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    Re: New years eve

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    Word from the wise, make sure your keys are not in the ignition during alcohol consumption, driving or not, that alone is enough to be charged and arrested for DUI. Doesn't even matter if you're in the drivers seat or if you lock and chain your vehicle to a tree, it's still DUI in the eyes of the law.
    for that matter anywhere within reach (e.g. in your pocket) they can charge you. Some states are getting pretty shitty....


    I no longer have more than a few beers when I go out, way too much too lose..

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    I live in a small town and have gone away (Spain) the last 3 years but this time I'm staying local. Going to any big city / club is out of question from here due to taxi costs.

    Good news: Christmas and new year is always a lot better than usual to be out drinking and it's great to catch up with old friends I don't usually see.

    Bad news: It brings out a lot of idiots (read fights), couples arguing and once a year drinkers demanding to be served before the regulars.

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    for that matter anywhere within reach (e.g. in your pocket) they can charge you. Some states are getting pretty shitty....
    I was gonna say hide the keys, that way there's no evidence to be used against you, they're not gonna call a locksmith to fabricate any too! They may search your vehicle, so hide any contraband far from that location! It's a game to them, attach crimes to the people and visa versa! Keep the two separate and it's smooth sailing!

    I hate to sound so cynical but these are some truths I found on my journey through life. Official interaction is not advised, stealth in every size, shape, and color, like a chameleon, hide in plane sight! Blend in with the surroundings! I can't stress wise covert countermeasures enough! It's your life they will ruin! Leave any strings untied and it's your ass they trip, grind up, and devour! An eternity of man hours are spent in prison by the innocent, don't be a victim of justice, view yourself from their prism, it's their job to detect and pull strings until your ball of yarn becomes untraveled by accusations and circumstance. That's why under any circumstance you should not be interacting with police, you can easy implicate yourself in a crime you did not commit. I refuse interrogatory accusations by running stealth and avoiding interactions all together. I treat each and every person with the same respect I do a hand grenade! It served me well!

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    Whats your plan fellas?

    Personally Ill probably spend it saving money and playing videogames, dont really like mandatory parties.

    Years ago I purchased a VR set and have not had any time to use it at all. The other day, I hooked it up, updated all of the firmware and games ready for later. Looks like I will have a little time to play now....
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    Re: New years eve

    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    for that matter anywhere within reach (e.g. in your pocket) they can charge you. Some states are getting pretty shitty....


    I no longer have more than a few beers when I go out, way too much too lose..
    When I was a kid, my small village had a dozen bars that were all hopping on Saturday night. Fifty years later, there's still bars and clubs, but they are a fraction of what they used to be. Specially the rural road houses, all of them are gone. People didn't quit drinking, they just quit going to bars.
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    I'm more worried about the people the cops will be looking for. In my area, the people can't drive when they're sober. Nevermind being on the roads with them when they're shitfaced. I'll be shitfaced, too...at home...passing out on my comfortable bed. Then, I'll oversleep and miss my hangover like I always do. It's just another New Year's to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Dear season doesn't have to end, just give yourself a private extension! Deer wandering into this verboden place could die from lead poisoning along with the goats. I bet that would make one hell of a sausage! Vennigoat sausage with habanero'n'cheese!
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    Re: New years eve

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    People didn't quit drinking, they just quit going to bars.
    Tell me about it, pubs here in the UK are constantly closing down but people seem to be drinking more than ever. For people with not much money a 4 pack from the shop is the same as one drink in a pub so who can blame them. Our pub culture is slowing dying...…..

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    Re: New years eve

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    Tell me about it, pubs here in the UK are constantly closing down but people seem to be drinking more than ever. For people with not much money a 4 pack from the shop is the same as one drink in a pub so who can blame them. Our pub culture is slowing dying...…..
    Indeed. I’ve noticed the same here in Ireland if you can believe it. A nation where the consuming of alcohol is often considered a way of life rather than an act of delinquency. But the do-gooders have and are still ruining the idea of a bit of release from the stresses and strains of modern living is a good thing. How dare you have any fun at all?

