Thread: Fat Acceptance is Pressuring Guys to Date Women They Find Unattractive

Why should I be forced to date someone I'm not attracted to? I thought freedom of choice was a thing.

The fat acceptance movement is ONLY about accepting fat women. Men aren't allowed to have any dating standards at all or we're fatphobic, ugly-phobic, or whatever. However the same FA women totally judge men by appearance. Women reject men for height, OR FOR BEING FAT, all the time.

This is one of the 20 billion ways in which feminists are hypocrites.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

The fat acceptance movement is ONLY about accepting fat women. Men aren't allowed to have any dating standards at all or we're fatphobic, ugly-phobic, or whatever. However the same FA women totally judge men by appearance. Women reject men for height, OR FOR BEING FAT, all the time.

This is one of the 20 billion ways in which feminists are hypocrites.

I had a fat acceptance moment today (looking at the Thanksgiving turkey).

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

The fat acceptance movement is ONLY about accepting fat women. Men aren't allowed to have any dating standards at all or we're fatphobic, ugly-phobic, or whatever. However the same FA women totally judge men by appearance. Women reject men for height, OR FOR BEING FAT, all the time.

This is one of the 20 billion ways in which feminists are hypocrites.

No wonder why all fat acceptance media is made for Women.

Men are constantly told to go to the gym. It will cure everything!

We are told to accept women no matter what but they only accept Chad.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

Men are constantly told to go to the gym. It will cure everything!

We are told to accept women no matter what but they only accept Chad.

This is the reality. 90% of the guys slaving away in the gym 5 days a week,, forcing themselves to eat until they could puke and possibly taking roids are all doing it to be accepted by women. Most of the dudes won’t admit it though.

And yes, the advice to hit the gym is routinely given to men everywhere you look with not a soul thinking about how hypocritical the logic is. Take for example a guy around average height that’s say 150lbs….people will tell him to hit the gym ASAP and bulk up to get dates even though he’s *100% at a healthy weight already.* It’s like men are climbing over each other trying to get to the weights while women sit back eating bonbons saying “accept us” and waiting for a buff dude to sweep them off their feet.

For this reason, I often have thoughts that guys who obsess over working out to “look better” are a kind of simp groveling at the feet of women.

These are my observations as someone who long ago left dating behind.

They may intend to pressure men into dating fat women, but can they really?

Of course there are plenty of men who like the look. I mean chubby, not the real behemoths.
Also men who will settle for anything with a pussy. And a small number of behemoth fetishists.

The real issue is fat women who are also aggressively ugly on purpose. And loud.
That is becoming increasingly common, more so than just overweight.

Fat acceptance is literally just a movement trying to guilt trip, shame and coerce people into finding them sexually attractive. It's incel as fuck, and horribly rapey.

"No means no!"

"My body, my choice!""

"Waahhhhh, Chad Sixpack doesn't get a boner for my rolls and folds, hate crime REEEEEEEE!!!!"

The people pushing fat acceptance are the same ones who still believe that men under 6ft tall should kill themselves.

The people pushing for men to be guilt-tripped into achieving insta-boners for people they aren't attracted to are the same ones who say that we live in a rape culture. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

For this reason, I often have thoughts that guys who obsess over working out to “look better” are a kind of simp groveling at the feet of women.

Good Point, I agree.

The idea of working out to look better for someone is flawed and will only lead to disappointment when rejection happens, rejection will happen...

Working out to improve your own fitness and health or doing it for yourself is what men should do. Obesity in men is a problem and not healthy. Many of us do not get enough exercise in our daily routines and would be healthier going to the gym or having a home gym. If you want to bulk up and do that look, fine but do it naturally and stay away from drugs.

Women's sexual attraction is geared toward the "6 sixes". This is for a biological reason, these make men healthy. We can't change some things like height or length, but we can change fitness, financial income etc to better ourselves. Do it for you, for a better you.

This was good video to watch, defenitly shows the double standards. Notice how there was no 'big guy' there was one big woman though.

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

Good Point, I agree.

The idea of working out to look better for someone is flawed and will only lead to disappointment when rejection happens, rejection will happen...

Working out to improve your own fitness and health or doing it for yourself is what men should do. Obesity in men is a problem and not healthy. Many of us do not get enough exercise in our daily routines and would be healthier going to the gym or having a home gym. If you want to bulk up and do that look, fine but do it naturally and stay away from drugs.

Women's sexual attraction is geared toward the "6 sixes". This is for a biological reason, these make men healthy. We can't change some things like height or length, but we can change fitness, financial income etc to better ourselves. Do it for you, for a better you.

