Thread: Don't beat yourself up if you used to simp on women

You didn't know then what you know now. A lot of people say of past mistakes, "I should have known." But that's a crock. You DIDN'T know. You were brought up all your life to cherish women.

Here's an extreme example. Back when I was 13, my family visited my great aunt in Austria. We had just had a huge meal on the plane and were all groggy and full. Then when my great aunt met us, she thought we must be hungry after a long flight, so she brought us to a restaurant and ordered a huge meal for us. None of us spoke German, and she didn't speak English, and we were unable to make her understand how stuffed full of food we already were.

Today I speak fluent German. If I went back with today's knowledge, I could just explain to her in German that we had already eaten. How stupid would it be for me to say, "I should have known German, and then I should have just explained it to her"? I DIDN'T know German.

And way back when, you didn't know not to simp. That was what all of us were taught to do, and it was supposed to work. Some beautiful woman who was sick and tired of the Chads using her and not appreciating her were supposed to be impressed by meeting a man who respects and values women.

You didn't know back then. You had no clue that respecting and valuing women had the exact OPPOSITE effect that you thought it should. You thought she would think, "Oh, cool, I'm sick and tired of these cads who just use me. Here's a great, respectful man. I'd better grab him." You kept thinking that would happen, but it never did.

You had been fed a bullshit script. There's no sense thinking back to the dumb things you did following the crappy script. You know better now, and so life can be better now. You can't go back in time and do things better. Therefore, there's no sense worrying about the past that you cannot change.

Though simping would happen anyway, I figure Walt Disney has done more damage than anyone else you could think of in this area. Walt had an entire nation of boomer kids eating out of his hand. Everything Disney did newer that Steamboat Willie beats the family values drum.

While Walt did value family, he sometimes failed, as most people do. The real reason he glorified plantation jobs was because it sold, both then and now. Not everything the studio did worked out, but it wasn't like today. Walt tried to make movies that would be successful, and if that meant pulling on the family heartstrings, as well as filling young boomer heads with blue pill crap, well that was fine by him. To be fair, it's what most people wanted to see.

Originally Posted by frog

Though simping would happen anyway, I figure Walt Disney has done more damage than anyone else you could think of in this area. Walt had an entire nation of boomer kids eating out of his hand. Everything Disney did newer that Steamboat Willie beats the family values drum.

While Walt did value family, he sometimes failed, as most people do. The real reason he glorified plantation jobs was because it sold, both then and now. Not everything the studio did worked out, but it wasn't like today. Walt tried to make movies that would be successful, and if that meant pulling on the family heartstrings, as well as filling young boomer heads with blue pill crap, well that was fine by him. To be fair, it's what most people wanted to see.

Yes, it's what people wanted. Just once I'd love to see a movie where a dude is a good guy, trying to achieve an important objective, but there are a lot of obstacles, including every single woman in the movie being cunty to him.

Are there any recent movies where even one woman is a shitty person?

Even if they make a movie with an evil woman character, they make a sequel later that dives into her past to explain why she became evil in the first place, and give her a permanent seat at the victim table.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Are there any recent movies where even one woman is a shitty person?

This definitely isn’t recent, but the last female villain I remember is Nurse Ratched from “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.” Even with that movie, I’ve heard plenty of people defend the bitch, saying that she was only doing her job. I don’t know. To me she was a bitch and a half.

That's EXACTLY how I was raised and taught.
Did the white knight thing, orbited, thought exactly what you posted IRT respecting and valuing et al, almost a total simp.
Did ANY of that get me anywhere? Not a snowballs chance in Hell.

It was ONLY when I acted like a Chad that I got any kind of attention, and at that point, I just wasn't interested any more.
Well ^^^that^^^ and certain wimmens hittin' that danged ol' wall and needing someone to take care of 'em
after having been booted from the carousel.

Fortunately, I didn't lose much money pursuing them, and never had the ol' divorce raping.
Kinda reminds me of an old Bobby Bare song "The Winner" about 1/2 way through how the big dude
stole another mans' wife, and now regrets it.

