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    Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    We all remember back when we were stuck in the game that was slanted against us. To find a girlfriend, you had to have the guts to approach women and get shot down, and then to do that over and over again. Then when you finally do get a hit, she might have just given you a fake number, or it might be real, but she flakes out later. It was a major, major hassle. Then if you do get a date, you have to pay for it, and many women expect you to choose something expensive like a five-star restaurant. You can easily fork out 20, 30, or 40K before you finally have a regular, long-term girlfriend. Thank God we've all opted out of this shitty, rigged game, but I still feel for young dudes out there trying to make it work.

    With this massive advantage in favor of women, what do the feminists do? Do they say, "Wow, we're privileged. We're so lucky it's so much easier for us"? Hell, no. As usual, they piss and moan, and try to convince people that they're the ones in the shitty position. I wonder when's the last time one of them spent 30K to find a boyfriend, only to have him flake out and monkey branch six months later.

    Now feminists are demanding to use this "no means no" bullshit to make it easier to brush dudes off. The thing is, they often don't say "no," but instead use invite-back language. If some dude asked a woman out, and she declined by saying, "Maybe some other time," she did NOT say no. She said not this time, but invited him back to ask again. So if she bitches about that dude asking her out again, she's being an unreasonable cunt.

    Plus, even if she flat-out said "no," and he comes back to ask again, she shouldn't flip out. In sales, you haven't done your job if you haven't attempted to overcome "no" and their objection six times. Some people want to buy the car, the boat, the house, or whatever, but have nervous reservations. Thus, if you talk with them, and find out their concerns, an initial "no" might turn into a yes. This is nothing new. Every salesman worth his salt knows this. In fact, it's extremely rare for a client to say "yes" the first time. However, if they've said "no" seven times or more, they're not buyers, and it's time to move on.

    But if "no" has been said 6 times or less, you're still in the overcoming objections phase, and no one should be pissed off at that salesman for having a conversation and seeing if their objections can be overcome.

    It's the same thing in asking a woman out on a date. That's a sales presentation. If she pisses and moans over the dude trying to overcome objections while "no" has only happened 6 times or less, she's being an unreasonable cunt. She's just being a shitty, hateful feminist.

    I did PUA before I went MGTOW, and PUA is basically just sales training adapted to picking up women. I had plenty of consensual sex after the woman initially said "no," but I was able to, via a proper sales conversation, get her to agree to a "yes."

    Basically, for the 100 zillionth time, feminists are just being unreasonable, absurd, and whiny. If she used "invite back" language, she has nothing to bitch about. If she said, "Maybe some other time" and then he asks again some other time, that's because she put the invitation out there. If she bitches about that, she's been a whiny, hateful feminist. If she did actually say "no", but she hasn't said that seven or more times, he hasn't finished standard sales "overcome objections" practice. If she then does feminist whining, she's just being a cunt. She's just following her feminist cult training.

    I know what I'm talking about. I used to sell Jaguar cars. You got used to seeing that look in their eyes that told you the person wanted the car. Overcoming objections was just a normal part of the process. Then when I did PUA, it was basically the same, except you were selling yourself rather than a car. Feminists should know this basic sales. They've sold to the public a valueless, sick, and evil cult of hate. You can be 100 percent guaranteed they also overcame objections when they were selling that garbage.

    I'm not ashamed of having once sold luxury cars. At least the person got some high value for their money. Feminists have sold people nothing but a pipe dream and a trashy culture of hate.

    I'm not ashamed of having done PUA either. Driving a nice Jaguar and having nice suits was a huge help in that, but I got sick and tired of it. Most of the women were greedy trash who wanted to hitch their wagon to you and manipulate you into marrying up so that you became their permanent ATM. Some others were just trashy, horny sluts who fucked different dudes all the time. I was lucky to escape without any STDs, unless you count one gross yeast infection on my balls.

    I'm now retired from car sales and from PUA, and I don't miss either one. If I had gone by the asinine feminist "no means no" bullshit, I would have barely sold any Jags, and I would have had to wank instead of bedding women.

