Thread: Goodbye my incel self

Hey everyone, I am a 22 year old kissless virgin I used to be a feminist mangina white knight.
I basically had a rough childhood, I was always picked on, unpopular & severely bullied, in 7th grade I had oneitis for a 6th grade girl, she made fun of me when she found out that I liked her and got embarassed when the bullies beat me up.
My second major oneitis is from 2 years ago I still have feelings for her, back in 2015 my country suffered a horrible garbage crisis a movement was formed , I joined this movement and befriended the activists she was one of them, I started with just a simple crush on her, but it consumed me eventually at the same time I got more popular with activists including her and I became a pushover doormat a male feminist.
I woke up from the feminist coma, but I was still blue pilled, but the reason why I woke is because of feminists bashing men's issues and MRA's. The problem was if get a slight attention from her, the oneitis consumed me more for example if I posted something on fb and she liked it or reacted to it, or gave me a hug, my ego increased and made me feel good about myself for a while, but faded quickly.
After waking up from the coma, I started posting misogynistic jokes on facebook like "Why do women have boobs? So you got something to look at while you're talking to them" many girls and other white knights started personally attacking me in the comments, even a pussy slayer used ad hominems. Another time I posted a much heavier joke "Why females cannot be trusted? Because they bleed for five days straight and don't die" Many feminazis blocked me. I got upset from the fact that they blocked me.
But around 2 months ago, I posted something not a joke "Most women are snakes and cannot be trusted" the oneitis girl got pissed off and unfriended me, I was devastated and immediately asked her if she is mad with me she said no. Many people told me that they wish they had the courage like me to share inflammatory posts
I did some research, and took some view points from you guys on other people's threads is to never give a fuck, be more confident. I told myself enough is enough, I should work my way up to be alpha A few days ago I decided to start going to the gym, and improving my looks and only for my self not to get pussy. Last night I posted on fb :"If you hate my posts, kindly unfriend or block, and I don't care if you did" I am starting to feel more confident I also am going to the gym in order to lose my beer belly along with managing my diet.
I don't think I red pilled, but I am getting closer to obtain it, and I am slowly becoming a black knight.
I live in a middle eastern country yes legally Lebanon is a patriarchy but culturally gynocentric, marriage is almost a requirement in our society, the issue is that Lebanese women are extremely demanding and they aren't any different than western women, they have a monopoly when it comes to dating love romance and sex, they use you.
I decided to stop victimising my self, take responsibility for my actions, be a better person,

Delete your FB and live happily ever after .

no FB = time for gym , learn a new language and the most important - more time for sleep . Without enough sleep gym is a waste of time and health .

Welcome aboard. It is customary to place an introductory post in the New Member Intros.

edit:
Woops, I didn't look down far enough, please disregard this. Thank you, Natural Born MGTOW.

Good to see a young fellow MGTOW on the path of consciousness. Self awareness is the first step that leads you into a certain direction in your life.
The fact that you are living in Lebanon definitely does not improve your situation. I believe the pressure to get married will increase. If that is the case you should seriously consider to expat and relocate some place else. Which will be the hardest part I guess. Since you are young your whole life is still ahead of you. Concentrate you energy and focus on a career or what you like best.
These are tough decisions to make. First try to figure out what you want in life and go for it. Listen to yourself first and stop listening to others who tell you what to do.

Keep going your own way and you'll be fine.

Welcome.

Well done for removing part of the shit-goggles society has brainwashed you with. I think at this point it is about un-learning some of the lies you have been brainwashed with since you were young. I see you are using terms such as 'oneitis' so I assume you know parts of the PUA philosophy or have consumed some form of the literature.

In your quest to become 'alpha' is it to attract females? Do question your baseline motivations. Do ask yourself this question. Do you believe that a man can live a amazing life without being 'alpha'?

What is Alpha to you? You have told us that you felt bad when a female did not like your post or show attention. This is one of the drawbacks of becoming a PUA or an alpha in training. You are taught that if you're not getting good female attention than you're not a alpha. I would like you to consider the fact that you can be an alpha male without female attention and attraction. Women do not dictate a mans strengths or be the judge of them. You are the only judge. When you stop giving a fuck about what PEOPLE think of you -- you will be an alpha. If women are not attracted to your looks -- no amount of hulkness will make you attractive to them in this day and age.