Song's a little long, but purty good:

When I was a kid there was nothing made by Disney that was off limits. I didn't have a chance.

Originally Posted by NorthwoodsHermit

That's EXACTLY how I was raised and taught.
Did the white knight thing, orbited, thought exactly what you posted IRT respecting and valuing et al, almost a total simp.
Did ANY of that get me anywhere? Not a snowballs chance in Hell.

It was ONLY when I acted like a Chad that I got any kind of attention, and at that point, I just wasn't interested any more.
Well ^^^that^^^ and certain wimmens hittin' that danged ol' wall and needing someone to take care of 'em
after having been booted from the carousel.

Fortunately, I didn't lose much money pursuing them, and never had the ol' divorce raping.
Kinda reminds me of an old Bobby Bare song "The Winner" about 1/2 way through how the big dude
stole another mans' wife, and now regrets it.

Song's a little long, but purty good:

Never heard that song before. It's fun.

All men go through simping. It's in our DNA. We are hardwired to be attracted and chase a nice butt or rack. We are brainwashed since we are little boys to kiss womens' asses , provide for and protect them. It's not until a man truly takes himself out of the picture and just sits back and watches that things become clear. He knows every woman that gave him simping advice NEVER EVER went for a guy that simped for them. They went for the asshole that treated them like crap and just used them. Good men got kicked in the face with a steel toed boot with a brick wrapped around it. Men that actually cared about women were immediately turned on when they said no to her requests. She ended up HATING them more than the asshole that kicked the crap out of her.

I can't tell you how many times I was "friends" with a woman and she ended up hating me cause she could no longer manipulate me. It just takes saying one word to them. NO. I have helped women out with countless (well into the thousands) dollars, fixed their cars(which means I also bought the parts ), fed them, helped them in their time of need, and just was totally shit on in the end. They would break plans and promises to me. They would ignore me. But as soon as I grew a spine and said NO then she'd go on a rant like " I am there for EVERYONE ELSE(she is right and but I was never everyone else) and people just let me down". There was also countless shaming tactics, untrue statements(A women wanted me to fight her boyfriend and when I said no she claimed I was afraid of him plus there is other incidents), lie for them when they couldn't ger their own story right and much more.

My breaking point was being "friends" with a feminist. She constantly talked and wouldn't let you get a word in, she bitched about how much she hated men but when she was in trouble she always reached out to men for help, and after you helped her she would totally ignore you and blame you for not coming around anymore. I had enough of women.

I simply just went ghost. I ignore them and no longer care about their temper tantrums or problems. Let some other asshole deal with them is my motto. Play the "What if" game with people in general. Any time someone wants something from you I want you to think "What if" it was me? Would they give it? Help me out? No matter how small the request is. It could be a stranger asking you for a smoke or someone asking for directions. 99% of the time the answer is NO. So now that's what I say. The hell with any type of simping.

Basically you are better off keeping to yourself…aside from places like this where no one ask of anything aside from following some basic rules. Knowing how people work means the more you interact the more pain you bring upon yourself. The times in my life where I’ve let people in meant I was always giving more than I received.

Aside from my parents, I’ve never asked anyone for anything…not help moving, not to borrow a dime, not a ride anywhere, no help paying a bill, not to borrow a tool…nothing. My dad was the same way. Perhaps not using people made me keen on seeing when people use me.

I never really had the ability to simp for women…when I knew I was doing it and had my fill of pussy it made me want revenge and to inflict long term psychological punishment without giving them the satisfaction of knowing why it’s happening. I’d rather punish them without letting them know that I know what’s going on. They’ll be a price to pay for you think you’re getting over on me. I could be the “perfect” man…but I can also pull the rug out.

