Thread: FA vs. MGTOW, or, what happens when you try and be helpful (rant)

Before going my own way, I associated myself with FA people (similar to incels but depressed and coping rather than bitter and angry, though there is some bleedover between the two communities).

I was on the /r/ForeverAlone Discord last night, which I had never used before even though I had joined months ago, and was discussing MGTOW and how it helped me get out of the FA mentality, making me a happier person. They accused me of "hating women" and during the discussion I was having, I got banned from the Discord.

I sent a message over Reddit to the mods stating I was only trying to be helpful and asking why I was banned. They responded with a message that MGTOW was "just as bad as incels" and then subsequently banned me from the Reddit group and blocked me from contacting mods for 28 days, even though I had not posted in the Reddit group in over 10 years.

I was shocked that this happened, especially in a mental health themed subreddit. They didn't even try and tell me why I was wrong, they just blocked all contact with me for no reason. And most of those people in that group are shy and quiet "nice guys" who don't seem like they would do something like this. It's no wonder these people are forever alone if they treat people this way for trying to be helpful.

Before I discovered MGTOW, I was very unhappy, constantly swiping on every single mother in the area and upset when the few who swiped back turned me down for all kinds of reasons including my height and my low wage job. MGTOW helped me realize that I should focus on improving myself, and MGTOW YouTube channels showed me the type of women I was actually dealing with, whom I of course want nothing to do with. This is the endless cycle of depression that FAs and incels face, and I'm happy to be free of it. I just hope more FAs and incels can discover MGTOW too.

Reddit has been cucked for few years, it's mostly filled with bluepill far-left sheep. You can't broach something so serious as saying that women aren't special, god forbid.
Keep some subs for related hobbies, but you won't find free speech on it, and won't be helping anyone off the plantation unless you're tryharding and coaxing them to the breadcrumbs of truth that won't crush their fragile worldview.

MGTOW was the perfect remedy to show that there is another way. Taking control back in your own life and away from the attention-seeking modern whore.

I’m proud to be independent and accomplished. I don’t look at myself as any less than because I didn’t turn out like Mr. Nanny with a wife, kids, and all the other domestic bullshit. One of the greatest feelings in the world is to be beyond the point of caring and obsessing about love and validation from the modern whore. It’s empowering and a great reminder that it’s up to me to support me and have my own back. My life will only ever be what I make of it. The modern whore holds no power in my world.

Let the simps cry little tears into their beers. I don’t have time for those games anymore.

Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk

Reddit has been cucked for few years, it's mostly filled with bluepill far-left sheep. You can't broach something so serious as saying that women aren't special, god forbid.
Keep some subs for related hobbies, but you won't find free speech on it, and won't be helping anyone off the plantation unless you're tryharding and coaxing them to the breadcrumbs of truth that won't crush their fragile worldview.

To be honest, since around the time of the pandemic I've seen a lot of normie posts in /r/ForeverAlone. For example, women who call themselves FA or femcel because they can't find the right guy and everyone only wants to hook up with them. It never used to be that way. It was traditionally for men who deal with shyness, social anxiety, autism, and the like.

Originally Posted by NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Before I discovered MGTOW, I was very unhappy, constantly swiping on every single mother in the area and upset when the few who swiped back turned me down for all kinds of reasons including my height and my low wage job.

I know you were trying to help but that is not your job and not the way it is accomplished. You, as a man, cannot force another man to spit out his BP ideals and swallow RP truths. He will strongly reject you every time. A woman knows best at getting a man to abandon the "Disney Dream" of a loving family and accepting RP truths. Once she has shown her true nature, is when a man may question what he has been taught and seek knowledge of her true nature.

IMO, it's best to keep your status as MGTOW to yourself outside of this forum. If a man is seeking RP content, there is heaps out there, once he has learned enough, he can choose for himself if he wants to go MGTOW. The more you wave a MGTOW flag the bigger the target you become.

