Thread: Happy to hear what improvements you've made in your lives since going MGTOW

Post what's better in your life since going MGTOW. Here are mine.

1. Lost weight
2. Earn more money
3. Keep more money
4. My French is greatly improved
5. Car is now as clean and neat as a new car
6. Apartment is much cleaner and neater (though still a work in progress)
7. Started learning Spanish
8. Guitar playing is better
9. Own two much nicer guitars than before, both an acoustic and an electric
10. Much less stress

It's amazing how much better things can get when you focus on improving and don't have to be distracted by women, trying to get dates, to please women, etc. I don't give a fuck whether or not women want me, and now I live my life on my own terms.

Another improvement I could mention is quitting drinking alcohol. However, that started long before going MGTOW.

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I'd love to hear from others. What has improved in your life since going MGTOW?

Left house in January.

Began Diet in March.

Lost 25 pounds since January - from 265 to 240. COVID closed the gym but my mouth was wide open.

Began Training for a new career in Health Care - my old one, in the events industry, was all but obliterated by COVID and only partially recovered.

Switched from a stressful office job to a mildly physical outdoor task that lets me run on autopilot, no bosses, work on my own and make my own hours while I'm retraining.

Began going back to the Gym last week. Began walking after dinner every weekday for 20 minutes.

Discovered the new Hobby of Love Dolls. Still appreciating the female form but without the mouth and "personality", ha.

Completely re-organized my place back to the way it oughta be (AKA "My Way"). Coffee close by, Ceramic Water Filter Pitchers in the Fridge, etc.

Reconnected with many family and friends, overwhelmed by support.

The Draft Horse rediscovered he was a Stallion, riding free on the Steppe instead of pulling heavy loads for cheap hay in a filthy village.

Inspired by the rest of you MGTOW lot on how good things can be, so THANK YOU ALL.

Originally Posted by Montauk

Left house in January.

Began Diet in March.

Lost 25 pounds since January - from 265 to 240. COVID closed the gym but my mouth was wide open.

Began Training for a new career in Health Care - my old one, in the events industry, was all but obliterated by COVID and only partially recovered.

Switched from a stressful office job to a mildly physical outdoor task that lets me run on autopilot, no bosses, work on my own and make my own hours while I'm retraining.

Began going back to the Gym last week. Began walking after dinner every weekday for 20 minutes.

Discovered the new Hobby of Love Dolls. Still appreciating the female form but without the mouth and "personality", ha.

Completely re-organized my place back to the way it oughta be (AKA "My Way"). Coffee close by, Ceramic Water Filter Pitchers in the Fridge, etc.

Reconnected with many family and friends, overwhelmed by support.

The Draft Horse rediscovered he was a Stallion, riding free on the Steppe instead of pulling heavy loads for cheap hay in a filthy village.

Inspired by the rest of you MGTOW lot on how good things can be, so THANK YOU ALL.

Great improvements, man. Thank you for posting them. Congratulations.

Originally Posted by Montauk

The Draft Horse rediscovered he was a Stallion, riding free on the Steppe instead of pulling heavy loads for cheap hay in a filthy village.

This perfectly describes the state of men in civilization versus going MGTOW, it makes the concept very clear for me.

Originally Posted by Montauk

The Draft Horse rediscovered he was a Stallion, riding free on the Steppe instead of pulling heavy loads for cheap hay in a filthy village.

Love the visual of this - but as someone who farms and logs with Draft Horses (all mares) it just sounds a bit demeaning to the only loyal, hard-working and dedicated females in my life (excluding my daughter (14) here - she is in the same class as my horses, and I'm doing everything in my power to keep it that way...)

My list, which started this past April:

Gave up weed.

Lost some weight but many inches (likely due to no more daily munchie binges)

Sleep much less.

Re-committed to making our farm/home a stunning oasis (the original plan when we moved here) and launched a new product/venture as part of that.

Shed many unwanted things/people/tasks that were keeping me down or holding me back.

Ditched the TV, again, and for good this time.

Started reading all the books I haven't gotten to that are sitting on the bookshelf where the TV stand used to be...

Threw out the vacuum that hasn't worked well for years (don't ask...)

Renewed sense of gratitude for what I've been blessed with, while spending much less time obsessing over what I don't have.

Constant, overwhelming sense of relief that I can live my own way without any judgement, passive-aggressive BS or spending an inordinate amount of time doing stuff I don't want to do with people I don't want to do it with.

Found this forum/community and am quite grateful for that!

I've lost weight and feel a lot better for it. But what i have noticed since cutting women out of my life is that i don't have any more stress, anxiety and high blood pressure. Not having to deal with anymore head games which as we all know they love to play. Sometimes i do feel lonely and it would be nice to have a bit of p sleeve but i know it ultimately isn't worth it anymore.

As a result, i am much happier.

I get to do what I want when I want.

My life is a power grid with all it's lines up and energized, vs. storm after storm because that's what dating and relationshits gave me. Each duration my life became a lineman, working on downed lines instead of living with the lights on and machines running, a bad enough woman will shut down your powerhouse (making the lines irrelevant).