Oddly enough, it was always my MOM hounding us about women using us. Maybe it’s because she knows how women think…I don’t know. She preaches that a relationship should be 50/50 on everything…and she’s probably right…always saying that if a woman loves/respects you she won’t try to use you. She’s probably right, but that philosophy pretty much demands being MGTOW in today’s world.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

All men go through simping. It's in our DNA. We are hardwired to be attracted and chase a nice butt or rack. We are brainwashed since we are little boys to kiss womens' asses , provide for and protect them. It's not until a man truly takes himself out of the picture and just sits back and watches that things become clear. He knows every woman that gave him simping advice NEVER EVER went for a guy that simped for them. They went for the asshole that treated them like crap and just used them. Good men got kicked in the face with a steel toed boot with a brick wrapped around it. Men that actually cared about women were immediately turned on when they said no to her requests. She ended up HATING them more than the asshole that kicked the crap out of her.

I can't tell you how many times I was "friends" with a woman and she ended up hating me cause she could no longer manipulate me. It just takes saying one word to them. NO. I have helped women out with countless (well into the thousands) dollars, fixed their cars(which means I also bought the parts ), fed them, helped them in their time of need, and just was totally shit on in the end. They would break plans and promises to me. They would ignore me. But as soon as I grew a spine and said NO then she'd go on a rant like " I am there for EVERYONE ELSE(she is right and but I was never everyone else) and people just let me down". There was also countless shaming tactics, untrue statements(A women wanted me to fight her boyfriend and when I said no she claimed I was afraid of him plus there is other incidents), lie for them when they couldn't ger their own story right and much more.

My breaking point was being "friends" with a feminist. She constantly talked and wouldn't let you get a word in, she bitched about how much she hated men but when she was in trouble she always reached out to men for help, and after you helped her she would totally ignore you and blame you for not coming around anymore. I had enough of women.

I simply just went ghost. I ignore them and no longer care about their temper tantrums or problems. Let some other asshole deal with them is my motto. Play the "What if" game with people in general. Any time someone wants something from you I want you to think "What if" it was me? Would they give it? Help me out? No matter how small the request is. It could be a stranger asking you for a smoke or someone asking for directions. 99% of the time the answer is NO. So now that's what I say. The hell with any type of simping.

Saying no and ignoring them also. Best combo. You want a women "loving" you? Ignore her. Repeatedly.

They also like you being mad, degenerate and off society when needed, powerful and even violent.

Look, that's what they are and do!

Originally Posted by max999

Saying no and ignoring them also. Best combo. You want a women "loving" you? Ignore her. Repeatedly.

They also like you being mad, degenerate and off society when needed, powerful and even violent.

Look, that's what they are and do!

Not in my experience. When I ignored a woman after she threw a fit cause I said NO then she had to gaslight and lie about me to anyone with ears. They were always victim. Just yesterday though , I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a total 360 just because I said NO! HAHAHAHA!

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

Not in my experience. When I ignored a woman after she threw a fit cause I said NO then she had to gaslight and lie about me to anyone with ears. They were always victim. Just yesterday though , I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a total 360 just because I said NO! HAHAHAHA!

I haven't said it is easy No easy route when it comes to women...

Ignoring her is for new women you meet (not on a date for sure...). If there is attraction she will bow down and come to you.

In general, you must always show that you can not be manipulated, that you have options with other women (and your money) and that you can disappear at any moment if she is in her crazy phase. Also, sex calm them down, the other option... Then you have the combo, disappear then sex lol (sometimes sex can be a duty for men also)!

Originally Posted by max999

I haven't said it is easy No easy route when it comes to women...

Ignoring her is for new women you meet (not on a date for sure...). If there is attraction she will bow down and come to you.

In general, you must always show that you can not be manipulated, that you have options with other women (and your money) and that you can disappear at any moment if she is in her crazy phase. Also, sex calm them down, the other option... Then you have the combo, disappear then sex lol (sometimes sex can be a duty for men also)!

I don't tolerate any crap. If anyone tries to shit test me or play games then I am gone. That's it. Last week my boss was shit testing me about a new employee. He was trying to pick me for info. I literally told my boss to "F**k off eat my ass". The look he gave me was priceless. I told him that I am here to earn a living and not gossip like girls in the high school bathroom and if he has a problem with someone then go bother them and leave me alone. I knew the dick licker didn't have the balls to fire me. I think he actually respected me for that.