Originally Posted by NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Before going my own way, I associated myself with FA people (similar to incels but depressed and coping rather than bitter and angry, though there is some bleedover between the two communities).

I was on the /r/ForeverAlone Discord last night, which I had never used before even though I had joined months ago, and was discussing MGTOW and how it helped me get out of the FA mentality, making me a happier person. They accused me of "hating women" and during the discussion I was having, I got banned from the Discord.

I sent a message over Reddit to the mods stating I was only trying to be helpful and asking why I was banned. They responded with a message that MGTOW was "just as bad as incels" and then subsequently banned me from the Reddit group and blocked me from contacting mods for 28 days, even though I had not posted in the Reddit group in over 10 years.

I was shocked that this happened, especially in a mental health themed subreddit. They didn't even try and tell me why I was wrong, they just blocked all contact with me for no reason. And most of those people in that group are shy and quiet "nice guys" who don't seem like they would do something like this. It's no wonder these people are forever alone if they treat people this way for trying to be helpful.

Before I discovered MGTOW, I was very unhappy, constantly swiping on every single mother in the area and upset when the few who swiped back turned me down for all kinds of reasons including my height and my low wage job. MGTOW helped me realize that I should focus on improving myself, and MGTOW YouTube channels showed me the type of women I was actually dealing with, whom I of course want nothing to do with. This is the endless cycle of depression that FAs and incels face, and I'm happy to be free of it. I just hope more FAs and incels can discover MGTOW too.

Sadly the vast majority of men are women worshippers Especially FA and incels. Their whole world view is basically this "life isn't complete/worth living unless a woman accept me as a lover". The idea that you can be happy without a women is blasphemy and will act accordingly (in your case, instantly banning you)

99% of those guys in the FA/incel space can never become mgtow. The only difference between them ,blue pillers and puas is that they have fallen into despair rather then driven to due whatever it takes to get a woman.

This also why mgtows are universally hated by everyone, no one likes when man lives happily without women

Reddit is a liberal hell hole. I have been banned from so many subs for the stupidest reasons. If you don't bow down to the all mighty vagina then you WILL be shunned and banned. There is so many threads titled I HATE MEN and of course you have cucks and simps agreeing with her to the point they defend her against opposing views. If you say I HATE WOMEN then you are screwed. EVERYONE hates you and whatever happened is your fault.

I actually feel bad for those FA people. They never even had a chance. I see some people post that are in their 30s and never even had a first kiss. That's sad. I had my first kiss at 6. Life sure is strange. My only regret is getting married. If I had the choice of taking my chances of survival by laying down on the highway or getting married then I am taking my chances with the highway. I'll even do it after I wash down a bottle of sleeping pills with vodka . Fuck marriage.

Reddit is a cesspool. The censorship began a long time ago, according to others on other forums, and what is allowed is mostly crap.

Originally Posted by NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Before going my own way, I associated myself with FA people (similar to incels but depressed and coping rather than bitter and angry, though there is some bleedover between the two communities).

I was on the /r/ForeverAlone Discord last night, which I had never used before even though I had joined months ago, and was discussing MGTOW and how it helped me get out of the FA mentality, making me a happier person. They accused me of "hating women" and during the discussion I was having, I got banned from the Discord.

I sent a message over Reddit to the mods stating I was only trying to be helpful and asking why I was banned. They responded with a message that MGTOW was "just as bad as incels" and then subsequently banned me from the Reddit group and blocked me from contacting mods for 28 days, even though I had not posted in the Reddit group in over 10 years.

I was shocked that this happened, especially in a mental health themed subreddit. They didn't even try and tell me why I was wrong, they just blocked all contact with me for no reason. And most of those people in that group are shy and quiet "nice guys" who don't seem like they would do something like this. It's no wonder these people are forever alone if they treat people this way for trying to be helpful.

