless boxes and CDs and DVDs and DVRs with the blackmail material.

Originally Posted by Jadedoldman65

Sexual harassment claims of this age can be even worse. Sure, the consequences aren't quite as dire, but they can still destroy a career and a reputation. Much like with the more serious crimes, the "victims" wait this long because nobody remembers exactly what they were doing on a specific day, years ago. Since the accuser is the only one with a prepared narrative of events, it tends to get believed.

The old standard is simple and easy. If an adult woman allows herself to be alone with a male, it's considered consensual whatever happens next unless there is physical or eyewitness evidence to the contrary. It's very easy for everybody. But it deprives Lawyers and the Matriarchy of fun, profit, and baloney, so it's a no-go these days.