^^^ This

Setting up a smart workout and a healthy eating plan is a positive thing, and I'm 100 percent behind doing it for YOURSELF, not to please women. Your workout doesn't even have to be designed to give you a super muscular shape. It's perfectly acceptable to have a cardio-vascular fitness and flexible workout strategy. Maybe you need to take off 30 pounds or more. It's fine to go lean and make a super fit and healthy heart without bulking up to look like Conan the Barbarian. Or you could go for some musculature, but not a body-building type of body. You find what's best for you.

A big obstacle in the United States is our food production system and fast food culture. Almost any meal you get from fast food will have WAY too many calories and way too much unhealthy crap in it. Then in supermarkets, you can find plenty of healthy food, but there's also aisle after aisle of junk to tempt you. At least here in the US, and probably in several other countries, you can't get fit and healthy unless you address the issue of disciplining yourself to reject the huge amount of atrociously bad food available. I honestly don't think it can be done if you eat out a lot. Even in regular restaurants, there's a lot of junk on the menu, and portion sizes are absurdly big. You pretty much have to cook for yourself, and learn to cook stuff that's healthy and won't throw excess calories into your system.

But I can't emphasize enough to do it for YOURSELF, not to please women. Even if you get super buff and attractive, that doesn't change female nature. Especially in the feminist age, women don't see you as a human being whose thoughts, goals, and feelings are important. If you become desirable, you become just a tool for them to use instead of a simp to ignore. She'll fuck you for a while, and then monkey branch and divorce rape you without the slightest pangs of guilt. Even if somehow some of her empathy comes through and she has some guilt, her feminazi friends will support her, no matter how bad her behavior, and help her to send those guilt feelings away.

You've got to focus on the benefits of getting healthy and fit for YOU. It will help you to feel better, and you'll already start to feel a lot better before you've totally lost the X pounds you need to. You'll be able to lead a more fun and active lifestyle. If you get fit, and especially if you have a good-paying profession, women will come out of the woodworks to use you. Don't let them.

One more thing: I'm okay with the original fat acceptance idea, which simply said not to be rude to fat people. I don't go around calling anyone a fat pig or butting into their lives or whatever. They lost me, however, when they started demanding that we lie to fat people by telling them that it's perfectly healthy, and when they started demanding that men be attracted to fat women.

Obese women AREN'T attractive, and will never be attractive, no matter how many photos of blimpies they publish or how much they scream about fat shaming.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

A big obstacle in the United States is our food production system and fast food culture. Almost any meal you get from fast food will have WAY too many calories and way too much unhealthy crap in it.

I met a fitness trainer a couple weeks ago, we had a conversation about his startup mini-farm, to his dismay my friend and I fired back about our veggie gardens, chickens, and unprocessed foods, we didn't even have to go into it, we were all on the same page, in the last two weeks I've consumed popcorn pheasant, Bambi chili, and Bambi pot pie!

I've noticed allot more game in my diet, just from the friends I know, I thinking about doing more fishing and hunting as prices go up and availability go down, besides that, nobody injects Bambi with hormones, antibiotics, and the heavy metals that are in the "stuff"...

No alcohol, is another absolute must, unless you're using it as a solvent wearing rubber gloves.

All I drink from a can time to time in the hot summer is spindrift, that's it...

Originally Posted by mgtower

I met a fitness trainer a couple weeks ago, we had a conversation about his startup mini-farm, to his dismay my friend and I fired back about our veggie gardens, chickens, and unprocessed foods, we didn't even have to go into it, we were all on the same page, in the last two weeks I've consumed popcorn pheasant, Bambi chili, and Bambi pot pie!

I've noticed allot more game in my diet, just from the friends I know, I thinking about doing more fishing and hunting as prices go up and availability go down, besides that, nobody injects Bambi with hormones, antibiotics, and the heavy metals that are in the "stuff"...

No alcohol, is another absolute must, unless you're using it as a solvent wearing rubber gloves.

All I drink from a can time to time in the hot summer is spindrift, that's it...

I know some hunters who only eat meat that they've killed themselves. They don't ever go to the supermarket to buy ground beef or whatever, and they don't eat out. They have a special freezer in the garage with the venison, and whatever else they've hunted.

They don't even eat meat with every meal. In some cases, they'll make some vegetarian bean chili that slow cooks all day, and is very good. They can do that if they're running low on meat or just don't want to defrost any right then.

These people aren't fat! They've also showed that you don't have to have meat with every meal. It's perfectly acceptable to make a meal out of something like their bean chili or a bean burrito. I honestly think that's a better choice than to eat some of the poor-quality, hormone-infused meat from the supermarket. My mom has my grandmother's cook book with a bunch of hand-written recipes. A whole bunch of her recipes that were handed down probably from her mom are without meat. We made her split pea soup recipe that contained no meat, and it was great.

The point is "vegetarian" isn't a dirty word. You can make a lot of really good quality meatless meals when good quality meat isn't available. One meatless meal doesn't mean you have to give up meat in all your other meals. And, as you pointed out, meat that you've hunted in the world is almost always of superior quality to most of the junk available in stores.