If I were to draw a graph, the times spent with women, would look the stock exchange during recessions and depressions, highs and lows like a rocky mountain silhouette! Women in my life have always caused tremors, earthquakes, floods, and other avoidable disasters. It doesn't take much to set off my internal seismographs, cluing me in on who's on shaky ground and who's anchored bolted to bedrock!

Modern life for men with women is like building a sandcastle in a riptide!

I been driving an old beater for years. A real MGTOW wagon, it had loser written all over it. It's ok, that's just what I wanted people to think. However, being an econobox, the seats were junk and the last few years it became a problem. But it was cheap to run and didn't break much, so I stuck with it. Till recently. I now have a more upscale ride with very nice seats and an automatic transmission.

I could have traded in the beater, but they wouldn't have offered me spit. So, I gave it to an old friend who could really use it.

If I wasn't MGTOW, some woman wouldn't have allowed me to buy a better ride, let alone give away the perfectly good econobox to someone that doesn't help her any.

Originally Posted by frog

I been driving an old beater for years. A real MGTOW wagon, it had loser written all over it. It's ok, that's just what I wanted people to think. However, being an econobox, the seats were junk and the last few years it became a problem. But it was cheap to run and didn't break much, so I stuck with it. Till recently. I now have a more upscale ride with very nice seats and an automatic transmission.

I could have traded in the beater, but they wouldn't have offered me spit. So, I gave it to an old friend who could really use it.

If I wasn't MGTOW, some woman wouldn't have allowed me to buy a better ride, let alone give away the perfectly good econobox to someone that doesn't help her any.

You switched from a standard transmission where your brain, feet, and hand does the shifting? Instead you got an automatic where computers, modulators, relays, solenoids, and a wiring harness that looks like spaghetti alfredo connecting it all together is somehow an improvement?

My problem is that most cars are now automatic, it's hard to find anything in a standard, leave alone 4x4 (which went to shit when they traded locking hubs for more electronics, sensors, relays, solenoids, and wires!

I know what you mean about the seats, mine's been spitting out foam rubber for a couple years now, about the time the frame started rotting out.

When I got away from my ex…after a year I found that the relationship was costing me $50k or more per year…I then bought a new vehicle to replace my 13 year old econo car. I wouldn’t have been able to afford it with her.

1. More peace.
2. Less stress.
3. I can configure the house any way I want it. Including my "ugly" (according to ex) hifi speakers in the living room, driven by the old Onkyo receiver I finally had time to fully restore.
4. I still drive my crapbox cars, but I don't have to hear anyone complaining about being seen in them.
5. No worry about whether I'll have any money left for gas by the end of the week.
6. Ditched the TV service, only watch the occasional movie or series on DVD (TV is generally on for less than two hours per MONTH).
7. Absolutely zero bitching about when I'll be done with various renovation projects. I'll get them done--I finish what I start--but I don't have unlimited time to work on them.
8. Nobody burning up my internet data quota all day (cheap, unlimited internet is NOT a given everywhere in this country once you get away from the cities).

1. Get serious about retirement and actually think about a good age (below 60) that it would be possible.
2. Content in my job and not striving for more status or responsibilities.
3. Infinite possibilities to how my life will end up.

Originally Posted by mgtower

You switched from a standard transmission where your brain, feet, and hand does the shifting? Instead you got an automatic where computers, modulators, relays, solenoids, and a wiring harness that looks like spaghetti alfredo connecting it all together is somehow an improvement?

My legs have really gone to hell the last few years and my clutch work showed it. Otherwise, I'd a probably stayed with the beater.

It was a year or so of changes after she left, stopped smoking, started cooking again, started long term planning again, RP learning and self-reflection.

-Eating healthy, next to no takeaway, next to no factory prepared foods.
-More money, giving up women and smokes really helped here.
-Gave up tv. Simplifies life.
-upgraded to a well looked after luxury SUV, bought cheap at auction. Nicest car I have ever owned.
-working on self-employment again, slowly coming together.

Some of the things I enjoy that most BP'd men can't:
-Clear bathroom vanity
-no long hair plugged shower drain
-less clutter
-home without artificial fragrances
-things are where I last had them, not thrown out, given away, or put away where someone else thinks they should be stored.
-more MONEY!!!

Quit drugs
Quit alcohol
No longer smoking
The day to day is more peaceful
Eating healthier
Daily exercise
Content with my work life as opensource has mentioned and not looking to make it more complicated or overwork.
Looking to sell my vehicle as everything is within biking distance.

The one common denominator among MGTOW that I found over the years is self improvement that otherwise was self destruction.

Coincidence? I think not.

Another side effect of MGTOW (for me anyway) is heart felt laughter in abundance, instead of soul souring misery!

I'm not returning to drugs, alcohol, women, or the plantation in order to preserve this happy life no wife mentality!