    Alcohol taxes constantly rising and smoking bans in public places have decimated the pub industry here and I for one think this will have a more debilitating effect on society than benefit. But the whimenz and their mangina cohorts don’t want to see men getting together for ANY reason, hell they might actually work out what the hell is going on!

    Now smoking is obviously not good for you, neither is drinking to excess, but for those of us that do still smoke it’s almost impossible to enjoy a night out any more, especially at this time of the year when in order to have a ciggie you not only have to extract yourself from the company you’re in thereby losing track of conversation, but have to go outside and freeze your balls off often in pouring rain. Where’s the fun in that?

    Naw, I’ll be at home with a fleet of drink to have a few with whoever drops by and the begrudgers can go fuck themselves.
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    Re: New years eve

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Indeed. I’ve noticed the same here in Ireland if you can believe it. A nation where the consuming of alcohol is often considered a way of life rather than an act of delinquency. But the do-gooders have and are still ruining the idea of a bit of release from the stresses and strains of modern living is a good thing. How dare you have any fun at all?

    Alcohol taxes constantly rising and smoking bans in public places have decimated the pub industry here and I for one think this will have a more debilitating effect on society than benefit. But the whimenz and their mangina cohorts don’t want to see men getting together for ANY reason, hell they might actually work out what the hell is going on!

    Now smoking is obviously not good for you, neither is drinking to excess, but for those of us that do still smoke it’s almost impossible to enjoy a night out any more, especially at this time of the year when in order to have a ciggie you not only have to extract yourself from the company you’re in thereby losing track of conversation, but have to go outside and freeze your balls off often in pouring rain. Where’s the fun in that?

    Naw, I’ll be at hope with a fleet of drink to have a few with whoever drops by and the begrudgers can go fuck themselves.
    Here in the US, taxes inspire allot of home grown and home brewed! If I still drank, I'd have a still and mini brewery, drink for free by having friends offset the cost and enjoy some savings over government sanctioned. I avoid fuel costs by burning wood, plastic, and used motor oil! My ass is so stingy squeaky tight you couldn't hammer a pin in it with a sledgehammer!

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    In the US, Prohibition was the culmination a multi generational effort that began with a misandric cult led by Carry Nation.

    In the 1880s an anti-male moral panic disguised as an anti alcohol movement sold Americans on the notion that men drank whisky in all-male saloons, got drunk, then went home and beat their wives and children while letting them starve because he spent all his money on booze.

    The phrase "Lips that touch wine will not touch mine," originated in with movement. Some of their extreme members would take axes to barrels of booze.

    Fast forward to two events in the 1910s/20. Women got the franchise (right to vote,) and senators were popularly elected instead of being appointed by governors or state assemblies, or nominated by state assemblies and selected by governors.

    Giving women the vote meant that politics in the US would change forever. A large block of the electorate would not be taxpayers.

    Popular election of Senators undermined the Constitutional principle that the House of Representatives represented the people, while the Senate would protect the sovereignty of the States against encroachments by an ever expanding federal government.

    Shortly after women's suffrage, the Constitution was amended to make senators popularly elected and to outlaw alcohol.

    Prohibition was inflicted on us by women, as a way to control men and their behavior. It was a disaster, and one of its lasting legacies is the start of large organized crime. The Mafia, as well as the political dynasty of the Kennedy family, are the result of Prohibition. (Joe Kennedy started out as a bootlegger, moved up to money launderer, then polished up his image and became a big time Democratic party contributor, ambassador, and presidential wannabe...at least until his admiration for Hitler made him radioactive.)

    Prohibition was the first of our "moral panic wars:" the war on alcohol, the war on drugs, the war on porn, the war on guns, the war on any music that makes middle age people nervous.

    None have really ended, and it appears that booze, drugs, porn, and guns are winning.

    Fast forward to the 1980s. Government is very sensitive to concerns of middle class women in the suburbs. They are invited to testify to Congress on the records their kids buy that makes them nervous. Remember Tipper Gore and her Parents Music Resource Center's efforts to censor rap music and heavy metal?

