Thread: feminists shaming anti-feminists in the msm

washington (com)post article shames anti-feminists for daring to leave the plantation:

'the phenomenon began on tumblr, with women taking photographs of themselves holding signs that explain their reasons for opposing feminism. the site has been online since july 2013, but it's only in the last month that it's really started to generate heat online. women's statements range from claims that men are now the true victims of discrimination, to homophobic categorizations of feminists as 'man-haters' and 'lesbians'.

any social justice movement with a long history and diverse adherents will exhibit contradictions and problematic ideas. however, women against feminism is not only ahistorical, but fundamentally misreads the nature of feminism and the current status of women.'

Women who hate on feminists hurt all women - The Washington Post

men are now the true victims of discrimination.​

"Also, people regularly travel and migrate. Things might be better “where you live,” but what if you want to go somewhere where women aren’t allowed to drive, gain an education, or report a rape?"

​Then must those places cede to Western women's demands as well? If not, is it the fault of the sexist Western patriarchy for not making those destinations more amenable? If for some reason she wants to travel to places like these, then why must the conditions there be so disagreeable? Why can't she traipse around in the manner to which she is accustomed? Is this Dr Michelle's "logic"?

By all means, send her to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan. Let her witness the lives of women who are truly oppressed. On second thought, she might not even notice. Because Western women are solipsistic monsters.

Originally Posted by harlowe

"Also, people regularly travel and migrate. Things might be better “where you live,” but what if you want to go somewhere where women aren’t allowed to drive, gain an education, or report a rape?"

​Then must those places cede to Western women's demands as well? If not, is it the fault of the sexist Western patriarchy for not making those destinations more amenable? If for some reason she wants to travel to places like these, then why must the conditions there be so disagreeable? Why can't she traipse around in the manner to which she is accustomed? Is this Dr Michelle's "logic"?

By all means, send her to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan. Let her witness the lives of women who are truly oppressed. On second thought, she might not even notice. Because Western women are solipsistic monsters.

I think I can answer this on the feminists' behalf.

Originally Posted by Feminist4Life

Yes, they must accept our demands. There can be no negotiation on this; otherwise we will have failed all women.

We must ensure the safety of all women as they travel anywhere and stamp out any anti-women ideas in those areas. Anything that a woman may find offensive to her is obviously a plan by the patriarchy to oppress her.

Originally Posted by I_Jedi

I think I can answer this on the feminists' behalf.

Where was that posted?

I would pay to see idiots like that spout their drivel to the Saudi patriarchy. No feminist tourist could fathom such a colossal dose of reality.

And then of course they would turn desperately to the Western patriarchy to save their asses.

Originally Posted by harlowe

By all means, send her to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan. Let her witness the lives of women who are truly oppressed. On second thought, she might not even notice. Because Western women are solipsistic monsters.

Not another proponent of this absolute drivel. Please tell me, first, where do you get your information about these supposedly "oppressed" women? I'm going to assume you get it from white Western feminist media? Do you see how this is a problem? You're not getting information, you're absorbing propaganda.

Women in the Middle East, in Africa, in Islamic countries, or what have you, are not any more oppressed than their men. That's a fairytale, a myth, a stupidity that won't die, much like the wage gap idiocy.

Women are not treated like chattel without sentience, and life for men isn't simply hourly blowjobs and rainbows and cute kitties.

It's a fairly large subject, so please begin educating yourself: Ali Mehraspand, Zara Faris | Muslim Researcher and Speaker

The continuing perception in courts and the general community that women are better suited to raise children, while men are better equipped to be in the workforce, is not a “right” that women enjoy. In dozens of ways, this belief restricts and hampers women’s rights and capacity to earn.

Then why don't you fight to CHANGE the perception, and have feminist campaigns showing how men are just as well suited to raise children, and therefore should have a better chance in courts of having custody or even access to their children in a divorce?

(Crickets)

I thought so.

More proof that feminist arguments are simply "hot air", insincere and hollow. Then, we remember that Feminism is not actually a legitimate, intellectual movement, but rather thinly-veiled score-settling from overweight, undesirable women who are viscerally resentful towards the more capable sex. One look at the blubbery face of the author and you get a sense of just how many times she was passed over for more interesting, and vivacious women -- and how that takes a toll on the psyche. Then they discover a "movement" that lets them channel the cumulative butthurt of a 1,000 rejections and instances of being ignored....and they can even be insufferably condescending at the same time.

