Thread: Enabling Fat People

I agree with Coach Greg Doucette. Sometimes you need to hear the painful truth about your weight and health to help you make healthy changes. Being politically correct is more of a harmful problem than just telling the truth.

I would like to go back to the days of Al Bundy, where he made fun of fat women, but now, the left is making fun of hard-working people who lose weight and look great. It's all backwards now.

I will admit, I'm overweight, but I eat properly (for the most part), but my problem is motivation to workout. I just hit 40 and my last year's weight loss goal failed, but I blame myself and my desire to feel comfortable.

I don't go around insulting fat people, but I won't lie to them either. If the subject of health comes up, I'll be honest that obesity increases the risk of diseases like heart disease and diabetes. That's just a fact, and that's what anyone looking for the truth should find out. But I don't look into people's shopping cards at the grocery store and say shit like, "Why are you buying that ice cream? You're already a gross, fat pig." That shits just rude. I stay out of people's business.

I've noticed in old photographs how the majority of men in them don't have big bellies like nowadays. Their stomachs are flatter in their clothes.

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

I agree with Coach Greg Doucette.

Sorry, but I don’t.

In this video he screams and rants about addiction with a plethora drugs behind him. Yes drugs.

Oh but these drugs are good drugs, they’ll get you motivated and healthy!

BULL
SHIT

So people get a little overweight, so what?

It’s not an issue for me, I’m slim, but I don’t have an issue with those that are, shall we say, a little portly?

Being grossly overweight is a health problem I agree, but being over-concerned about your weight can be indicative of a psychological problem that can be much more serious.

Being underweight can be just as precarious to your life than being overweight, maybe more so.

Being overweight is not a problem, oftentimes it is more healthy because you are relaxed about your appearance. It is portrayed as being a problem because… well it just is!

Obesity on the other hand is a problem.

I realise that you’re trying to start a business and I wish you every success in the world, but go pimp your wares somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Sorry, but I don’t.

In this video he screams and rants about addiction with a plethora drugs behind him. Yes drugs.

Oh but these drugs are good drugs, they’ll get you motivated and healthy!

BULL
SHIT

So people get a little overweight, so what?

It’s not an issue for me, I’m slim, but I don’t have an issue with those that are, shall we say, a little portly?

Being grossly overweight is a health problem I agree, but being over-concerned about your weight can be indicative of a psychological problem that can be much more serious.

Being underweight can be just as precarious to your life than being overweight, maybe more so.

Being overweight is not a problem, oftentimes it is more healthy because you are relaxed about your appearance. It is portrayed as being a problem because… well it just is!

Obesity on the other hand is a problem.

I realise that you’re trying to start a business and I wish you every success in the world, but go pimp your wares somewhere else.

There is such a thing as appetite suppressant drugs, but I don't want to touch those with a ten-foot pole. I'm afraid of them doing more harm than good. You're totally right that being underweight can be just as bad of a problem. Think Karen Carpenter. Some people get an eating disorder where they do dangerous and bizarre things to lose weight, and then just keep losing it even after they're no longer fat. One of my ex classmates died from that shit.

I'm overweight myself, but I'm losing weight with very simple strategies.
1. Eat 6 small meals a day instead of 3 big ones.
2. Eat simple meals, not packaged stuff. That means basic Japanese soups, stir frying stuff with no oil. Avoid fried foods. Get rid of all sugary shit like soda pop and candy bars. I do use ingredients with a lot of fiber, so that means lots of vegetables like green peppers, carrots, etc. Only very small amounts of meat. No steaks or burgers. Just small cubes of meat in soup, and only sometimes.
3. Eat till you feel 80% full, not 100. It takes your body 20 min to tell you you're full. So if you stop at 80, in 20 minutes it feels like 100.
4. Daily movement. Every single day, I at least take a long walk. Three days a week, I do cardio like treadmill running or bicycling. I also stretch out well with Tai Chi or Yoga. An old sports injury won't let me do strength training, so I stick to what I can do.
5. Once a week, I allow a modicum of junk food, for example, one Tootsie Roll, and never more than a small amount.
6. Avoid eating out. If I do eat out, order something healthy, and only eat about half of it. In the US, it's acceptable to bring the rest home in a requested container. So I do that.

I've got 40 pounds off so far doing it this simple way. No drugs are needed. I didn't order off for any expensive exercise program that some guru claims is the only thing that will work. I don't work out 2 ours a day like some Olympic athlete. This stuff is working for me.