    This was the decade that Mothers Against Drug Driving created a moral panic. Of course, government, seizing upon the opportunity to generate more revenue, responded by criminalizing drunk driving, but in a way that didn't send people to jail, but by rinsing them financially. After all, this is a crime of working men. They work, they have the discretionary income to buy cars and drinks in a bar, buying heavily state regulated/taxed booze. If you send working men to prison, they can't work to fund the money-making scheme that is our anti-drunk driving punishment schemes. The local and state governments don't really care if you drink and drive, they just want the excuse to get your discretionary income.

    If you don't believe me, look at the disparities in government response between how it treats a native born drunk driver and an illegal alien. The native born citizen was a law abiding citizen until he had two beers, too close together, and then got in his car and drove into a police trap...er, check point. He obeyed all the laws about driver training and licensing, car registration and taxation, etc.

    The illegal alien drives without a license, doesn't register his car, doesn't pay income taxes because he is paid in cash, sends most of his money back home to a different country to build homes/streets/schools over there, and usually hits and runs, or just runs away when he can't make a getaway in the car. The state rarely pursues him and when it does and catches him, does not subject him to the same process that costs the citizen months/years of hassle and thousands of dollars.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Good one Sam.

    This has been an interesting thread, I didn't realize the bar culture was on the skids everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    In the US, Prohibition was the culmination a multi generational effort that began with a misandric cult led by Carry Nation.

    In the 1880s an anti-male moral panic disguised as an anti alcohol movement sold Americans on the notion that men drank whisky in all-male saloons, got drunk, then went home and beat their wives and children while letting them starve because he spent all his money on booze.

    The phrase "Lips that touch wine will not touch mine," originated in with movement. Some of their extreme members would take axes to barrels of booze.

    Fast forward to two events in the 1910s/20. Women got the franchise (right to vote,) and senators were popularly elected instead of being appointed by governors or state assemblies, or nominated by state assemblies and selected by governors.

    Giving women the vote meant that politics in the US would change forever. A large block of the electorate would not be taxpayers.

    Popular election of Senators undermined the Constitutional principle that the House of Representatives represented the people, while the Senate would protect the sovereignty of the States against encroachments by an ever expanding federal government.

    Shortly after women's suffrage, the Constitution was amended to make senators popularly elected and to outlaw alcohol.

    Prohibition was inflicted on us by women, as a way to control men and their behavior. It was a disaster, and one of its lasting legacies is the start of large organized crime. The Mafia, as well as the political dynasty of the Kennedy family, are the result of Prohibition. (Joe Kennedy started out as a bootlegger, moved up to money launderer, then polished up his image and became a big time Democratic party contributor, ambassador, and presidential wannabe...at least until his admiration for Hitler made him radioactive.)

    Prohibition was the first of our "moral panic wars:" the war on alcohol, the war on drugs, the war on porn, the war on guns, the war on any music that makes middle age people nervous.

    None have really ended, and it appears that booze, drugs, porn, and guns are winning.

    Fast forward to the 1980s. Government is very sensitive to concerns of middle class women in the suburbs. They are invited to testify to Congress on the records their kids buy that makes them nervous. Remember Tipper Gore and her Parents Music Resource Center's efforts to censor rap music and heavy metal?

    This was the decade that Mothers Against Drug Driving created a moral panic. Of course, government, seizing upon the opportunity to generate more revenue, responded by criminalizing drunk driving, but in a way that didn't send people to jail, but by rinsing them financially. After all, this is a crime of working men. They work, they have the discretionary income to buy cars and drinks in a bar, buying heavily state regulated/taxed booze. If you send working men to prison, they can't work to fund the money-making scheme that is our anti-drunk driving punishment schemes. The local and state governments don't really care if you drink and drive, they just want the excuse to get your discretionary income.

    If you don't believe me, look at the disparities in government response between how it treats a native born drunk driver and an illegal alien. The native born citizen was a law abiding citizen until he had two beers, too close together, and then got in his car and drove into a police trap...er, check point. He obeyed all the laws about driver training and licensing, car registration and taxation, etc.