What Women Against Feminism and similar movements are about is pretty simple. For years, men let women get away with being our enemies ("feminists") because we thought it was harmless. Now that we create consequences for women we know to be feminists, the rest of the women are smart enough to know that allying with them is a losing cause. We had an employee join recently who announced in her intro email that she was an "intersectional feminist". I have yet to greet her and I never will.

Men have not changed; there hasn't been a movement to force them to do so. The divide between the genders is because men are taking stock of what women have devolved into, and are walking away, claiming their birthright which is their independence. The ugly failed women are desperate to foist their misery on their sisters; it will be interesting to see just how many women realize they actually want men in their lives and see that as a better option that joining hands with the dregs of humanity.

Originally Posted by Lepanto

Please tell me, first, where do you get your information about these supposedly "oppressed" women?

The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs, by David Pryce-Jones
Beyond the Veil: Male-Female Dynamics in the Modern Muslim Society, by Fatima Mernissi
On Saudi Arabia:Its People, Past, Religion, Fault Lines - and Future, by Karen Elliott House
Inside the Kingdom: My Life in Saudi Arabia, by Carmen bin Ladin

I've read them all. Western feminists should as well.

whites who hate on the KKK hurt all whites.

does anyone else not see this?

Women are now fighting amongst themselves.

This is good. They will leave men be and catfight themselves to oblivion.

We men get front row seats to a hilarious real life comedy show....

Originally Posted by jagrmeister

More proof that feminist arguments are simply "hot air", insincere and hollow. Then, we remember that Feminism is not actually a legitimate, intellectual movement, but rather thinly-veiled score-settling from overweight, undesirable women who are viscerally resentful towards the more capable sex. One look at the blubbery face of the author and you get a sense of just how many times she was passed over for more interesting, and vivacious women -- and how that takes a toll on the psyche. Then they discover a "movement" that lets them channel the cumulative butthurt of a 1,000 rejections and instances of being ignored

excellent summary.

adding this here since it was also published in the washington (com)post on a related topic:

'men punished for sexual misconduct in the wave of cases sweeping college campuses are fighting back against what they call unfair student disciplinary systems and publicity that threatens to shatter their reputations.

they fiercely dispute the validity of internal investigations that rely on a lower standard of proof for determining misconduct than what is required for a conviction of a sex crime.'

Men punished in sexual misconduct cases on colleges campuses are fighting back - The Washington Post

is it any surprise that cunts are now the majority of students in american universities?

Originally Posted by I_Jedi

I think I can answer this on the feminists' behalf.

Originally Posted by Feminist4Life

Yes, they must accept our demands. There can be no negotiation on this; otherwise we will have failed all women.

Riight, and how does that play out - practically speaking? How can foreign peoples be made to capitulate to our society's demands?

There's only one way - force. Once again, we see the female penchant for proxy violence.

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

adding this here since it was also published in the washington (com)post on a related topic:

'men punished for sexual misconduct in the wave of cases sweeping college campuses are fighting back against what they call unfair student disciplinary systems and publicity that threatens to shatter their reputations.

they fiercely dispute the validity of internal investigations that rely on a lower standard of proof for determining misconduct than what is required for a conviction of a sex crime.'

Men punished in sexual misconduct cases on colleges campuses are fighting back - The Washington Post

is it any surprise that cunts are now the majority of students in american universities?

love love fucking LOVE that headline.

the story is about falsely accused men, swept up in a flurry of false rape accusations by sick evil twats who are allowed to basically get away with murder.

the left wing MSM traitorous fifth column jukes the stats, bargains the crime down to "sexual misconduct" so the soccer moms and dead eyed manginas don't fear sweat into their pajamas, and maintains the accusation that these men are guilty sight unseen.

even when men fight for their rights, the entire culture brings all it's guns to bear on us.

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

washington (com)post article shames anti-feminists for daring to leave the plantation:

'the phenomenon began on tumblr, with women taking photographs of themselves holding signs that explain their reasons for opposing feminism. the site has been online since july 2013, but it's only in the last month that it's really started to generate heat online. women's statements range from claims that men are now the true victims of discrimination, to homophobic categorizations of feminists as 'man-haters' and 'lesbians'.

any social justice movement with a long history and diverse adherents will exhibit contradictions and problematic ideas. however, women against feminism is not only ahistorical, but fundamentally misreads the nature of feminism and the current status of women.'

Women who hate on feminists hurt all women - The Washington Post

men are now the true victims of discrimination.​

It's fascinating to watch how things have changed in the past two years.

