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    Friendly reminder: Please include comments when linking

    A periodic reminder: Please include comments when linking

    Hi guys,

    Sometimes we see posts that contain only a link to an external site without any comment placed by the member to introduce or otherwise explain the link. The post contains just a link, nothing else.

    Some of our users have expressed an unwillingness to click on links that are unaccompanied by user text, as possible spam or trolling.

    In concert with their concern, we are always seeking to improve the quality of this site and, yes, show users we are concerned about unacceptable material.

    To make your post more interesting and your link more desirable to pursue, will you please add your comments there, next to that link?

    This also applies to embedded videos. Don't count on the embedded video title to explain its content or why you posted it.

    Examples of text to add to your post should include any one or more of these ideas:

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    3) point out a highlight or two from the information found in the link/video
    4) mention how the information in the link/video affected you or your reaction to it

    Those are just examples to add value to your post. Pick one or more that may be least obvious to the members who will read your post. You may have additional comments you can make to have a smart posting.

    Your comments are necessary and are above and beyond any text or comments that you may elect to quote from your linked item.

    Thank you for your assistance in making this forum even better for all users.


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    Re: Friendly reminder: Please include comments when linking

    Agreed. Please try to add value to a link or a linked video. And "Hey check out this!" is not really enough. As Unboxxed has just said, if nothing else then at least describe what the link links to.

    And I might add one of my pet peeves at this point. Kindly don't do the opposite and post the content of a page that you could have just linked to. Especially don't do this without making it plain that you are quoting the content. Doing that is banworthy, because we have in the past has false-flags posting RP content that they had stolen.

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    A question of protocol?

    I would have replied to this post but could not as the thread has been closed.

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    Originally posted by Mr. Wombat

    Agreed. Please try to add value to a link or a linked video. And "Hey check out this!" is not really enough. As Unboxxed has just said, if nothing else then at least describe what the link links to.

    And I might add one of my pet peeves at this point. Kindly don't do the opposite and post the content of a page that you could have just linked to. Especially don't do this without making it plain that you are quoting the content. Doing that is banworthy, because we have in the past has false-flags posting RP content that they had stolen.
    I occasionally have posted the entire content of a post from another source. Whilst I always include a link to the original and mark the quote accordingly, I do not really see the harm here (with these provisions).

    I have been doing this to make it easier for the reader as they donít have to jump to another website to get what Iím saying. Is this a bad practice?

    I ask only in the hope of gaining understanding, not to provoke.
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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post

    I occasionally have posted the entire content of a post from another source. Whilst I always include a link to the original and mark the quote accordingly, I do not really see the harm here (with these provisions).

    I have been doing this to make it easier for the reader as they donít have to jump to another website to get what Iím saying. Is this a bad practice?

    I ask only in the hope of gaining understanding, not to provoke.
    I appreciate your question and it had also crossed my mind the way Mr Wombat wrote that might cause the question you have raised.

    While we wait for Wombat to clarify, I will offer that what we do not want is a member quoting from another site without including the link to it. We did have a member who wrote long messages, making new thread after new thread, that appeared as if what he wrote here came from him but in each case was copy-pasted from other people in other websites. To add to the problem, he selectively augmented/modified small portions of the text of some/many of his posts. This is plagiarism plus misrepresents. Very annoying. The member did not change his behavior so I banned him with malice. I don't like that shit. Who does. I believe Wombat is referring here to that banned member.

    I do what you do, and may copy the entire article along with the link, being very sure to encase quoted text and link in QUOTES to keep them apart from any of MY comments. Sometimes I do this replication as a convenience to members. Sometimes I do this to hopefully prevent excessive clicks to that site. Sometimes I suspect the link might disappear down the road so having the text replicated on our site will keep the thread meaningful here after time has gone by.

    I hope this clarifies it for you. Always link to your sources of quoted material and, as explained in one of our Lounge stickies, don't just link but add your own comments to that post with clear separation between what is yours and what is quoted from elsewhere. I have seen your posts and you do the good job of it.

    We seek to be a meaningful and intelligent site, not just some pedestrian click-through billboard. Links without member comments do not help this goal. Most members are in compliance with it. I will gently add that, if anyone is a member who does a poor job of separating his personal comments from his quoted material, or omits his own comments altogether (basically "re-tweeting"), I reserve the right to not chase behind him and edit his post to improve the formatting or nag him about it but quietly remove the post without notice to anyone but the posting member, if even to him. I mean, the member obviously has an opinion about the material that he was moved to replicate here, so bring it to us, doggone it. I believe I have served much notice on this site about this otherwise minor issue which, just as for Wombat, has become a pet peeve of mine.

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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Somebody on the afvm site actually posted some of my stuff on other sites with a slight modification of my name. It was very weird.

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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    Somebody on the afvm site actually posted some of my stuff on other sites with a slight modification of my name. It was very weird.
    Your right, that is weird. Obviously not an attempt at plagiarism. Do you think maybe just a typo or honest mistake?
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    Re: A question of protocol?

    The ultimate act of plagiarism is no doubt stolen valor, perhaps they want to "feelz good"? I wouldn't know, I pride myself on my own individuality, good or bad.

    Being an impostor must require a whole lot of emptiness inside...

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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    While we wait for Wombat to clarify, I will offer that what we do not want is a member quoting from another site without including the link to it.
    Yeah, that guy got banned because he was dishonest, because he was lying to us with every one of these plagiarised and falsified posts. I remember thinking "this new guy is awesome" and then finding out he was a fake.

    I dislike (and that's all it is: 'dislike') bulk copy-pasting even with reference because … I dunno. I kinda want to read what the guys here say, not someone else's thoughts that they agree with. I dislike it because it gives me in minature the same dissapointment as that other guy: "Hey this is an amazing post! Oh hang on, it's just a slab of text copied from somewhere else." I dislike it because a bulk-copied post loses context, certainly loses formatting. I dislike it because there's a difference between watching Monty Python and having someone recite it to you.

    But you know, I think it's mostly this: it just hurts my programmer's soul to see data stored redundantly.

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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    I would have replied to this post but could not as the thread has been closed.

    Here:
    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...61/#post145261
    In a day or so, as discussion winds down, I will merge this open thread with that closed thread.


    EDIT: I've now merged them.
    Last edited by Unboxxed; September 21, 2019 at 7:59 PM.
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    Re: A question of protocol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post

    I dislike (and that's all it is: 'dislike') bulk copy-pasting even with reference because … I dunno. I kinda want to read what the guys here say, not someone else's thoughts that they agree with. I dislike it because it gives me in minature the same dissapointment as that other guy: "Hey this is an amazing post! Oh hang on, it's just a slab of text copied from somewhere else." I dislike it because a bulk-copied post loses context, certainly loses formatting. I dislike it because there's a difference between watching Monty Python and having someone recite it to you.

    But you know, I think it's mostly this: it just hurts my programmer's soul to see data stored redundantly.

    O.K. Got it. Thanks for the clarification.
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