Thread: Does anyone regret GYOW?

I’m 34 now, I waited too long anyways. Unless you get married in your early or mid 20s you’re single your whole life is what society wants you to believe.

I just don’t know how I feel waking up in 20 years and see myself in the same spot alone, with no friends, with no house, nothing to show for it other than living in the same apartment, same boring job.

I know a lot of kids I grew up with are still single, even relatives still single.

I do feel there’s a lot of injustices with men in the world right now, but do I want to die in politics? Idk.

Some days I wake up and think “I could do anything today, lets go find a GF” and nothing happens.

It's perfectly normal. We all have days where we question ourselves.

But I always have answers to the questions. I know why I am on this path.

I regret. Gmow, too late.

I suppose I regret the necessity of GMOW. I think back to previous generations, where marriage and children were the default. Men and women both knew the rules, they both understood what was expected of them and they both had familial, social, legal and religious motivations for staying together. Divorce wasn't unheard of back then. But it was uncommon and it was also heavily frowned upon.

Obviously, things are different now. And I don't see positive things coming in the immediate future.

But there are reasons to be hopeful for the long term future. Eventually, something has to give if western civilization is to be saved. And if that finally happens, the men who create a new system in the future will not make the same mistakes that the Greatest Generation, Silent Generation and Baby Boomers made when they took a match to the social order.

And if that ever happens, if some future generation of men can unfuck our current circumstances, then they'll have proven their mettle for all of history.

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

I’m 34 now, I waited too long anyways. Unless you get married in your early or mid 20s you’re single your whole life is what society wants you to believe.

I just don’t know how I feel waking up in 20 years and see myself in the same spot alone, with no friends, with no house, nothing to show for it other than living in the same apartment, same boring job.

I know a lot of kids I grew up with are still single, even relatives still single.

I do feel there’s a lot of injustices with men in the world right now, but do I want to die in politics? Idk.

Some days I wake up and think “I could do anything today, lets go find a GF” and nothing happens.

The fact that you made this thread prompts my response.

If any member here regrets GHOW, he's likely left this site or requested a self-ban.

You sound like you still think a good life requires an emotional relationship with a woman. That she brings you friends, a house, and a non-boring job. I wonder why you think a woman facilitates your life, gets you off of your duff, cures your ennui.

You can have nice things in life without a woman figuring in. Members here can help you see this, or keep reading our site.

Back when Intros were mandatory, we required new members to tell us about how women have burned them. From what you wrote here, it sounds like you have not had such negative experiences that would keep you from contemplating getting a girlfriend.

I would ask each new member these two questions:

1) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

2) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?

If you cannot answer No to both questions, then you are not MGTOW.

Our site is for men who are unequivocally red pill. Please decide where you are at, in this important point of membership here.

Reply back and succinctly answer those two questions.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

I’m 34 now, I waited too long anyways.

Bullshit, it's never too late to completely destroy your life and empire you built over a lifetime. All to get a woman's lower nostril and pay her bills.

Don't sell yourself short. Also, consider a heroin addiction. It's never too late!

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

Unless you get married in your early or mid 20s you’re single your whole life is what society wants you to believe.

Marriage is for stupid people, ie, early 20s people, who are naive and fantasize about their future with childlike hope and believing really hard that Disney is real.

ProTip: Disney isn't real. Santa Claus isn't real. There are no soul mates. The world isn't "just". There's no "karmic justice". There's nothing.

Your early 20s is when you have the most energy and are probably in the best shape you'll ever be in health wise.

After that the reality is you're just rotting away.

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

I just don’t know how I feel waking up in 20 years and see myself in the same spot alone, with no friends, with no house, nothing to show for it other than living in the same apartment, same boring job.

I think you skipped some steps. Where did "not worshipping pussy like a bitch", translate to, "I don't have friends and I'm in the same place I've always been alone"?

When did that extra luggage get added on?

Would you apply that to the unhappy marriage you're in, living in the same place with the same woman for 20 years, separate bedrooms because you woke up one day next to a complete stranger you don't recognize and find mostly horrible except you can't get rid of her without losing the kids and everything you worked for because courts favor her and you look over, seeing the waves of her disgust with you radiating off her body?

You'll fantasize about being in a one bedroom apartment that doesn't change and "alone".

Also, why can't you have friends? I have plenty of friends. Somehow I managed to pull that off, and I do jack shit all day. I don't even have pets. What would I do with a female around the house? Have to cook twice as much and double laundry?

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

I know a lot of kids I grew up with are still single, even relatives still single.

So you know a lot of high IQ people. Aren't you humble bragging.

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

I do feel there’s a lot of injustices with men in the world right now, but do I want to die in politics? Idk.

If you think MGTOW is about politics I think you're doing it wrong. This isn't a political position or some sort of strike, waiting on daddy.gov to make it all better. This is as good as it gets.

Also, back to the "alone" thing, you know you can date women and not marry them right? You kill off 90% of their power. Avoid cohabitating and you pretty much kill off 99% of their power. They only have the legal powers you're dumb enough to give them.