    But the whole thing was rather sleazy. Now after the pound me-too movement, it's way to dangerous to use PUA sales techniques to get laid. Those techniques work if you're in reasonably good shape, and you have the right props like a luxury car and nice suits. But I figured out that those loathsome slovenly slatterns weren't worth the jizz I shot into them, and if I kept spurting my loads into their slits, it would come back to haunt me. So I quit.

    With my new MGTOW/no dating life, my life is way simpler. My Jaguar actually went up in value, and I sold it and invested the money. Nowadays if some PUA-dude is out there overcoming objections to turn a "no" into a "yes," he's playing with fire. Feminazis have convinced too many people that this normal sales conversation is really predatory or a form of rape. It feels absurd to write that, but they've actually convinced millions of women of that horse shit. If they can convinced the public that their pile of green horseshit covered in flies is actually a liberation for women, they could sell anything. If they put their mind to it, they could sell almost any car or houses, boats, whatever. But they sell a feminist cult instead, and they're out to destroy men.

    I'm probably not the only ex salesman here. As absurd as it is, you can now be arrested and thrown in prison for decades over doing a normal PUA-based sales presentation.

    Man, am I ever glad I found MGTOW when I did. I'm retired of this bullshit. If you have the itch to fuck someone, just hire a professional instead. She'll only expect you to pay her rate. She won't be out to take control over your life.

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Feminists and gynocentric society is constantly barraging men with this messaging of giving up because they simply want to control. Do not yield your own sovereignty to anyone.

    Some will say it is just another form of a fitness test but I think it goes deeper. This level of control of keeping the "undesirable" men from reaching their own freedom and potential is a threat to 80/20 dynamic that is common.

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    You can easily fork out 20, 30, or 40K before you finally have a regular, long-term girlfriend. Thank God we've all opted out of this shitty, rigged game, but I still feel for young dudes out there trying to make it work.

    I wonder when's the last time one of them spent 30K to find a boyfriend, only to have him flake out and monkey branch six months later.
    Exactly, it's the blue pill providers that enabled that kind of entitlement. If a woman spent 30k to find a boyfriend you'd think she's desperate. And no one respect that.

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Wait... there are some women complaining???

    ​I am surprised. ��

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by ImpishCornerstone View Post
    Exactly, it's the blue pill providers that enabled that kind of entitlement. If a woman spent 30k to find a boyfriend you'd think she's desperate. And no one respect that.
    Yes, the dudes dumping huge sums of money down the black hole of dating are certainly desperate, and the women don't respect them, but it's become the norm. We're the sane ones. We MGTOW have opted out of this sick and rigged game.

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Feminists and gynocentric society is constantly barraging men with this messaging of giving up because they simply want to control. Do not yield your own sovereignty to anyone.

    Some will say it is just another form of a fitness test but I think it goes deeper. This level of control of keeping the "undesirable" men from reaching their own freedom and potential is a threat to 80/20 dynamic that is common.
    Yup, Women want a reserved army of betas to be called on any time a woman needs beta buxs or some other use.

    If thoses men stop longing for women and live for themselves, they are no longer controllable. Hence why the banned mgtow from the mainstream internet.

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    Re: Feminists should quit whining about dudes who try to find a girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Yes, the dudes dumping huge sums of money down the black hole of dating are certainly desperate, and the women don't respect them, but it's become the norm. We're the sane ones. We MGTOW have opted out of this sick and rigged game.
    The nearest dudes to me (geographically) are all working their ass off to satisfy their temporary women in the rinse and repeat cycle this shithole society has placed us on. I have the same material wealth after decades of acquiring all by my self with a single income household, but the difference is my time is mine, it's not someone else's and I don't have to keep the same frantic pace with all the extra stress.

    When it ends for these chumps, they'll be half as wealthy looking for another lineup.

    My mom's generation is the last of the female helpers that contribute instead of extract. Like the dinosaurs before them, extinction has altered the landscape giving rise to the man that goes his own way and does his own thing.

    When it comes to female helpers, I don't want or need any help getting raked over the coals and screwed in the ass!

    Rejecting treachery and those that deliver it is not hatred, as Tig put it; "We're the sane ones", and our sanity is encouraged to overrule and trump against all the odds.

    We see them coming and we GTFO the way!
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.



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