My own first discovery of this whole "debate/inter-class war" made it feel like I was really the one at fault.

Within a year, gained the confidence to look at this with a more objective eye and realized that I'm not a complete asshole/rapist just because I'm a guy. It wasn't a prevalent thought, more a subconscious narrative when I would go out in public where I would become aware of the possibility of things going south quickly. One wrong encounter and I could end up trying to defend myself against nothing to the police, who seem to be stacked against guys. It's a crazy thought to be having.

Now, there's this online backlash against people who take advantage of "the system," particularly the girls who abuse and utilize the auto-sympathy trigger that many people have in their assumptions that "girls are never wrong or lie" (I guess we call that white-knighting). It's unfortunate, because there are some horrible dudes out there that need to be "brought to justice" for beating their wives with a baseball bat, and those women need to be the ones who are using the system to protect themselves. But at the end of the day, there are horrible women who psychologically manipulate the system and the guys around them, which breaks our ability to trust that what others are saying isn't a sack of shit.

Glad to see how the internet has begun this shift toward showing both sides of abuse, and not allowing girls to get away with rationalizations/hamstering for their irresponsible behavior.

Another side rant to myself.

Solid post, keep it up.

Originally Posted by Darth Sin

Women are now fighting amongst themselves.

This is good. They will leave men be and catfight themselves to oblivion.

Of course they are. It's how they operate. Without fail, environments where women are in charge - ones where there are no men to answer to - devolve into quagmires of bitterness, hostility, abuse, and unintended consequences. I can't count the number of times I've seen a woman push hard to accomplish something, and then when the dust has settled and she's surveying the wreckage, she says, "Well that's not what I intended to happen at all!" The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Even if the femtards got everything they wanted from men (and sent those who didn't comply to the gas chambers) they still wouldn't be happy. They'd simply turn on each other.

The positive thing that I take away from the publication of articles like these in the mainstream media, is that the backlash against radical feminism's overreach is becoming too widespread to ignore.

Originally Posted by harlowe

Where was that posted?

I would pay to see idiots like that spout their drivel to the Saudi patriarchy. No feminist tourist could fathom such a colossal dose of reality.

And then of course they would turn desperately to the Western patriarchy to save their asses.

Perhaps we should start a Kickstarter fund to send prominent Feminists to Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any country ending with stan. Part of the funding could be that for each dollar you contribute you get one vote as to who to send. I think this could work. In ancient Athens they had a yearly vote where any citizen could write the name of another citizen on a pottery shard (an ostrakia) and the one that got the most votes was banished from the city for 10 years. This is now known as ostracism based on the Greek for the pottery shard.

On the down side, do I really hate the people of those countries that bad? And how would they react to what is undoubtedly an act of war?

On second thought this could be construed as a violation of the Geneva conventions and as a war crime or a crime against humanity. It is at least as bad as biological warfare or using poison gas.

Originally Posted by Mikediver

Perhaps we should start a Kickstarter fund to send prominent Feminists to Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any country ending with stan. Part of the funding could be that for each dollar you contribute you get one vote as to who to send. I think this could work. In ancient Athens they had a yearly vote where any citizen could write the name of another citizen on a pottery shard (an ostrakia) and the one that got the most votes was banished from the city for 10 years. This is now known as ostracism based on the Greek for the pottery shard.

On the down side, do I really hate the people of those countries that bad? And how would they react to what is undoubtedly an act of war?

Where do I mail the check??!!

Originally Posted by ImmuneToAG

As productive women (if there even is such a thing) begin to take notice that they are the ones supporting the welfare/warfare state, they'll realize increasingly they are the suckers holding the bag. More and more men are dropping out in various ways enjoying their resources for themselves. Bar Bar had a great video on this today titled MGTOW News. He was reading off headlines about shelter(s) getting shut down because they do not offer services for men. I'm a libertarian and at core I believe it's not the government's business to offer shelters to begin with, but since there's a snowball's chance in hell of that, his view is the right approach to get more support in the political process for men in need of shelters in equal proportion as women receive. This will spread awareness. Also Bar Bar read off a reddit post that there will be fewer men in poverty once there's an artificial womb or male birth control because they won't be stuck paying stiff wealth transfers.

Yeah we see this in Japan already where the "career woman" pretty much resents the woman down the hall from her that lives off of government welfare and has children while she works the crazy hours that was once reserved for Japanese salary men. The grass definitely isn't greener on the other side if you are on a treadmill.