Thread: Don't break the omerta

Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

You gotta put the word out. You owe it as a duty to your gender. Posting on the internet won't do the job: the internet is a big place. But if someone doesn't want to hear about it, well, he has made his decision.

I agree with this wholeheartedly, but you have to be very careful how you go about it.

I have stated previously that I don’t lie, mainly because I don’t see the need and it can get confusing trying to remember who you said what to, never mind the awkwardness it causes when they get together and compare notes.

This, however, is an exception to my own rule. When it comes to the red-pill and MGTOW I lie my fucking ass off. There are at least two solid reasons I have for this:

The first is obvious, that I don’t wish to make myself stand out any more than I already do for being single in a gynocentic world.

The second though is much more devious. When blue-pill friends and acquaintances are going through a rough time and I wish to introduce them to the red pill I occasionally do so by making a mockery of it (and therefore us). My apologies for this but there is a method to my madness.

This tactic allows me to introduce the topic without endorsing it, thereby freeing me from recrimination and allowing them to “discover” it on their own.

If, on the other hand they come back to me later and tell me that they found it interesting then, and only then do I elaborate a little further with remarks like:

“Surprising isn’t it. What do you think about this …?”

In this way I can encourage them one step at a time, giving them the space they need to ingest each point separately instead of hitting them with it all at once.

It can be kinda funny though when they come back to me and try to red-pill me without realising it was I that introduced them to it in the first place. This tells me though that my strategy for not being held culpable works.

Gee I can be a right devious bastard!

I say that this is how I approach spreading the word IRL, but really I’ve done this only a handful of times. If I feel that the guy concerned won’t be receptive to it (blue pill to the core) I won’t bother. I’ll just make the usual blue-pill comments like “Man, that’s so fucked up. Women eh?” and leave it at that.


In one case in particular though I’ve noticed a BIG change in behaviour. He no longer womanises as he once did. I can’t say he is now MGTOW, or even red-pilled, but he has definitely changed.

Something got through.

We don’t talk about the red-pill much anymore and if we do it’s only when he brings it up. I’ve no desire to be “that guy”, the guy that’s always harping on the same topic.

Subtlety can work, just don’t go expecting miracles.

I've given up talking to men about RP in real life. I've tried a few times with little to no success. Usually the other person thinks you're a weirdo, a Misogynist, etc. etc.
Being RP can get you ostracized, black listed and even fired. The content creator Big John is an example. He was doxxed and feminists were calling his employer. Luckily he has a great employer who told these harpies to pound sand.

I'm convinced you have to find the Red Pill when you're ready, which means seeking answers based on your own questioning of what you're seeing in life. If you're not in this stage, you're not ready to be unplugged.

Many men just cannot wait to get back on the relationship escalator.

Example. I once worked with a man in his late 30's who was going through a brutal divorce. It was costing him well over $100,000 cash. Like at the point where he had to choose between a payment to his lawyer(s) to keep fighting or make his car payment. He told me stories about this shrew who was weaponizing his kids, using the legal and other community systems against him. He was literally going through hell.

Yet there he was dating another woman, getting very serious with her, etc. and there isn't even ink on divorce papers yet. He went on about what a good woman the new one is, but to tell you the truth, did he not think that about his wife in the first years? Of course he did.
Yet here he was lining it up to do it again with #2.

This is not the only example of this, I've known other men, personally, doing the exact same thing.

Like they say in AA, Attraction not promotion.

/Tired.

Blue-Pilled men remain on the female vibe until they don’t. Depending on how much fluoride has been in your water supply, perhaps there is a specific number of days from which a boy can see that they need not remain on the female level.

I stayed only for the vadge. I was an addict. It damn near ruined my entire life and it still tries.

Red-Pill Glasses are 20/20 with hindsight, because it’s truth, regrets and all…

It takes time for some to discover truth. Some. Never. Do.

Honestly, I’m not sure if I would have ever allowed this truth to cement into my head if I had not read about how other men were going through and experiencing the same things. It took camaraderie.

The first place if found this camaraderie was on various websites, after reading and reading and digging and digging, because something didn’t add up and no man I knew would confess his embarrassments over his pride and the protection in place to disguise his miserable life.

Originally Posted by TiredOfWmnSh!t

I've given up talking to men about RP in real life. I've tried a few times with little to no success. Usually the other person thinks you're a weirdo, a Misogynist, etc. etc.
Being RP can get you ostracized, black listed and even fired. The content creator Big John is an example. He was doxxed and feminists were calling his employer. Luckily he has a great employer who told these harpies to pound sand.

I'm convinced you have to find the Red Pill when you're ready, which means seeking answers based on your own questioning of what you're seeing in life. If you're not in this stage, you're not ready to be unplugged.

Many men just cannot wait to get back on the relationship escalator.

Example. I once worked with a man in his late 30's who was going through a brutal divorce. It was costing him well over $100,000 cash. Like at the point where he had to choose between a payment to his lawyer(s) to keep fighting or make his car payment. He told me stories about this shrew who was weaponizing his kids, using the legal and other community systems against him. He was literally going through hell.

Yet there he was dating another woman, getting very serious with her, etc. and there isn't even ink on divorce papers yet. He went on about what a good woman the new one is, but to tell you the truth, did he not think that about his wife in the first years? Of course he did.
Yet here he was lining it up to do it again with #2.

This is not the only example of this, I've known other men, personally, doing the exact same thing.

Like they say in AA, Attraction not promotion.

/Tired.

I see where your acquaintance was coming from. When you get divorce raped, it puts a flamethrower to your very being. Regardless of the circumstances (mine was your typical “she’s not HAAAAAPPPY anymore” and started fucking a guy at work), you still feel like a failure. So being the active problem solvers men are, it our initial instinct to jump right back on that horse with a different chick to prove to everyone (especially yourself), that you’re not a failure. That there are women out there that want you. That you don’t need that first bitch any more than she don’t need you. I went that route for about a year after my d-rape. It took that long for me to realize that all that headache, all that bullshit, all that money spent, is nowhere near worth it. I went through a shit ton of broads in that year and it was just awful. Trying to get rid of them when you realize that they are crazy , a gold digger or a whore is the worst. I finally realized the only viable solution. It’s right here in these hundreds of web pages on this site. 6 years later, it’s obvious that I stumbled on to the only real answer.

In my case, and I suspect in most all others, it doesn’t really hit home till you discover it yourself.