    The illegal alien drives without a license, doesn't register his car, doesn't pay income taxes because he is paid in cash, sends most of his money back home to a different country to build homes/streets/schools over there, and usually hits and runs, or just runs away when he can't make a getaway in the car. The state rarely pursues him and when it does and catches him, does not subject him to the same process that costs the citizen months/years of hassle and thousands of dollars.
    My grandfather was forced out of his speak-easy (illegal drinking establishment) at the point of a gun held by Lucky Luciano for the benefit of the Kennedy cabal. They gave him a numbers racket he couldn't refuse, made him an unwilling manager for the father of organized crime, his choice was obedience or death. He was 18. Here we are, all these decades later and it seems karma has ravaged the Kennedy family. Money can't buy good karma. This story is why to this day I refuse to manipulate and pressure people, or take advantage of politics for self serving purposes.

    In my world of truly enlightened, criminals and politicians are one in the same, but only criminals held accountable. This republic is lost to corruption, greed, and ill will. Nothing can restore it because nothing can change history or the point of perdition we arrive at each and every day. We are all slaves to the criminally insane masquerading as officials and politicians. Anything else is a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    for that matter anywhere within reach (e.g. in your pocket) they can charge you. Some states are getting pretty shitty....


    I no longer have more than a few beers when I go out, way too much too lose..
    It is all about the money. Cops love the overtime, and the taxpayers will be poorer for it, not just when the overtime is performed, but when that time-and-half is calculated into their pension. Years from now, when they retire at a very early age, the taxpayer will be buying them lunch every month, for decades, with the overtime they worked this week.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    It is all about the money. Cops love the overtime, and the taxpayers will be poorer for it, not just when the overtime is performed, but when that time-and-half is calculated into their pension. Years from now, when they retire at a very early age, the taxpayer will be buying them lunch every month, for decades, with the overtime they worked this week.
    Or costs and gross inefficiency deliver us to a Soviet Union like collapse. Where will they be when their pensions evaporate with the dollar? When there's no more union? When it dies from too much poison? Right back where they stared, except old, and unable to produce anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Or costs and gross inefficiency deliver us to a Soviet Union like collapse. Where will they be when their pensions evaporate with the dollar? When there's no more union? When it dies from too much poison? Right back where they stared, except old, and unable to produce anything.
    With some of them retiring in their early 40's and working a new job, they will do all right, they will be back down with the rest of us.

    Some retire even sooner. They turn a some minor injury into a "disability" and ride a disability pension or the rest of their lives.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    With some of them retiring in their early 40's and working a new job, they will do all right, they will be back down with the rest of us.

    Some retire even sooner. They turn a some minor injury into a "disability" and ride a disability pension or the rest of their lives.
    The have-not's always outnumber the haves' wherever socialism becomes prolific, receiving free stuff from the government only makes one more dependent, and as the whole of society becomes more dependent, rationing starts taking place to hold off catastrophic failure of the whole. Socialism is social cancer, eventually it consumes all.

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    Last edited by sam luis obispo; December 22, 2019 at 6:17 PM.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Speaking of the Millenial/NPC obsession with fancy dress events, why do you think they covet them so?
    Just saw the Milleniyule stream (highly recommended) with Edward Dutton. Dutton asserts that the left's conformity (quite ironic in itself, policed by a supposed "counterculture") evolved from the middle strata of society assuming more political power, snatching it from the lower and upper classes (who were the most active in UK politics during the 20th century). The middle layers of society are though to be more conformist, according to Dutton.

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    Word from the wise, make sure your keys are not in the ignition during alcohol consumption, driving or not, that alone is enough to be charged and arrested for DUI. Doesn't even matter if you're in the drivers seat or if you lock and chain your vehicle to a tree, it's still DUI in the eyes of the law.



    Yes, the offence here is "Drunk In Charge". So it's worse than you think: if you're in charge of a vehicle they can get you: this means that not having the keys in ignition (I keep mine in a drawer) isn't necessarily enough of a defence; you're still in charge of the vehicle.

    I try to stealth so it's not obvious there's even anyone in the van (it's not an obvious camper van, it could easily pass as a people carrier). If I get a knock I plan to try to ignore; if that fails I'm going to use the defence that I've broken down and was waiting overnight until I could get help. [There is a hidden kill switch in lieu of an immobiliser: it will come in handy for this].

    I'm aware of the risk, I figure you've got to take your chances sometimes. Many tell me "don't worry, the police have better things to do" but I call BS on that. If a bored cop passes by and they decide the paperwork is worth it, could be easily busted.


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