In my opinion a 'Chad' and an Alpha male are different. Chad has female attention/sex but he isn't always an 'alpha'. I've done experiments where I have intentionally failed shit tests in online dating profiles and acted beta yet still managed to land a fuck date. I know a handful of guys who are girly and not really 'alpha' and consistently fuck women. The difference is they're good looking. The pua community coined the term alpha and seperated it from looks in order to sell their products to their target market. Yes you may be able to give me a few examples of ugly guys who are getting laid, it's not written in stone it's just a general thing i have witnessed in my advanced years.

In my opinion, if you're good looking then you will be 'considered' an alpha male. Good looks are essentially pre-selection + attraction. If you're an alpha and bad looking women will just act intimidated and scared of you and some might be attracted. You know, tell me, of those who are 'alphas' technically they should be able to get laid by 100% of women since women want to fuck alphas? Then why is it that one woman from the next may consider one guy a chad and the next not?


If you're good looking then you will be an object women will want to sleep with. You just need to stop giving a fuck in order to activate the system = and these were usually the guys pasting the old forums with their success stories while other guys had no luck at all.

For those who have not advanced yet (blue pillars) who i regard not in disgust but just have not found the truth yet and want sex is to become dangerous. Go join the mafia. Learn to box. You will be able to give certain women tingles if you're dangerous. This is how the ugly guys do it. they treat women like shit and have something dangerous about them. The nice guy ugly guys settle for women who are not attractive enough to pull any chad. So the girl settles down with them due to not being able to land a chad. usually the story goes she cheats on him once a chad comes around. This is how the story usually goes for awakened red pillars who were once blue pilled.

Originally Posted by Canis

Welcome aboard. It is customary to place an introductory post in the New Member Intros.

He did that already.

Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov

Delete your FB and live happily ever after .

no FB = time for gym , learn a new language and the most important - more time for sleep . Without enough sleep gym is a waste of time and health .

100%

Also to OP, don't think of it as "becoming an alpha", that mindset will only mess you up more. All it takes is time and eventually you won't be feeling angry about women but really GOOD. I'm not a virgin, but I might as well be with how much I suck at getting laid. I used to obsess over it but now I realize I got bigger fish to fry.

Originally Posted by Nuggets

100%

Also to OP, don't think of it as "becoming an alpha", that mindset will only mess you up more. All it takes is time and eventually you won't be feeling angry about women but really GOOD. I'm not a virgin, but I might as well be with how much I suck at getting laid. I used to obsess over it but now I realize I got bigger fish to fry.

I agree. Do not attach getting laid with being an alpha. They can co-exist independently. I've gone to battle with a lot of PUAS on this and won countless times. The system wants you to think you're not alpha unless you're getting laid, then you'll buy more PUA bootcamps/dvd sets, expensive cars, work harder for a better job while paying high taxes. The government wants you to be a pussy chaser.

Imagine a world where men no longer chased women. Imagine the amount of big business which would suffer.

Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW

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I decided to stop victimising my self, take responsibility for my actions, be a better person,

This is a good start!

Work hard at the gym and work and watch things improve overall for you.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

This is a good start!

Work hard at the gym and work and watch things improve overall for you.

Work smart , work smart !!!! Hard work leads to injury, poverty and early grave !

Do 3 to 5 days a week and sleep , sleep , sleep !

Little by little , little by little !


Delete FB . You are only there for approval of bitches . You have zero friends both there and in real life . Get over it . And if you as you said dont look very good = you have zero chances . Get over it .

But in a year or two , with a fake troll name , just for fun . You will think about it .

Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov

Delete your FB and live happily ever after .

no FB = time for gym , learn a new language and the most important - more time for sleep . Without enough sleep gym is a waste of time and health .

Thanks, I am actually finding useless and offers nothing helpful, FB is just a popularity contest and ego-driven.