If I ate six plant-based dinners a week and one meat dinner, but that one was high quality hunted venison, I would take that over a week of fast food any day. I've also cooked meals with very small amounts of meat. I've experimented with Japanese soups based on Shiitake mushroom broth and lots of vegetables, and just a small amount of diced fish in it such as Salmon. A meal like that will beat the pants off of going to Red Robin for a burger, fries, and a Coke.

The point is, there are plenty of options that are healthier: plant-based, minimal meat, or hunted meat. Every one of those clobbers any fast food you can get.

I've also thrown alcohol out of my life. Here's my current huge struggle: soda pop. I grew up loving it, and when I don't have it, I fucking crave it. It's driving me nuts because it's sabotaging other good health habits I've gone to.

Just be careful on sourcing hunted meats and fish as well...my buddy hunts deer every year in the forest around thousands and thousands of acres of farms growing all kinds of GMO corn etc. Says it's the best deer ever - well no shit. Certainly not a natural diet for a deer...and those farms are basically chemical dumping grounds. I know people who hunt (and eat) bear that definitely range around landfills. Same goes for fishing...know your source.

And definitely ditch the soda Tig!

Originally Posted by KRFJames

Just be careful on sourcing hunted meats and fish as well...my buddy hunts deer every year in the forest around thousands and thousands of acres of farms growing all kinds of GMO corn etc. Says it's the best deer ever - well no shit. Certainly not a natural diet for a deer...and those farms are basically chemical dumping grounds. I know people who hunt (and eat) bear that definitely range around landfills. Same goes for fishing...know your source.

And definitely ditch the soda Tig!

I'm finding it harder to ditch the soda than it was to give up alcohol. That shit must have addictive properties. I feel better after I drink one. I'm thinking of trying self-hypnosis. I used it to break some other habits, including the alcohol thing. I didn't realize getting rid of soda would be this difficult.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

I'm finding it harder to ditch the soda than it was to give up alcohol. That shit must have addictive properties. I feel better after I drink one. I'm thinking of trying self-hypnosis. I used it to break some other habits, including the alcohol thing. I didn't realize getting rid of soda would be this difficult.

Check the label, if there's high fructose corn syrup don't consume it, it's worse than sugar in that it gets converted to fat before it can be processed as energy. Sugar's bad enough, but the corn syrup's the worst, it's just as bad as alcohol, not that sugar's any better.

Try spindrift, it's the only carbonated drink I can guzzle. The rest taste like log-cabin syrup vs. 100% Vermont amber maple (the syrup you can drink).

Originally Posted by mgtower

Check the label, if there's high fructose corn syrup don't consume it, it's worse than sugar in that it gets converted to fat before it can be processed as energy. Sugar's bad enough, but the corn syrup's the worst, it's just as bad as alcohol, not that sugar's any better.

Try spindrift, it's the only carbonated drink I can guzzle. The rest taste like log-cabin syrup vs. 100% Vermont amber maple (the syrup you can drink).

Yes, almost any soda you find in the US nowadays is made with high fructose corn syrup. If that shit's more addictive, it explains a lot. Thanks for the heads up on this Spindrift stuff. Gonna check it out.

This fat acceptance movement is fine for whoever wishes to participate. But I do not wish to participate. I will not ignore how fat my date is. I will not refer to her by some made-up pronoun because she doesn't know what bathroom to use. And I will not select my dates while wearing a blindfold...

Being a man, I have to perform to a certain minimum standard in order to qualify for a date.
And, I have to agree that we (men and women) are equal.

Therefore, women must also perform to a minimum standard...

Is it really doing that though? The only men I see dating fat women are Indian men who have a hard on for white (mostly blonde) women and don't care if the woman is fat trailer trash because her being blonde and white in itself is like an achievement for them.

I don't think too many men really sit there watching fat acceptance vids and say "Hey, I've been far too judgmental. I should date that fugly fat chick who can barely walk a block before needing to sit down".

Originally Posted by Kryptic

Is it really doing that though? The only men I see dating fat women are Indian men who have a hard on for white (mostly blonde) women and don't care if the woman is fat trailer trash because her being blonde and white in itself is like an achievement for them.

I don't think too many men really sit there watching fat acceptance vids and say "Hey, I've been far too judgmental. I should date that fugly fat chick who can barely walk a block before needing to sit down".

Yeah, I don't think the fat acceptance movement has manipulated very many men into dating fat women. Most men are good with not insulting fat women. IMO it's totally reasonable to expect people not to go around saying rude things to fat people. It's when they demand that men be attracted to women who are not attractive that I draw the line. I also draw the line if someone claims that there are no health problems caused by obesity. That's just not true.