Thread: Double standards in psychiatric help

A few weeks ago a 18y old kid that just got released from a psychiatric facility died from hunger, living in a public park. Did something bad happen or did he do something wrong? No, just no one gave a shit about him and he had no where left to go.

Now I open up the newspaper and there is some story about a girl that also went through hell but it focuses on how she got help, even a boyfriend shows up out of the blue. And the first thing I'm thinking is "Would anyone have showed up if you were a guy? Would the kid from a few weeks before still be alive if he were a teenage girl?" No girlfriend is going to magically show up to talk you when you are a depressed guy.

This doesn't have anything to do with MGTOW, I just wanted to talk about it, this stuff gets me mad because it hits close to home. I went through the same hell as a kid and no one showed up to help me either. I guess I'm not really over it if this double standard makes me so angry.

The double standard of which you speak is the inevitable byproduct of a gynocentric culture.

A "damsel" is never shamed for being in "distress." Quite the contrary.

But if a man is in distress, he's seen as "unmanly," and is thereby shamed (in effect) just for being human.

Realizing this, most men internalize their pain, causing many of them to turn to alcohol out of desperation. Then they're shamed for being alcoholics. This causes them to turn even more inward, at which point they're shamed for being reclusive. And so on and so forth, ad nauseam.

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Men Face More Sexism And Discrimination Than Women

Ryan Carrillo
The Libertarian Republic
July 2, 2015

An alien monitoring Earth’s communications might be led to believe that the female gender has it pretty rough. Stories of rampant sexual assault on college campuses, pay discrimination, professional discrimination, disproportionate amount of men as business and political leaders, and horribly sexist language being used to describe women like ‘bossy.’ Those assumptions by extraterrestrial viewers however, are just one more nail in the coffin of the narrative that women have it worse than men.

The reason aliens would hear everything I listed is because our society is gynocentric; meaning that men are taught to give women special treatment and women are taught to expect special treatment. Men are taught that fighting, dying and sacrificing themselves is a noble endeavor, but women experiencing any emotional distress is terrible.

Remember Hillary Clinton’s famous line? “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.” Notice in her quote how men losing their lives is just an aside to the real issue, women’s feelings, that’s gynocentrism.

Women get far more sympathy and attention for their problems, and when they complain about some perceived slight, everyone listens. Male issues on the other hand are routinely dismissed because there are ‘more important’ issues to tackle, issues often affecting women only.

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This is why no man should ever have even 1 iota of loyalty or give a damn about any society he lives in that does not give a fuck about him. He should not think how he can be useful to society, but rather how society can be useful to him.

Yeah, been there, done that. People woud rather mock you than help you when you're on the ground (as a man). I say fuck 'em. Count on nobody and soldier on. It's the only thing you can do.

Originally Posted by VTOLfreak

A few weeks ago a 18y old kid that just got released from a psychiatric facility died from hunger, living in a public park. Did something bad happen or did he do something wrong? No, just no one gave a shit about him and he had no where left to go.

Now I open up the newspaper and there is some story about a girl that also went through hell but it focuses on how she got help, even a boyfriend shows up out of the blue. And the first thing I'm thinking is "Would anyone have showed up if you were a guy? Would the kid from a few weeks before still be alive if he were a teenage girl?" No girlfriend is going to magically show up to talk you when you are a depressed guy.

This doesn't have anything to do with MGTOW, I just wanted to talk about it, this stuff gets me mad because it hits close to home. I went through the same hell as a kid and no one showed up to help me either. I guess I'm not really over it if this double standard makes me so angry.

This is 100% why MGTOW is important.

You as a man are an island and you must preserve that island of serenity. Nothing wrong with asking help from others, but that young man from Canada learned the hard way what happens when you seek therapy as it can be turned against you as a weapon.

I believe psychiatry and psychology are last resorts and should be seen as such, because you must expose yourself and hope to trust the person across from you.

When I was down and at the lowest point of my life no one was around to help me when I was in my mid 20's. But that is also when men turn the corner in their lives and realize they are the prize and that their potential is limitless.

