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    The west is dead. Does anyone have thoughts on where someone might go to expatriate? I've heard good things about Poland. Is it time to just switch to being a Muslim? Amr @ mgtow.cafe seems to think Islam is being cucked as well.

    Thoughts or opinions?

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    Re: Expat Ideas

    I have been thinking a lot about this since my divorce, great way to cut expenses. In some locations, If I get a house, I can get a live in maid for cooking and cleaning for $200/mo. Or go ultra cheap, and get an apartment for a few hundred a month in some locations. best I found was a city in the Visaynas Philippines, not too crowded, plenty to do, apartments owned by an American for $400/mo


    My lineup doesn't include Poland, so I would love to hear what idea you have for that location. Panama, Vietnam, Philippines and Ecuador(if they can get their politics stable) are on my list to check out. I went to Thailand, fun for night activities, but I couldn't see myself living there

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    The West is truly "dead", morally, financially, and politically.

    We have arrived at the only logical solution and that's why we've congregated here. Everything feminists and their ilk do is bathed and drenched in evil, and they boast their nature is not war but peace, but we know that peace they speak of comes with an iron fist, free of empathy, compassion, mercy, and self control. Mothers having their offspring butchered says allot about the depraved state of reality we live in, the reality and world created by the liberation of women at the cost of enslaving men and misery no other generations have had the pleasure of suffering.

    They mutilated, shamed, and murdered motherhood, demanded everything, conceded nothing, and as time passed, they grew more and more radical in their objectives born and conceived in hatred, jealousy, envy, and every other spiritual human weakness and frailty. Fuckem, let their spines snap under the load, walk away, and leave them crippled, choices and actions have consequences, it's time the floodgates of consequences be blown off their tracks and washed downstream! We are the grim reapers personified in the furnaces of feminism where our flesh no longer burns and the suffering has ended, we're putting the West out of it's MISERY! Why flee only to have this same army of darkness follow you wherever you go?

    They have no history to speak of and no track record to present for chivalry, clarity, or direction, they are not equipped as we are and never will be, nor are we equipped as they are and never will be. I'm watching the show and refuse to participate in my own destruction, and to those ends I live!

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    Re: Expat Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    The west is dead. Does anyone have thoughts on where someone might go to expatriate? I've heard good things about Poland. Is it time to just switch to being a Muslim? Amr @ mgtow.cafe seems to think Islam is being cucked as well.

    Thoughts or opinions?

    Seems like one of our MODS is heading out to Nam:

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    As he plans to document his journey maybe this will be of help, if you're not in a hurry.
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    My info is older than dirt, but some of it might still be good. The Army gives draftees a dream sheet asking where we'd like to be stationed, but it's just a sick joke. Nobody without a deal, which was serving another year, ever got their wish. I asked for Germany and got Panama.

    I didn't like it, but it was mostly a Army thing. I will admit to not being much of a beach bum either. Now I'm old I'd probably like it better. It is a tropical paradise. As such, running around in the middle of the day is not a good idea. You'll like it lots better if you don't have to. Too bad that's all the Army did, at least back then. Talk about sweat.

    My guess is, in hard times Panama will be better than a lot a places cause I don't see the US, or most of the world letting the Panama canal go to hell. They wont likely stand for much terrorism either. The ditch is big money for Panama too, so the government should be able to take care of themselves better than a poorer country. Just a guess, but I think that's the way the wind blows. A lot of English gets spoken too, though like everywhere else, not everyone wants to talk. You could survive without Spanish back then, and probably still can. Another quirk is the locals might move slow, but they talk fast. So fast I could never tell where one word stopped and the next started. But I never did have an ear for Spanish.

    I have heard on a biker site that tourists don't want to be out after dark, at least not in some of the more remote towns. They didn't mention the Pacific side, which because of Panama City is where most people live. I'm sure there's some expats, though how many there are and how much they like the place I can't say. But it's probably worth considering. Sam says Columbia's better, but in hard times that may or may not be true. As great a place as Columbia is, I wouldn't bet much on their stability in hard times. But what do I know?
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    I agree with his mindset of cleaning up any circumstances before you move on, it's why I pay my out-of-state or out-of-country traffic tickets and fines, that shit has a way of catching up with you, especially now that states have agreements to suspend licenses for violations in other states. I have a speeding ticket from Colorado that was a dozie, had I not paid it and waited for the law to catch up to me, the fines and penalties would be far more than the ticket, and my license possibly suspended until I face a judge from that state and rectify the situation, and would likely have an additional warrant for my arrest already outstanding! Don't create your own entanglements, pay for your mistakes and save the receipt!

    When I used to tow cars, a shitload of the tows were arrests for outstanding warrants, and many were to the driver's surprise! I was also arrested once on a tow when the cop checked for warrants on me, the fucking driver! Away I went, to jail, all weekend for a default warrant on some bullshit I neglected to address accordingly! (missed court date, no bail, long holiday weekend, in 4" X 8" cell with steel bed severely bent in the middle from gorillas jumping up and down on it! I was lucky, I knew a cop that smuggled me sandwiches instead of coffee and donuts for the entire weekend! I ate quietly in my corner so others couldn't hear me eating!

