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    Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Oh man, this never fails to make me chuckle. Yesterday I did a cycling event with a bloke about my age, he's good looking and physically fit, most women would say he's a 9 in looks.

    His missus and kids were waiting at the end, I could hardly believe my eyes. She's a severely overweight and ugly monster. There's no chance she was even good looking in her youth. You couldn't even say she's a 1 or 2.

    When I see it it always makes me wonder how that happened, got her up the duff while pissed and decided to stick it out for the kids? Severely low self esteem? Somehow pressured into a relationship? Just thick as a plank? Super simp?

    To be fair this bloke is not the brightest, he must be completely blue pilled. But is very friendly and smiley and everyone likes him.

    His kids seem normal. Maybe his blue pilled simpleton persona is all an act, and he's secretly waiting for/encouraging his wife to pop her clogs via some obesity related illness.. take the life insurance and find a 21 year old hottie?

    You guys must have seen examples of this. I can sort of understand when guys get a munter up the duff and decide to grin and bear it because "that's being a man". But what gets me is when the blokes look HAPPY with their lot! Surely if they were merely putting up with it, they would look more pissed off. One thing I've noticed is that it's always the woman wearing the trousers, subtly.

    The mind boggles, lol!
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    @ happy bachelor...

    Are my brothers in the UK having issues with overweight women thinking they need a fit man too? I thought that was more of an American problem.

    It frustrates me that the quality of women has tanked so much that even the 2's or 3's think they are entitled to a good-looking, built man. It's insane! The ratio to "average at best" women to attractive men is messed up in the west. 5's in women's looks department should be the baseline as neither ugly nor beautiful. In United States especially, 2's and 3's are the baseline and a 5 is actually getting rare. That put's all of us guys who are just average or slightly better (5's or 6's) at an extreme disadvantage.

    To add a bit of context to the above statement. Objectively, I'm about a 6. I'm average in the looks department but where I give myself an extra point is that I'm extremely muscular and fit. Not saying this to brag but I have to give some personal experience. You know that I can't even find a woman here who is comparable in the looks department. All the women 5's or 6's are rare. They are either married or think they're entitled to 8's or 9's even though objectively, they aren't. I WILL NOT SETTLE FOR A 2 or 3 when I'm not that.

    To clear the air here, I'm not looking for women anymore. They are neither worth the time and effort in the west. I'm so much happier since I've found MGTOW and even though I still have urges, the lesser of 2 evils is to rub one out.
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Are my brothers in the UK having issues with overweight women thinking they need a fit man too? I thought that was more of an American problem.
    I always thought, even from a young age, that Britain / Europe is America, but 10 years behind. Or maybe 20. Regardless, we seem destined to follow your footsteps.
    Yeah it's pretty bad here. There are still a lot of young/slim women around to be had. But you'd have to simp like fuck to get them. I including 'gaming' within 'simping'!

    It frustrates me that the quality of women has tanked so much that even the 2's or 3's think they are entitled to a good-looking, built man. It's insane! The ratio to "average at best" women to attractive men is messed up in the west. 5's in women's looks department should be the baseline as neither ugly nor beautiful. In United States especially, 2's and 3's are the baseline and a 5 is actually getting rare. That put's all of us guys who are just average or slightly better (5's or 6's) at an extreme disadvantage.

    To add a bit of context to the above statement. Objectively, I'm about a 6. I'm average in the looks department but where I give myself an extra point is that I'm extremely muscular and fit. Not saying this to brag but I have to give some personal experience. You know that I can't even find a woman here who is comparable in the looks department. All the women 5's or 6's are rare. They are either married or think they're entitled to 8's or 9's even though objectively, they aren't. I WILL NOT SETTLE FOR A 2 or 3 when I'm not that.

    To clear the air here, I'm not looking for women anymore. They are neither worth the time and effort in the west. I'm so much happier since I've found MGTOW and even though I still have urges, the lesser of 2 evils is to rub one out.
    I agree you should not settle for more than 1 or 2 points below you.

    Yeah it totally sucks. With a good physique and manly look you would have no trouble finding a hot young girlfriend in Europe, I think. But on a deeper level you would still have the quandary of whether to be attached to someone who is probably a feminist or who has the government backing them no matter what.

    I guess it depends what you want and the price you're willing to pay. If you want kids then you could do worse than making it your objective to get a European, or Asian girl pregnant. And managing the rest of your life, whatever that would be! I gave it serious thought a couple times in my life. Find attractive fertile woman, have a child, be a single dad... but would it be that easy? I doubt it. When I thought of all that TIME, MONEY, STRESS I just thought RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!! Not to mention the very real chance of ending up dead, in jail or destitute. But some men could manage it.