Originally Posted by Canis

Welcome aboard. It is customary to place an introductory post in the New Member Intros.

edit:
Woops, I didn't look down far enough, please disregard this. Thank you, Natural Born MGTOW.

I am still fairly new,I think I am experiencing the red pill rage.

Originally Posted by Natural Born MGTOW

Good to see a young fellow MGTOW on the path of consciousness. Self awareness is the first step that leads you into a certain direction in your life.
The fact that you are living in Lebanon definitely does not improve your situation. I believe the pressure to get married will increase. If that is the case you should seriously consider to expat and relocate some place else. Which will be the hardest part I guess. Since you are young your whole life is still ahead of you. Concentrate you energy and focus on a career or what you like best.
These are tough decisions to make. First try to figure out what you want in life and go for it. Listen to yourself first and stop listening to others who tell you what to do.

Keep going your own way and you'll be fine.

I will use my spare time to do something more productive, and I think it is gonna be tough being MGTOW and living in a traditionalist culture.

Originally Posted by ShogunRonin

Welcome.

Well done for removing part of the shit-goggles society has brainwashed you with. I think at this point it is about un-learning some of the lies you have been brainwashed with since you were young. I see you are using terms such as 'oneitis' so I assume you know parts of the PUA philosophy or have consumed some form of the literature.

In your quest to become 'alpha' is it to attract females? Do question your baseline motivations. Do ask yourself this question. Do you believe that a man can live a amazing life without being 'alpha'?

What is Alpha to you? You have told us that you felt bad when a female did not like your post or show attention. This is one of the drawbacks of becoming a PUA or an alpha in training. You are taught that if you're not getting good female attention than you're not a alpha. I would like you to consider the fact that you can be an alpha male without female attention and attraction. Women do not dictate a mans strengths or be the judge of them. You are the only judge. When you stop giving a fuck about what PEOPLE think of you -- you will be an alpha. If women are not attracted to your looks -- no amount of hulkness will make you attractive to them in this day and age.

In my opinion a 'Chad' and an Alpha male are different. Chad has female attention/sex but he isn't always an 'alpha'. I've done experiments where I have intentionally failed shit tests in online dating profiles and acted beta yet still managed to land a fuck date. I know a handful of guys who are girly and not really 'alpha' and consistently fuck women. The difference is they're good looking. The pua community coined the term alpha and seperated it from looks in order to sell their products to their target market. Yes you may be able to give me a few examples of ugly guys who are getting laid, it's not written in stone it's just a general thing i have witnessed in my advanced years.

In my opinion, if you're good looking then you will be 'considered' an alpha male. Good looks are essentially pre-selection + attraction. If you're an alpha and bad looking women will just act intimidated and scared of you and some might be attracted. You know, tell me, of those who are 'alphas' technically they should be able to get laid by 100% of women since women want to fuck alphas? Then why is it that one woman from the next may consider one guy a chad and the next not?


If you're good looking then you will be an object women will want to sleep with. You just need to stop giving a fuck in order to activate the system = and these were usually the guys pasting the old forums with their success stories while other guys had no luck at all.

For those who have not advanced yet (blue pillars) who i regard not in disgust but just have not found the truth yet and want sex is to become dangerous. Go join the mafia. Learn to box. You will be able to give certain women tingles if you're dangerous. This is how the ugly guys do it. they treat women like shit and have something dangerous about them. The nice guy ugly guys settle for women who are not attractive enough to pull any chad. So the girl settles down with them due to not being able to land a chad. usually the story goes she cheats on him once a chad comes around. This is how the story usually goes for awakened red pillars who were once blue pilled.

I am now reading The Game by Neil Strauss I did learn some terms in the PUA community, to me alpha is being assertive and manly not afraid to take risks, has a good personality to get his way (not an ass kisser), he could but I think an alpha male would not allow people to walk all over him. I am being alpha as I described above, but I wanna be alpha just to get ONS's like pick up a hot girl go to some place and have sex with her , and leave.
I am starting to slowly not giving a sh*t, from yesterday 16 people unfriended/blocked me on FB, and I feel like that I am feeding on this unfriending most of them are females who did so.
If I take care of myslef, I look very handsome and I am doing so as well as going to the gym in order to get rid of my beer belly, also I am managing my diet and eating more healthy. I think I have red pill rage.