A lot of people in the US get fat because in our culture we have a habit of having food portions that are way, way too big. At almost any restaurant, they load you up with way more than you need, and thus way more calories than you should have. Plus, fried foods and sugary foods and drink are super popular. I think other countries have some of the same problems. If you get busy and just eat typical packaged and fast food meals, it's nearly a guarantee that you'll end up overweight.

But it's possible to take control back.

I am not over wight by any means but could shed some pounds like a lot of people. I found this a pretty interesting read. https://www.theepochtimes.com/these-...t_4728198.html

https://dqydj.com/weight-percentile-by-age-calculator/

If you want to see where you stack up.
Or just have a morbid curiosity with statistics like 1 in 5 American women 40-44 are 140lbs. or below.

Originally Posted by Slow Handf

I found this a pretty interesting read. https://www.theepochtimes.com/these-...t_4728198.html

Interesting indeed, and very informative.

I particularly liked this:

Therefore, it is best to make sure we’re getting enough sleep first, so that our body can handle and respond positively to exercise.
…
If you sleep less than six hours and still exercise excessively, it is detrimental to your body. People who don’t sleep well on a regular basis shouldn’t do intense exercises.

Sleep is often overlooked as a factor in the whole “healthy mind, healthy body” scenario. We all have sleepless nights but irregular sleep patterns play a huge part in your body’s ability to cope with the stresses that life puts upon us.

Diet is important yes, but so is sleep.

About 2 in 3 women 20-30 are Obese or Overweight
The average American woman 20 years old and up weighs 170 pounds and stands at 63.7 inches (almost 5 feet, 4 inches) tall.
And the average waist circumference? It’s 38.6 inches.
https://www.healthline.com/health/wo...ight-for-women

That's not Middle Aged or Senior Women, just 20-30.

I believe the US/UK average in the mid 50s (after most women were married with 2-3 kids) was 5'2.5" and 125lb, which would be considered "Healthy/Normal Weight" using BMI (Body Mass Index). They say "People got taller", but British and North American women only gained an inch/inch and a half respectively over the intervening decades. Though sources vary, the typical ~30 year old woman went from a size ~25" waist to a robust ~37" waist depending on the source.

Just to be clear, here is the definition of obesity and overweight by BMI:

• Overweight is a BMI of 25 to 29.9
• Obesity is a BMI of 30 or above

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/ove...esity/symptoms


People will also claim BMI doesn't work for some body types, which is high nonsense. It gives distorted answers only for very muscular men, like heavyweight boxers and professional weightlifters, whose very high muscle mass can distort the figures. Unless a woman is extremely bulked up, which takes "Chemical Enhancement" - and I mean Elite Bodybuilder Females - there are certainly not enough of them to make the least impact on public health statistics, is going to qualify.

US/UK women in their twenties now average about the same waist at ~160CM/5'3" than I do at 176cm/5'9" in my forties after I gained 2-3" of weight when the gyms closed during the COVID crap - I'm around 38" now, down from 40" and trying to get back down to 34-36".

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

I've noticed in old photographs how the majority of men in them don't have big bellies like nowadays. Their stomachs are flatter in their clothes.

Very good point. There were likely some fat people, but photos were expensive and were not depicting the normal so why waste money on them.

Why is there more fat people now than 50+ yrs ago?

How many people had ride on lawn mowers? Cut your lawns with a push lawn mower, if you have a big lawn use one with an engine on it but you still push it....

Going on vacation? Forget the hotel or cruise ship years ago this was for the super-rich. Go camping, leave the boat at home and take the canoe or just row the boat... Take the hiking boots and include a swim in a lake if possible.

Eating out? Eating out years ago for many families was eating outside... Not eating in a restaurant...

Sweets. Sugar has been around for a long time and evolution has made us crave sugar, this all help in our development and will aid in our demise. Natural sugars were hard to find at one time, Honey Maple Sugar, fruit etc. a few and were seasonal and consumed as a desert once a day. Where I food shop the most there are 3 isles out of 8 full of sugar, one chocolate, one cool drinks (pop or sodas), the other candy. All 3 are not together, like you could avoid going down them, all have a necessity across from them. Marketing to be unhealthy, to be dependent on health care and government...

Electronics..... This is the biggest one IMO. People need entertainment, in days gone by people played sport of some sort. Each country had a favourite. This was "Gaming"... TV was not invented, or it was for quiet times and watching the news, not around the clock entertainment. The TV was likely in the "Good Room" meant for entertaining guests. Not in every room of the house... (Side note: What would be the easiest way to brainwash the population?)

Asia manage to stay a healthy body weight obviously doing something we aren’t.