    One of my last girlfriends was a German. She was young and a virgin, Christian, beautiful and slim - as close to ideal as a man would want. If I was the having kids and being a husband type I would have done very well with her. Trouble is I don't like being attached to anyone, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post

    I always thought, even from a young age, that Britain / Europe is America, but 10 years behind. Or maybe 20. Regardless, we seem destined to follow your footsteps.
    Yeah it's pretty bad here. There are still a lot of young/slim women around to be had. But you'd have to simp like fuck to get them. I including 'gaming' within 'simping'!


    Yeah it's like that in America for sure. To me gaming is just not worth the effort. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. I don't mean to come off as entitled but the amount of effort for a reasonably decent guy in picking up a decent woman should be minimal. Men are the prize after all.


    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post

    I agree you should not settle for more than 1 or 2 points below you.


    Yeah I'm past the stage of looking anyhow. I won't make any promises that I won't fuck one of them if they just happen to come my way but I wouldn't put any effort towards it. Even just casual sex is risky now so that probably won't happen. I would have to learn tips for your guy's James Bond just to engage with these women. By that I mean I would need a secret identity, cover story, burner phone, fake residence/hotel; etc. Again, it's not worth the squeeze.


    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post

    Yeah it totally sucks. With a good physique and manly look you would have no trouble finding a hot young girlfriend in Europe, I think. But on a deeper level you would still have the quandary of whether to be attached to someone who is probably a feminist or who has the government backing them no matter what.
    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post


    I've never been to Europe but have spent a lot of time in Asia. It's like that in Asia too where a man does not need to simp or game anywhere near as hard to land a hot woman. It's extremely easy over there and a stark contrast to the west. Over there, a decent man can be treated like a rockstar but over here, he's invisible.

    I may be mistaken but does Britain have a big "gym-culture"? I always thought they did which is why the overweight women stories surprised me.

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post

    One of my last girlfriends was a German. She was young and a virgin, Christian, beautiful and slim - as close to ideal as a man would want. If I was the having kids and being a husband type I would have done very well with her. Trouble is I don't like being attached to anyone, lol.
    I understand completely. Being attached is not something for me anymore. It's just not in the cards.
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Yeah I'm past the stage of looking anyhow. I won't make any promises that I won't fuck one of them if they just happen to come my way but I wouldn't put any effort towards it. Even just casual sex is risky now so that probably won't happen. I would have to learn tips for your guy's James Bond just to engage with these women. By that I mean I would need a secret identity, cover story, burner phone, fake residence/hotel; etc. Again, it's not worth the squeeze.


    Yes casual sex... is just a minefield. I'd say in Europe, going to pubs and bars is a good bet for a muscular dude, a few white wines and the ladies will be drooling over you. Especially the newly / perennially divorced. Probably the ones who have a simp at home as well. You might also have a few morbidly obese chicks grinding up against you come midnight too, that is a risk. You would get a few lays out of it, but I suspect those cheap thrills are beneath you now.

    I may be mistaken but does Britain have a big "gym-culture"? I always thought they did which is why the overweight women stories surprised me.
    Sort of yes. Most towns have a crossfit or two as well now and as you surely know, that's big and cultish. Probably easy lays to be had there by single woman with cats and dogs, getting into bodybuilding. I guess at least the chances of you fucking a chick who's bigger than you are slim. Some years ago I was banging a chick who was into crossfit. I'm in shape but she was bigger and more ripped. Felt like I was fucking a dude sometimes.

    Would be fun for you to walk around shirtless and see if you got any numbers.
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    @ happy bachelor...

    Well thanks for the clarification on how it is in Britain/ Europe. Again I've never been there so it's always nice to chat with a cousin from the motherland. Sorry to hear that the women are beginning to become even more fat and fugly like they are here in the America's.
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    One of my last girlfriends was a German. She was young and a virgin, Christian, beautiful and slim
    ?

    What is this word and what does it mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    ?

    What is this word and what does it mean?
    In the UK it is a woman under the age of 13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    In the UK it is a woman under the age of 13.
    I fucked a 13 year old!

    When I was 11!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    @ happy bachelor...

    Well thanks for the clarification on how it is in Britain/ Europe. Again I've never been there so it's always nice to chat with a cousin from the motherland. Sorry to hear that the women are beginning to become even more fat and fugly like they are here in the America's.
    Ignoring the census numbers, pound for pound, they outnumber us 3.8 to 1!
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    When girls start to develop, they know they have gold in between their legs IF THEY KNOW HOW TO USE IT. Girls knew they needed some practice.

    At that age, we boys were awkward as hell , they were awkward too but insisted, so we went along with the script. It wasnt until 16 did I want it

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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    To answer HB,
    I know a good looking in very good shape Doctor who is married to a 4. He lives in a town of 30k , so he could probably have any woman there he wants. I will respect him for his commitment as she was a 4 when they married.