Originally Posted by NewLifeNewMe

Some days I wake up and think “I could do anything today, lets go find a GF” and nothing happens.

And that's certainly your right. And there's no "rule" that says you can't have a girlfriend. It's mostly about protecting yourself from external liabilities and not being a pussy worshipping bitch.

You accomplish this by loving the guy in the mirror more than the slut in the sheets.

Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW

... Eventually, something has to give if western civilization is to be saved. And if that finally happens, the men who create a new system in the future will not make the same mistakes that the Greatest Generation, Silent Generation and Baby Boomers made when they took a match to the social order.

Unfortunately, I believe history is doomed to repeat itself, and it takes many generations of people who have had to go through a lot of hardship before a new civilisation rises (usually with heavily anti-gynocentric roots). Then over time, gynocentrism creeps in and the hundred-year cycle of decline starts again.

The history of civilisations indicates a rise and fall over a cycle, some cycles spanning several hundreds of years, others, much shorter. From the history of the Roman Empire - which started out patriarchal (eg. they had laws where Roman men kept custody of the children, but yet they implemented laws in their conquered states whereby women would keep the children - gynocentric laws meant to weaken the subject states so they would remain weak and thus more easily controlled), the Roman Empire eventually fell when their own society became heavily gynocentric and their own men went a colour of MGTOW (their men refused to marry, reproduce, and fight).

We're on the long steady slope of the decline as we've no external barbarians at the gates, our technology and military power is peerless - it may take another hundred years before western civilisation falls, and by that time we'll be long gone.

I never regret it. I've been through it all. Women WILL turn on you in your weakest time then have others gaslight you.

Kids? They'll turn on you and everyone will believe them.

Now I stay away from it all. You actually believe in the Disney girlfriend? Put down the crack pipe.

This reply is for anyone man who hasn't experienced for himself the wreckage and aftermath of a relationship.

Suppose there is something that you really want to buy, maybe something to do with your favorite hobby. So, you do some research on the product and you find thousands of reviews, but every single review is someone who is saying that buying this product was the biggest mistake they ever made in their lives. Are you sure that you still want this product?

No woman has ever loved me as much as I loved her/them.

“I could do anything today, lets go find a GF” . . . . the most important word in that sentence is "Today".

Women are completely incapable of thinking long term.

If you find a GF, TODAY . . . . it just means that she is yours TODAY.

Not at all. On a monthly basis things happen in my personal life, to people I know and the world at large that only justify my decision. Every time I hear another pathetic dating story from a friend, drama in a relative's relationship, etc, I relish in the peaceful serenity that is my life.

Originally Posted by Toolband89

Not at all. On a monthly basis things happen in my personal life, to people I know and the world at large that only justify my decision. Every time I hear another pathetic dating story from a friend, drama in a relative's relationship, etc, I relish in the peaceful serenity that is my life.

Or just head over to the Female Dating Strategy Reddit page and you'll quickly be reminded of what kind of trap you could fall in.

Originally Posted by Inferno

Suppose there is something that you really want to buy, maybe something to do with your favorite hobby. So, you do some research on the product and you find thousands of reviews, but every single review is someone who is saying that buying this product was the biggest mistake they ever made in their lives. Are you sure that you still want this product?

Haha, I wish it were the case - the reality is in clown world, all the negative reviews are deleted, the accounts are banned and when those truthful reviewers try to take to other platforms to warn and educate others, they get silenced and de-platformed. When they try to meet to voice their grievances in conferences, the venues are blocked by protesters and fire-alarms are pulled to stop them from meeting. When a movie-documentary is made out of it, the movie gets shut down and movie-theatres pull the screenings.

If you're an ordinary Joe, you wouldn't even see the concerns, not one peep of negative review, and not from want of doing research. An ordinary person will only find good reviews. Everyone around will be singing praises on the product. The search engines will bury the bad results, only putting up those which have positive reviews. Research will be purposely biased and slanted to produce results that say this product is good, wonderful, etc. The media only publishes glowing reports on that product. The government and Presidents will back the media. He'll have no chance of finding out until its too late.

Originally Posted by Inferno

If you find a GF, TODAY . . . . it just means that she is yours TODAY.

Excellent point which bears repeating. She's not yours - it's just your turn.

OP - regret GYOW? Hell no. There are fems around me, but every time i think about interacting with them i think about everything i've lost, all the potential pain and unrest they can bring, plus the potential for some whacked-out, falsified criminal accusation they can initiate against me (with all the power of the politicized law-enforcement at their disposal).

So yeah, no regret.

At 34 you've got sooo much potential ahead of you. Srsly.

Advice i give my son, in plain, simple terms:

1) get into a job/career that you're good at and can make a good (financial) living at
2) develop a hobby or three
3) become physically active - gym, run, bike, or combo activity as a hobby

The commonality in my suggestions above is activity. Move. Do. Go. And BECOME an active person in some measure. Force/discipline yourself. A disciplined life is profoundly valuable - among the most valuable things you can acquire.