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    The problem I have with Asia, and I think this is universal, is that they won't allow foreigners to own property. I know this is true for the Philippians. I don't even think anyone owns property in Vietnam or China anyway. Yes, you can go down the "property tax" road... I know it well. That however is a perversion that rests on the body of a previously good thing. In all the Asian countries I know about, private property has never even really been a concept.

    That is why I wonder about westernish places like Poland. They know freedom and have recent memory about the evils of communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    The problem I have with Asia, and I think this is universal, is that they won't allow foreigners to own property. I know this is true for the Philippians. I don't even think anyone owns property in Vietnam or China anyway. Yes, you can go down the "property tax" road... I know it well. That however is a perversion that rests on the body of a previously good thing. In all the Asian countries I know about, private property has never even really been a concept.

    That is why I wonder about westernish places like Poland. They know freedom and have recent memory about the evils of communism.
    With regards the Polish, I have no knowledge about what it is like to live there but many came to Ireland during our boom years before the 2008 recession looking for work.

    Once the recession took hold most of them returned, or moved on to greener pastures. There was a lot of talk in the press about Polish businesses hanging signs of “No Irish Need Apply” when looking for staff, but personally I put that down to sensationalism of the media to stir shit against them.

    I knew quite a few of them, and a few Chechs, and found them to be very personable and hard working, but you also have to understand that these were motivated people, possibly not the norm.

    A few confided in me that they were wary of returning home as people that leave to earn a crust are considered almost as traitors by their own population instead of industrious go-getters.

    As for the women, I found them to be just as hypergamous and manipulative as any in the West, maybe even more so, but this could also be down to the fact that they were driven enough to leave their homeland to make money, they may not be representative of the general population.

    Sorry I have no answers for you, but if you are considering Poland or any of the ex-Soviet states I would urge you to be very careful and do as much recon as possible before making a final decision. Whilst many will have anti-communist feelings, many others probably miss it.
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    Here are some resources

    https://nomadlist.com/
    https://numbeo.com/cost-of-living/
    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html
    OECD Better Life Index

    The real question behind where to migrate to is the reasons behind your why to migrate. If you are looking to retire cheaply the numbers can often work on that. If one is trying to start a new life with no previous connections or industry demand now you are looking at a different beast entirely. For a younger man with no revolving responsibilities however I always encourage you should try it for the fact that the experience will challenge your beliefs and force you to observe how other people live.
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    Eastern Europe/Asia I think makes the most sense but it depends on what weather and climate you are comfortable with and what expenses you anticipate. I have looked at expense calculators that give an average of locations around the world. However, these expense calculations make many assumptions regarding spending and other expenses regarding housing as an example. Thus, it is best that you travel to potential landing spots and stay a bit longer than a month to truly gauge the true costs of relocating to a new location.

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    Travel is something I live for but I have had one eye on the future in escaping the rat race around 15 years from now for some time.

    My prediction is that most countries in the world (2/3) will be worst in the future that they are now, the west will decline as we know but things like overpopulation and resource exploitation will only cause big problems down the line elsewhere.

    Some countries will be much better and there will be a few unexpected surprises, the impressive turnaround by Rwanda at the moment is one such example. On this basis I wouldn't want to make any decision on actual countries until closer to the time.

    I want to do something productive with my retirement not just merely exist in a 3rd world country on the cheap. Maybe run my own small business but at the same time have a bailout plan in case anything goes wrong.

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    Re: Expat Ideas

    Is it time to just switch to being a Muslim? Amr @ mgtow.cafe seems to think Islam is being cucked as well.
    Forget about islam - it won't do you much good at this stage.

    I am from Saudi - the most patriarchal and fundamentalist islamic country you can find. Men here are respected and their word is final inside and outside of the home.

    But slowly yet surely, I am seeing changes. One of the workplaces I was at, the managing director was a white knight who educated abroad and he brought back 'western work culture'. He began encouraging women to dress provocatively (which is a real fucking distraction inside the work place) denigrated men and began to hire more 'administrators' and personal assistants who were essentially hot girls with no brains.

    In such an environment - no work gets done.

    And Middle Eastern women now thanks to a globalised world only look for the creme de la creme. A below average guy like me has no chance.

    I was dating an 11/10 chick a while back - a stunner! . She was much older but serious about marriage. Her mother told me straight up that if it weren't for her age - she would not have taken an interest in me. Apparently I was too short for their liking.

    Most Saudi men are now fully certified pussies because of the terrible diets, absent fathers and feminist brainwashed mothers.

    And I don't actually mind more liberalisation - but I would like to enjoy the fruits of a freer, sexually liberated society like having orgies, gang bangs and lots of exciting casual sex.

    But a Saudi or any other middle eastern woman would consider me 'unworthy' and would rather open her legs to a tall white western man.

    So yea - the only way out as I see it is to stay in where you are in the west and navigate the gynocracy as well as possible. If shit hits the fan, pretend to be gay or transgender - you don't much choice otherwise.
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    Re: Expat Ideas

    From what is coming down the Pike I see NO where to run to. What is "here" will be all over before long. I ,...Just me,..think our Expat place maybe truly is in our own mind and small circle around us...wherever that is.. We can run,.......but why?


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