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    I have noticed mismatches in couples also, I use to question it in my youth and came up with a couple of reasons.
    -He's into fat chicks. (it's a fetish?)
    -His last girlfriend was 8-10 and every guy was hitting on her and she cheated, by picking a 3 down less guys will be hitting on her.... Wrong way of thinking, but that was his excuse.
    -He was shy/lazy and she was a "Pick Me" that more or less went hunting for him.... He was her conquest.
    -She was decent when they met, after 3 kids and being a stay at home mum for 10 yrs, watching tv, snacking all day, the wall came hard and fast. It is cheaper for him to stick it out with her. He might have a mistress also.
    -Girls or women are the masters of deception. Evolution has made them that way for survival of themselves and their offspring. Most can play the game very well. From first meeting the fellow right along to divorce court raping. Most times it will go their way. A lot of guys are lazy when it comes to a relationship. Why chaise a girl if there is one right in front of you that is acceptable and willing to be with you? Men have to learn game, it's part of female nature for the women....

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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    ? What is this word and what does it mean?
    "And A Virgin" - old Madonna track isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Willers View Post
    "And A Virgin" - old Madonna track isn't it?
    Think you mean Like a Virgin bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Think you mean Like a Virgin bro.
    I know.... <gaging>

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I fucked a 13 year old!

    When I was 11!
    Shhhh!

    Even when both are underage the male gets the blame.

    Maybe things have changed (I doubt it) but I remember stories from many years ago in this ilk where the male was labelled pedophile and the female was merely a victim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Shhhh!

    Even when both are underage the male gets the blame.

    Maybe things have changed (I doubt it) but I remember stories from many years ago in this ilk where the male was labelled pedophile and the female was merely a victim!
    Na, man, the time and place where I came from, that was just fucking a whore! Times have surly changed! Besides, how can an 11 yo be a pedo? Especially when she has two years over him? Allot of shit I do creates an enigma, trying to hang a label on me is like trying to glue wood to ice.
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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    Are my brothers in the UK having issues with overweight women thinking they need a fit man too? I thought that was more of an American problem.
    Short answer Definitely....We are only one step behind you in that department.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    I may be mistaken but does Britain have a big "gym-culture"? I always thought they did which is why the overweight women stories surprised me..
    Gyms are popular but for every 40 year old woman I know who takes good care of herself. There are several overweight women promoting fat acceptance while demanding men who are in perfect shape.

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNuts View Post
    I have noticed mismatches in couples also, I use to question it in my youth and came up with a couple of reasons.
    -He's into fat chicks. (it's a fetish?)
    -His last girlfriend was 8-10 and every guy was hitting on her and she cheated, by picking a 3 down less guys will be hitting on her.... Wrong way of thinking, but that was his excuse.
    -He was shy/lazy and she was a "Pick Me" that more or less went hunting for him.... He was her conquest.
    -She was decent when they met, after 3 kids and being a stay at home mum for 10 yrs, watching tv, snacking all day, the wall came hard and fast. It is cheaper for him to stick it out with her. He might have a mistress also.
    -Girls or women are the masters of deception. Evolution has made them that way for survival of themselves and their offspring. Most can play the game very well. From first meeting the fellow right along to divorce court raping. Most times it will go their way. A lot of guys are lazy when it comes to a relationship. Why chaise a girl if there is one right in front of you that is acceptable and willing to be with you? Men have to learn game, it's part of female nature for the women....
    Excellent points.......I'll add

    Men are put under big social pressure to settle down from 25-40, I have noticed after passing this age range strangers seem to assume I'm divorced or separated.

    A hot 30 year old has spent half her life being constantly bombarded by male attention especially in the age of social media. This has obvious effects on her personality, this problem is reduced in less attractive women.

    Basic SMV, women peak around 15 years before men according to the rational males famous graph.
    Yet according to this page less than 8% of marriages have a husband 10 years or older than the wife.

    Age disparity in sexual relationships - Wikipedia
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: Fugly chicks with good looking dudes

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    Basic SMV, women peak around 15 years before men according to the rational males famous graph.
    Yet according to this page less than 8% of marriages have a husband 10 years or older than the wife.
    Yes, good point. The sexes will never be matched by SMV with age in mind. There will only be a lasting relationship when she sees she can benefit from the Relationship... Briffault's law. She will also be looking at compatibility, age will play a part here.

    By the time the average BP guy has his crap together to catch the eye of a woman that wants/needs to settle down cause "Her-clock-is-a-ticking", he has been starved for years or has been wallowing in the lowest or left overs SMV females. Most would jump at the chance to lock down a good looking "Girl". He's hungry... She will be looking at "How good of a father can he be to my toddler at his retirement age?" She wants to care for her children, not an old broken father of her children.... She wants lots of years of productive work in her mate, when she is ready to settle down.


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