Oh yeah, as regards GYOW.... Well, i have two kids i love and 1 of them i adore...the other is a pain in the azz, but she's my daughter so.....

Otherwise, yeah, i'd really like to not have had the life-wrenching pain failed relationships bring and would certainly like to have back the 100's of thousands of dollars lost in my relationship missteps.

That said, i can't go back and change any of it.... So as this day nears it's end, i'll concentrate on conquering tomorrow and enjoying every phouking thing i can - from my modest house, my awesome car, the great job/team i lead for "work", my strange pit-mix dog, and a whole bunch of other great "things" i get to enjoy.

That's what you need to be doing - especially at 34 years old.

I think the key word below is "burned". MGTOW alerts you to the traps set for men in the USA so you can avoid getting burned. A prime example is the arms dealer in L.A. Botach. Guy 'married" a high risk JAP divorcee and walked away with his house and most of his money after he threw her out of his house in her nightgown because he planned in advance to avoid the traps that would take men less clever. No divorce, no wasting time, once she showed her true colors, he arranged to move her out of his house asap. He went into the fires of a California relationship with a battle hardened divorcee and lived to tell the tale! LOL
For most guys here, avoiding getting burned means checking out the Pay for Play section of this blog where you can leave this feminist country and go somewhere more safe to party with hot women.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

The fact that you made this thread prompts my response.

If any member here regrets GHOW, he's likely left this site or requested a self-ban.

You sound like you still think a good life requires an emotional relationship with a woman. That she brings you friends, a house, and a non-boring job. I wonder why you think a woman facilitates your life, gets you off of your duff, cures your ennui.

You can have nice things in life without a woman figuring in. Members here can help you see this, or keep reading our site.

Back when Intros were mandatory, we required new members to tell us about how women have burned them. From what you wrote here, it sounds like you have not had such negative experiences that would keep you from contemplating getting a girlfriend.

I would ask each new member these two questions:

1) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

2) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?

If you cannot answer No to both questions, then you are not MGTOW.

Our site is for men who are unequivocally red pill. Please decide where you are at, in this important point of membership here.

Reply back and succinctly answer those two questions.

Thank you.

Yes, MGTOW isn't cool. Happy life is finding a good wife, have a family, kids, good job. Getting marry does NOT nessearily means that your wife will be bad, you will have a miserable life. Sometimes, people will lead a happy life. Sometimes, they won't. It just for some people, incullding myself, the MGTOW isn't a choice. It's mandatory.

Originally Posted by Chady

Yes, MGTOW isn't cool. Happy life is finding a good wife, have a family, kids, good job. Getting marry does NOT nessearily means that your wife will be bad, you will have a miserable life. Sometimes, people will lead a happy life. Sometimes, they won't. It just for some people, incullding myself, the MGTOW isn't a choice. It's mandatory.

If you think being happy is with wife, family and kids, then what's stopping you? You sound as if someone tied you up and forced you to sign up as MGTOW at the point of a gun or worse. What gives? Why are you being forced into something you're not happy about?

There is the door, man, nothing is stopping you. If you're seeking validation for what you deem a miserable life you're in the wrong place, my friend. I never thought MGTOW is for every man. Some men are meant to be slaves; some really want to be slaves.

I like threads like this because it's a chance to see who is only wearing "the patch" because they have no other option. They scream MGTOW but they aren't really going their own way, they're only forced onto it. Somewhere deep down in the recesses of their hearts they yearn for their serenic angels. Those are men that would get married instantly if the laws change today. For those men's sake I really wish they'd go and find themselves a woman, really. Just drop the MGTOW thing already. You're free to go join the bands of other men going the other direction. Please.

PS: No friends, no house, same miserable job,...all that is on you, bro. MGTOW has nothing to do with that. What that tells me is that without a label like MGTOW to latch onto as an excuse for your miserable life those things would still be lacking in your life. With or without MGTOW you'd be in the same position in life. Stop blaming MGTOW. All on you, bro.

i don't regret gmow but i have 2 boys and that's something i would've regretted not doing. if i were to feel lonely, i'd get a dog.

Originally Posted by johnsmith79

If you think being happy is with wife, family and kids, then what's stopping you? You sound as if someone tied you up and forced you to sign up as MGTOW at the point of a gun or worse. What gives? Why are you being forced into something you're not happy about?

Because I got in a failed relationship, in which my ex cheated on me. I then tried to get dates, but I was always rejected. Then, I became the best version of myself. I bulit a great physique, made a lot of money, grew a beard. Generally, I made my life a lot better, and still got rejected by the lowest girls? Are those enough reasons, man? It's just I got a lot of bad experiences with money whether those were work-realtd or relationship realted.

Been a misfit since I was a kid always likes different things and saw the world differently to most.

Always been going my own way since before it had a name and before the internet. I’m not trying to be rebellious or make statements etc it is just who I am.

So no regrets.