Originally Posted by Nuggets

100%

Also to OP, don't think of it as "becoming an alpha", that mindset will only mess you up more. All it takes is time and eventually you won't be feeling angry about women but really GOOD. I'm not a virgin, but I might as well be with how much I suck at getting laid. I used to obsess over it but now I realize I got bigger fish to fry.

Thx

Originally Posted by ShogunRonin

I agree. Do not attach getting laid with being an alpha. They can co-exist independently. I've gone to battle with a lot of PUAS on this and won countless times. The system wants you to think you're not alpha unless you're getting laid, then you'll buy more PUA bootcamps/dvd sets, expensive cars, work harder for a better job while paying high taxes. The government wants you to be a pussy chaser.

Imagine a world where men no longer chased women. Imagine the amount of big business which would suffer.

I know, I know many beta's and white knights they do get laid or have wife/gf but they get cheated on, the nicest thing she could do to him is dump him.

Originally Posted by Azure Nomad

This is a good start!


Work hard at the gym and work and watch things improve overall for you.

Thx

Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov

Work smart , work smart !!!! Hard work leads to injury, poverty and early grave !

Do 3 to 5 days a week and sleep , sleep , sleep !

Little by little , little by little !


Delete FB . You are only there for approval of bitches . You have zero friends both there and in real life . Get over it . And if you as you said dont look very good = you have zero chances . Get over it .

But in a year or two , with a fake troll name , just for fun . You will think about it .

I actually have 6 very close friends, they agree with me that gynocentrism is bad, but they are purplr pilled, I see them almost every night.

My two older brothers fell into the trap of marriage.
My eldest brother got married 6 years ago, he has now two daughters, he told me that he regret that he got married , he is a successful engineer with a fairly high position but his wife didn't offer anything she is not controlling , but she wastes his money on stupid things, and before he got married he used to do whatever he wants whenever he wanted, but now he acts like a robot.
My second elder brother, recently got married, he now lives in KSA, his wife is very devout muslim, but she is kinda controlling she is now pregnant, but my brother did not want kids she pressured him to have kids, he is pro-life because of religious reasons.

Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov

Delete your FB and live happily ever after .

no FB = time for gym , learn a new language and the most important - more time for sleep . Without enough sleep gym is a waste of time and health .

Agree,but even more important, eat clean and healthy.....

Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW

I am now reading The Game by Neil Strauss I did learn some terms in the PUA community, to me alpha is being assertive and manly not afraid to take risks, has a good personality to get his way (not an ass kisser), he could but I think an alpha male would not allow people to walk all over him. I am being alpha as I described above, but I wanna be alpha just to get ONS's like pick up a hot girl go to some place and have sex with her , and leave.
I am starting to slowly not giving a sh*t, from yesterday 16 people unfriended/blocked me on FB, and I feel like that I am feeding on this unfriending most of them are females who did so.
If I take care of myslef, I look very handsome and I am doing so as well as going to the gym in order to get rid of my beer belly, also I am managing my diet and eating more healthy. I think I have red pill rage.

You label yourself as MGTOW but 'studying' PUA stuff? You are going your own way but Facebook and what people think/like/dislike plays an apparent role in your 'world'?.......

Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW

I don't think I red pilled, but I am getting closer to obtain it, and I am slowly becoming a black knight.

Do You mean Dark Knight? Then - by any chance - you could slowly become Batman!

Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen

Agree,but even more important, eat clean and healthy.....

This is the hardest part and for vast majority of people close to impossible .

Originally Posted by Lebanese_MGTOW

Thanks, I am actually finding useless and offers nothing helpful, FB is just a popularity contest and ego-driven.

I am still fairly new,I think I am experiencing the red pill rage.

I will use my spare time to do something more productive, and I think it is gonna be tough being MGTOW and living in a traditionalist culture.