Fair point but but that roided up beefcake is not exactly the picture of health himself.

Society has become too emotional and chooses to pussyfoot around the issue, rather than call it like it is and hold people accountable. There’s always some “body positivity” blimp onstage or in front of the camera hoping others will gush at her grotesque, hideous ass.

Society lets this go on and on. How much longer can we last with this type of approach to life? A fat person is a fat person. They are physically unhealthy and unpleasant to look at. I don’t say that to be mean; it’s simply the truth. I heard some woke dipshit on television refer to fat women as “bodily-enhanced” (lol). Maybe I’ll go give the neighborhood child molester a great big hug and tell him to perk up and feel good about himself. He’s not a pedophile, but a “child-affectionate person.” Right woketards?

Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 73.6%

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm


Good luck shifting the narrative in a Mob-Rule Idiocracy like the one we have where the majority dictates the culture, when the Majority is Fat.

A newspaper calls out obesity and could lose 70% of their audience.

A politician calls out the obesity epidemic and could lose 70% of their voters.

A child wonders about the topic, then sees his fat-fuck parents waddling around.

Forget it Jake, it's Chubby-Town.

Fat acceptance is apparently only for women since every woman now deserves a shredded chad millionaire on steroids.

Originally Posted by Rock

Fat acceptance is apparently only for women since every woman now deserves a shredded chad millionaire on steroids.

Yep, the "Old" male ideal was Robert Redford or Sean Connery. Guys who looked like they got some physical exercise, maybe jogged regularly, and knew when to leave the buffet. Now it's Hugh Jackman, who somehow looked more Jacked, Man at age 40 than age 30. Thanks to SARMS and other chemicals since he completely transformed in just a few months between one movie he made and the Wolverine role reprisal I think.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

Society has become too emotional and chooses to pussyfoot around the issue, rather than call it like it is and hold people accountable.

Yep, one could also say Society has become too feminized.

Now we have thunder thigh women. It's shocking to look at disco, club, streetviews, or beach photos from the 70s and 80s versus today, but particularly for women. Among all ethnicities and ages, too.

I did read seed oil consumption is up 90% starting in the 90s, which might explain much...

Originally Posted by Montauk

I did read seed oil consumption is up 90% starting in the 90s, which might explain much...

Seed oil?

I don’t know about that but something I noticed about 10 years ago was the eating of seeds.

People were sprinkling them on their breakfast bowls.

Here’s a major problem IMO with healthy eating:

People are told that processed foods are bad. No argument here, but they then infer from this that natural foods are good for you – so eat all you like so long as it’s natural, because if it’s natural it’s good for you.

What a croc.

The quality of the food we eat has a part to play yes, but the quantity should never be overlooked just because it’s deemed as healthy.

I honestly don’t see how people can eat so much. The cost of eating so much too. Maybe I’m lucky in some way but my body does not naturally want to be over 175 lbs…I was about 145lbs coming out of high school and had to make an effort to eat more to get over 160lbs. The extra 10-15 came from moderate weight training over the years. 145-160 seems rail thin to most people nowadays but our perception of what a healthy weight looks like are way out of whack. Most men (and certainly women) shouldn’t be near 200lbs….very few actually carry that much muscle with a decent body fat percentage.

About a year ago my then fiancé wanted me on an anti-depressant (depressed a lot because of how I was used) and for once in my life it was like I could gorge myself without being disgusted by food. I thought it would be cool to see just how fat I could get and I did get up to 225lbs….incredible to me considering I had never been over 185. Good grief pulling myself out of a pool felt like I was a whale. Anyway, the relationship ended, I quit the anti-depressant and very quickly got under 200lbs.

Maybe so many people being on psychiatric drugs is one factor contributing to the fatness?

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

I’m lucky in some way but my body does not naturally want to be over 175 lbs…I was about 145lbs coming out of high school and had to make an effort to eat more to get over 160lbs. The extra 10-15 came from moderate weight training over the years. 145-160 seems rail thin to most people

You're lucky. My body doesn't want to be above or below 280 pounds. I eat and drink right for about 90% of the time. I will say my biggest weight loss failures came from lack of activity which is caused by lack of motivation. I want to workout but I can't get in the mood; and I want to bike ride this past summer, but I got sick back in May from 90-degree heat with a full stomach of cold pre-cooked chicken.

Due to the fact that my dad recently died of a heart attack, I really should make more of an effort to lose weight and get my old 21-year old body back, back when I was about 175 pounds. I just hit 40 2 weeks ago and the last thing I want is to end up in a damn grave before my old age.