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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    I have always found the church to be a barrier between me and my relationship with God. Church is a institution of men (and women) and in my experience most of these institutions concern themselves too much with worldly things. I have never felt closer to God than when I am experiencing His creation - go to the mountains, the ocean, whatever you have nearby, and witness His glory in creation. Praise Him with the appreciation of the world created for us. Leave the gossip from Betty and Shirley to someone else, along with the collection plate. Give glory to what is truly important.

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Of course Church offers nothing to older single men. You are of no use to the church; you don't marry or in all likelihood, have children. Even the churches view men as little more than a wage slave to raise children into the church, look after women and give them money. Everything in our world is designed to reduce a man to a walking ATM.

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Even if your church did have men's retreats, they'd most probably emphasize men as husbands and fathers. Singlehood would be regarded as a period of preparation for marriage and fatherhood. For divorced men, it would be regarded as a period of reflection on past mistakes, as well as preparation for the next marriage. That's just the way most expressions of Christianity are wired. You'd either have to go it alone through reading, personal reflection, and prayer (kind of like a spiritual hermit), or reach out to other happily single Christian men online. I'm guessing it wouldn't take long before your online fellowship would put you in contact with happily single Christian men in your area.

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    This was written in 1985 by a reverend:

    "The churches are in total disgrace. While dangling the scent of forbidden sex (the denial technique) under the noses of impressionable youth, churches all over the country are pushing marriage as a sanctified nirvana. They do nothing to educate their young members about one of the most dangerous parts of marriage: the enforceable aspects of the contract.

    Greedily insensitive to the times, and ignoring the ferocious legal implications, churches continue selling marriage while treating young nuptials as though they'd won first prize on a game show. Unfortunately, despite all the fancy wrapping, underneath lies the same old nasty contract with the state, the liabilities and humiliations for the husband.

    Churches are crawling with predatory females masquerading as born again lilies of the field, but ravenously seeking willing, naive males. Those who bite on the biblical "lord and master" routine being peddled by churchgoing predatory females, being more deluded than most, will find (after the camel gets its head in the tent) their scrotum stretchings twice as miserable."

    Reverend Lawrence Shannon: "The Predatory Female: A Field Guide To dating And The Marriage-Divorce Industry"pages 139-140. Banner Books, Inc. First edition 1985
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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Quote Originally Posted by gtrFreak View Post
    Churches are crawling with predatory females masquerading as born again lilies of the field, but ravenously seeking willing, naive males. Those who bite on the biblical "lord and master" routine (...)
    "I'm born again virgin now" - how pathetic.
    You know the church has lost it's way when it tries to burn down it's own roots.

    Idk how you but in my place every day the rethoric "God doesn't judge you. He loves you regardless who you are."
    is getting louder and more obnoxious.

    Doesn't that sound like a typical bitchthink? You aren't judged and you always are valuable.
    And even if you are not, you just need to pray hard enough and your hymen will magically regenerate.

    Yes - we certainly need women to have more say in our church.
    " A man without purpose finds it in women " - UCXIV

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Quote Originally Posted by bazalgette View Post
    "I'm born again virgin now" - how pathetic.
    You know the church has lost it's way when it tries to burn down it's own roots.

    Idk how you but in my place every day the rethoric "God doesn't judge you. He loves you regardless who you are."
    is getting louder and more obnoxious.

    Doesn't that sound like a typical bitchthink? You aren't judged and you always are valuable.
    And even if you are not, you just need to pray hard enough and your hymen will magically regenerate.

    Yes - we certainly need women to have more say in our church.
    BINGO!

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Quote Originally Posted by bazalgette View Post
    "I'm born again virgin now" - how pathetic.
    You know the church has lost it's way when it tries to burn down it's own roots.

    Idk how you but in my place every day the rethoric "God doesn't judge you. He loves you regardless who you are."
    is getting louder and more obnoxious.

    Doesn't that sound like a typical bitchthink? You aren't judged and you always are valuable.
    And even if you are not, you just need to pray hard enough and your hymen will magically regenerate.

    Yes - we certainly need women to have... (I'm new, links not allowed).
    Good one. This reminds me of "Everyone who signs up and participates, gets a trophy" and "Everyone's a winner" and where that comes from.

    On the subject of men's groups, can anyone shed light on how it is to be a member of the Knights of Columbus? Isn't that a Catholic men's group?

    On another note, I'm sympathetic to the idea that it's impossible for any particular church to appeal perfectly to everyone, given the diversity of experience and thought that each individual brings to their search for the almighty and a relationship with something called God that's so vaguely understood and bereft of perfect information. I rather think that it's OK to take what you (honestly) need from a religion's dogma and leave the rest of the stuff for others who may need it.

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Quote Originally Posted by _RPK_ View Post
    Of course Church offers nothing to older single men. You are of no use to the church; you don't marry or in all likelihood, have children. Even the churches view men as little more than a wage slave to raise children into the church, look after women and give them money. Everything in our world is designed to reduce a man to a walking ATM.
    My children are dead.

    At church I had two older women feign interest in me. At their age, I hope their Burial insurance (the $9.95 per unit type from Colonial Life) is fully paid. They asked me my name. I told them "it wasn't important" and left it at that.

    How much longer their lives will go on is anyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain View Post
    They asked me my name. I told them "it wasn't important" and left it at that.
    Did you seriously say that in real life at church? Savage

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    Re: Frustrating aspects of the Church and its lack of focus on unmarried men.

    Quote Originally Posted by opensource View Post
    Did you seriously say that in real life at church? Savage
    Yes, and why is that "savage"? No one really cares who you are. Everyone lives in their own "world". If who you are does not:

    a. Affect their pocketbook,

    b. Impact their personal lives in a material/personal/physical fashion, or,

    c. flashes upon their video/telephone screen.

    This is how people gauge life.


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