Yup! even I in my blue pill days would have much more sympathy for women than I did for men. Its the opposite now. And I always try and help a man when I see one who needs it.

Originally Posted by Nasir Jones

Yup! even I in my blue pill days would have much more sympathy for women than I did for men. Its the opposite now. And I always try and help a man when I see one who needs it.

I too find I help more men, because more often than not they are the ones that are homeless. A legit homeless man doesn't ask you for money, but they ask you for food and shelter or even some shoes. Fortunately, there are several churches in my area where I can direct them for food and shoes. But those churches have a policy of "families" first which means women and children, so the men have to resort to living out in the elements. If they have food and good clothing, the men can endure it, but it is clear how society views men with how homeless men are treated versus women.

Thanks for all the responses. You guys pretty much understand how I feel, I don't dare talking about this to anyone IRL. Only a few people even know what my personal history is and why I get worked up reading stuff like this. I managed to get my life back on track, this reminds me that some don't. And it's appalling to me how mainstream media reports stuff like this. I have been on the inside of a psychiatric facility and although there were more women than men, the guys usually had much bigger problems to deal with. It was the guys who really had their backs against the wall when it came to housing, employment, finances, etc. My own sister is currently having a depression. (At least that is what she claims, I haven't seen her in a while) You would not believe how much sympathy she gets. And I'm sitting here thinking "You have a house, a job, a husband and a kid. What do you have to be depressed about?" If it was self pity I would feel sad about myself. Instead I feel like kicking her arse into gear.

Originally Posted by VTOLfreak

Thanks for all the responses. You guys pretty much understand how I feel, I don't dare talking about this to anyone IRL. Only a few people even know what my personal history is and why I get worked up reading stuff like this. I managed to get my life back on track, this reminds me that some don't. And it's appalling to me how mainstream media reports stuff like this. I have been on the inside of a psychiatric facility and although there were more women than men, the guys usually had much bigger problems to deal with. It was the guys who really had their backs against the wall when it came to housing, employment, finances, etc. My own sister is currently having a depression. (At least that is what she claims, I haven't seen her in a while) You would not believe how much sympathy she gets. And I'm sitting here thinking "You have a house, a job, a husband and a kid. What do you have to be depressed about?" If it was self pity I would feel sad about myself. Instead I feel like kicking her arse into gear.

Depression is normal for all humans to experience at some point. The reason why is that repetition on one hand allows you to accomplish many things, but it is still a thin veneer of just floating through life with the status quo. That is why when I hit that type of rut, I decide I do a complete "reboot" of my daily activities and how I approach work and my hobbies.

While it is easy to persuade and pacify the primitive parts of our brain there is still a juggling act of challenging the more advanced portions of it on a daily basis. This is why I do not seem myself ever going into "full blown" retirement even in old age.

As for your sister this depression is linked with her perceived value handed her instead of it being earned. This is why teaching someone to fish is way more valuable than handing them the fish. Because learning skills is what stimulates the advanced portion of your mind and also opens doors to try to learn news skills which promotes new neuron connections.

There are many people that are successful and accomplished that feel disconnected with reality as if they didn't earn anything. This feeling I believe is rooted in denying what makes a person truly happy and just floating through life with the default script.

I've lived with an emotional handicap myself for nearly three-quarters of my life..... the disability itself I can stomach... but the stigma....

speaking of the stigma.... have a look at this....

So, the question comes up:

What is to be done? What do we as MGTOW do about it?

Much of what used to be called "the battle of the sexes" continues in our politically correct world.

Little has changed in intent; men want sex from women, loyalty, and competent nest building. Women want to control men's lives completely, changing them into their vision; taming them. They use men as much as they use children, to exert power they would not normally have "in the wild."

Children are naturally at their whim, but men have to be tamed (married) to exert that power. Once trapped in marriage, sex can be withheld, as can access to children through divorce. The modern State's power defer almost exclusively to women.

So, it is really simple for men. If you do not want to be controlled by women directly or through the State proxy, do not marry or deposit your seed in women.

Therefore, MGTOW.