Before I discovered MGTOW, I was very unhappy, constantly swiping on every single mother in the area and upset when the few who swiped back turned me down for all kinds of reasons including my height and my low wage job. MGTOW helped me realize that I should focus on improving myself, and MGTOW YouTube channels showed me the type of women I was actually dealing with, whom I of course want nothing to do with. This is the endless cycle of depression that FAs and incels face, and I'm happy to be free of it. I just hope more FAs and incels can discover MGTOW too.

The United States, is infected by label-based thinking. They want to think they're intelligent, but they don't want to have to do any work to be that way. So they just slap labels on things, and let other people think for them as to what those labels mean. It's not just in the United States either. This shit's going on in Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and other countries. These are people who hate free speech and freedom. They supposedly care about racism and other forms of bigotry, but go about trying to stop these things in the worst and stupidest way possible. Bigotry is labeling people based on their skin color, their ethnicity, their religion etc. with stereotypes. So they're supposedly against this kind of labeling, but they're trying to combat it with labeling. You mention MGTOW, and they're like Pavlovian dogs that salivate and say, "bad, misogyny." They don't even think. They've got their label. They could have taken the time to thoughtfully evaluate what you were posting about, but it's easier to just slap a label on everything. That's exactly how the black-bashing white supremacists do things. They have numerous bullshit labels that they slap on black people such as loving fried chicken, being welfare bums, or being criminals. The Woke Mind Police claim to be against labeling people unfairly like that. So what do they do to end this terrible labeling? They label people.

WMP (Woke Mind Police, aka Wetting My Pants):
We're totally against labeling people, and we're going to go out and label a bunch people so that we can stop this evil.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

The United States, is infected by label-based thinking. They want to think they're intelligent, but they don't want to have to do any work to be that way. So they just slap labels on things, and let other people think for them as to what those labels mean. It's not just in the United States either. This shit's going on in Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and other countries. These are people who hate free speech and freedom. They supposedly care about racism and other forms of bigotry, but go about trying to stop these things in the worst and stupidest way possible. Bigotry is labeling people based on their skin color, their ethnicity, their religion etc. with stereotypes. So they're supposedly against this kind of labeling, but they're trying to combat it with labeling. You mention MGTOW, and they're like Pavlovian dogs that salivate and say, "bad, misogyny." They don't even think. They've got their label. They could have taken the time to thoughtfully evaluate what you were posting about, but it's easier to just slap a label on everything. That's exactly how the black-bashing white supremacists do things. They have numerous bullshit labels that they slap on black people such as loving fried chicken, being welfare bums, or being criminals. The Woke Mind Police claim to be against labeling people unfairly like that. So what do they do to end this terrible labeling? They label people.

WMP (Woke Mind Police, aka Wetting My Pants):
We're totally against labeling people, and we're going to go out and label a bunch people so that we can stop this evil.

Their lily white arrogance wouldn't last a millisecond in the hood (having worked for years in the inner city myself). They'd get bitch slapped or even worse just for being so out of tune with reality and circumstance, they're totally blind to human character and wouldn't know a good one from a bad one, all they see is gender and ethnicity with the utter inability to "feel people out".

I only have two labels I project on people and that's asshole? or not?

It is said; let your words be yea or nay.

Originally Posted by FangBlade

Sadly the vast majority of men are women worshippers Especially FA and incels.

The vast majority of people worship sex and money. They don't know it but they do, because western civilisation killed God and people aren't even aware that they have replacements to worship now. You can kill God but you can't kill the human need to worship something; to find meaning in something and place it as the highest value in order to orientate your life.

What if you have trouble getting sex for whatever reason? Well then you turn to worshipping women in the hope that you will find paradise on earth through the opening of a fish taco stall.

MGTOW is heresy to these folk. In the middle ages, heretics were burned at the stake. Now they are banned on reddit and vilified on MSM.

You can lead a simp to water, but you can't make him think.

Too bad they censored you. You could've helped some people.