I am now reading The Game by Neil Strauss I did learn some terms in the PUA community, to me alpha is being assertive and manly not afraid to take risks, has a good personality to get his way (not an ass kisser), he could but I think an alpha male would not allow people to walk all over him. I am being alpha as I described above, but I wanna be alpha just to get ONS's like pick up a hot girl go to some place and have sex with her , and leave.
I am starting to slowly not giving a sh*t, from yesterday 16 people unfriended/blocked me on FB, and I feel like that I am feeding on this unfriending most of them are females who did so.
If I take care of myslef, I look very handsome and I am doing so as well as going to the gym in order to get rid of my beer belly, also I am managing my diet and eating more healthy. I think I have red pill rage.




Thx

I know, I know many beta's and white knights they do get laid or have wife/gf but they get cheated on, the nicest thing she could do to him is dump him.

Thx


I actually have 6 very close friends, they agree with me that gynocentrism is bad, but they are purplr pilled, I see them almost every night.

You can have 6 close friends through your life time . But not all at once . Its an impossibility .

But its a good thing you get along with people . Unlike me

Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen

Agree,but even more important, eat clean and healthy.....

I am ding my best, I do cardio for one hour at 4mph with 15% inclined

Originally Posted by xcom

You label yourself as MGTOW but 'studying' PUA stuff? You are going your own way but Facebook and what people think/like/dislike plays an apparent role in your 'world'?.......



Do You mean Dark Knight? Then - by any chance - you could slowly become Batman!

I will eventually leave facebook, I am getting bored with it , like I said above I will only be a PUA for one night stands because prostitution is illegal.
By black knight I mean is the opposite of white knight.

Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov

You can have 6 close friends through your life time . But not all at once . Its an impossibility .

But its a good thing you get along with people . Unlike me

Not exactly 6, but 3 besties, and the other 3 are good friends I see them occasionally.

Relieving the urge to chase women in the shower with your hand is not as good as the "real thing".
But not having to give up your time, money and effort (your power) to women because they have something you want is priceless.
The men in the world who do BEST with women are men who really don't need women a single bit - women to these men are disposable.

Congratulations for stopping the pussy worship and male feminist nonsense.

The men who give these same women "money shots" on a regular basis do not worship pussy and are most definitely not feminists.

You may be able to "alpha-up" or just be more masculine but I don't think that's possible with the women who have already seen you as a blue-pill mangina.
To them, you're pretty much a dead event sexually unless something radically changes. Like you bank account balance...

Hang around with real men, go to the gym. Discuss politics and philosophy or even religion with educated men.
Learn some self defense, or join a contact sport league.

Do not listen to women too much. Their "knowledge" is based on emotions and how to manipulate other people into getting the things they need and want.

They are not bad people no more than a parasite like a tapeworm or reptile like a snake is a bad organism.

You just have to know the risks and what precautions to take.

Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid

Relieving the urge to chase women in the shower with your hand is not as good as the "real thing".
But not having to give up your time, money and effort (your power) to women because they have something you want is priceless.
The men in the world who do BEST with women are men who really don't need women a single bit - women to these men are disposable.

Congratulations for stopping the pussy worship and male feminist nonsense.

The men who give these same women "money shots" on a regular basis do not worship pussy and are most definitely not feminists.

You may be able to "alpha-up" or just be more masculine but I don't think that's possible with the women who have already seen you as a blue-pill mangina.
To them, you're pretty much a dead event sexually unless something radically changes. Like you bank account balance...

Hang around with real men, go to the gym. Discuss politics and philosophy or even religion with educated men.
Learn some self defense, or join a contact sport league.

Do not listen to women too much. Their "knowledge" is based on emotions and how to manipulate other people into getting the things they need and want.

They are not bad people no more than a parasite like a tapeworm or reptile like a snake is a bad organism.

You just have to know the risks and what precautions to take.

Thx, I cut off all contact with these women and I just did deactivate my Facebook account.

It's always great to hear a brother going to the gym, this will improve many areas of your life. I used to be a weak, skinny looking, pencil neck, but now Ive filled out a lot more, am strong and look great.

Progressive overload, decent diet, enough rest, and never giving up are the keys. I like to watch motivational movies while I train. For example, this one, but you might not feel it if you're not a Dragon Ball Z fan.