Let's see the self improvement now is

1.training to become a software developer so I can have the financial freedom to do what I want and to clean up my mistakes I made in my early 20's
2. Getting more physical, mainly walking but also pick up other physical activities like dancing
3.overcome the last of my demons

Since I was in my 20s
1. Build a solid career in tech support (super life saver that was)
2. Build a supportive relationship with myself
3. Enjoy what I love in life

Originally Posted by mgtower

The one common denominator among MGTOW that I found over the years is self improvement that otherwise was self destruction.

Coincidence? I think not.

Yes, I agree. Good observation and I think it is clear to see.

Why is it?

I don't think it is just MGTOW, single men can display this also when self-improving.

Why do a lot of men in a LTR with a woman become self-destruction? Low self-esteem? Trying to drown the mental pain in alcohol and/or drugs. He knows what he should be, but can't be, because of her. Women "Shit Test" or test the (mental) strength of a man, The big noticeable tests are when hanging out or dating.... but it doesn't stop once marriage happens. What emotions is she experiencing now? Kids then come on the radar and is he good father material? Can he provide enough resources for a family? Will he run off with a younger piece of fluff? How many kids will he want? What do I have to do to get him to say 2 is enough? And a million other uncertainties all needing answers, but she just can't ask him straight out for an answer..... He has to be able to prove to her that he is all she could ever wish for.... More shit tests, smaller ones with nagging to chip away at his masculinity to test his strength.... (Note #1 below) Most married BP'ed men in time find themselves saying "Yes Dear" and "Happy wife, happy life" along here, trying to brush the tests off... Self-abuse starts around this point. She sees weakness and increases the "Shit Tests", this starts to chip away at his insecurities as she's not letting up. He ups the drowning of the mental pain, she ups the destruction of his self-esteem. Loss of job, financial troubles all add to his loss of self-esteem. Within a few years he's a mental mess trying to deal with all her drama crap "Shit Tests" just a simp, trying to find a little calm in a life of her storm. She sees he is weak; she has a stronger man as "Back up" and has affair/monkey branches up to him. The cycle continues.

I've seen this firsthand.... This is the simplified version. AWALT, they all "Shit Test", there are NO unicorns.

(Note #1) This is where I have noticed a difference in men in successful LTR. They do not resort to destructive behaviour. They don't let "Shit tests" bother them. They act like they have options and the women in the relationships acknowledge that. Please note: I am looking at people that are close to 60 yrs old in +30yr relationships, these people are from a different generation to what you are likely dealing with. The only way to see what does work in LTR is to look at what relationships are working, that isn't in a 5 yr relationship.... These are just my observations.

You want a sure thing that is going to work for you? Work on you. Put the most important person in your life first, that's you!!!

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

Yes, I agree. Good observation and I think it is clear to see.

Why is it?

I don't think it is just MGTOW, single men can display this also when self-improving.

Why do a lot of men in a LTR with a woman become self-destruction? Low self-esteem? Trying to drown the mental pain in alcohol and/or drugs. He knows what he should be, but can't be, because of her. Women "Shit Test" or test the (mental) strength of a man, The big noticeable tests are when hanging out or dating.... but it doesn't stop once marriage happens. What emotions is she experiencing now? Kids then come on the radar and is he good father material? Can he provide enough resources for a family? Will he run off with a younger piece of fluff? How many kids will he want? What do I have to do to get him to say 2 is enough? And a million other uncertainties all needing answers, but she just can't ask him straight out for an answer..... He has to be able to prove to her that he is all she could ever wish for.... More shit tests, smaller ones with nagging to chip away at his masculinity to test his strength.... (Note #1 below) Most married BP'ed men in time find themselves saying "Yes Dear" and "Happy wife, happy life" along here, trying to brush the tests off... Self-abuse starts around this point. She sees weakness and increases the "Shit Tests", this starts to chip away at his insecurities as she's not letting up. He ups the drowning of the mental pain, she ups the destruction of his self-esteem. Loss of job, financial troubles all add to his loss of self-esteem. Within a few years he's a mental mess trying to deal with all her drama crap "Shit Tests" just a simp, trying to find a little calm in a life of her storm. She sees he is weak; she has a stronger man as "Back up" and has affair/monkey branches up to him. The cycle continues.

I've seen this firsthand.... This is the simplified version. AWALT, they all "Shit Test", there are NO unicorns.

(Note #1) This is where I have noticed a difference in men in successful LTR. They do not resort to destructive behaviour. They don't let "Shit tests" bother them. They act like they have options and the women in the relationships acknowledge that. Please note: I am looking at people that are close to 60 yrs old in +30yr relationships, these people are from a different generation to what you are likely dealing with. The only way to see what does work in LTR is to look at what relationships are working, that isn't in a 5 yr relationship.... These are just my observations.

You want a sure thing that is going to work for you? Work on you. Put the most important person in your life first, that's you!!!

You're preaching to the choir, and this choir likes your preaching! There's nothing better than the pile of dead monkeys at the bottom of my branchless greased monkey branch tree! They actually think we're stupid enough to accommodate them!

A chad uses this dynamic for sexual favors and self gratification. I use this dynamic to make dead monkeys.