Thread: Do we all pay for sex?

I was doing a lot of thinking this morning and had a realization. Unless you are a top 5% man. Rich, in shape, and good looking, you are still paying for sex and telling me I'm missing out on a relationship or marriage is just bullshit.

Relationships and marriage are nothing more then legalized prostitution. Except you often don't get what you really want and the costs outweigh the rewards.

Think of it for one second.

Dates cost money. Gas costs money. You need gas to take women on dates and of course money for resteraunts, events, etc.

Unless you can literally call up a woman and say "come over" (which I don't think barley any people can do), your paying for sex.

Am I right about this realization or am I just an idiot?

Yes. Media brainwashing/sorcery makes us think other wise.

The Romans felt that not controlling female sexuality would lead to an unstable society, especially factoring in where men may be forced to pay and raise kids that aren't theirs biologically.

And of course the Romans enforced monogamy, to further give men the belief they had a future stake on the society, and take part in their geopolitical wars.

Originally Posted by osantium

Yes. Media brainwashing/sorcery makes us think other wise.

The Romans felt that not controlling female sexuality would lead to an unstable society, especially factoring in where men may be forced to pay and raise kids that aren't theirs biologically.

And of course the Romans enforced monogamy, to further give men the belief they had a future stake on the society, and take part in their geopolitical wars.

So it's not "just me"?

Are these top 20% all the rich guys? When I think of a top 20% guy I think of like, Brad Pitt. Leonardo DiCaprio.

If a chad is poor will he still get a lot of action? Mind you. Living at home. No real job.

I notice one of my friends posted a meme showing a wallet that said "with girlfriend" and it was totally empty of cash and another image that said without which was loaded.

Originally Posted by AwareOfItAll

So it's not "just me"?

If a chad is poor will he still get a lot of action? Mind you. Living at home. No real job.

Yes, he can get a one night stand, if he gives off the persona/"confidence" he's been with multiple women already; even if he's a midget, cus hey, 'Gotta try new things'.

If said women is looking to attain resources, she'll know to 'tone it down' with the "alpha-ness", and look for a nitwit beta. All with the backing of the government when it comes time for divorce.

Every single man pays for sex every single time. One way or another.

Some men, whether a result of genetics, or fortune, or hard work have more resources with which to pay, but they still have to pay.

Originally Posted by AwareOfItAll

I was doing a lot of thinking this morning and had a realization. Unless you are a top 5% man. Rich, in shape, and good looking, you are still paying for sex and telling me I'm missing out on a relationship or marriage is just bullshit.

Relationships and marriage are nothing more then legalized prostitution. Except you often don't get what you really want and the costs outweigh the rewards.

Think of it for one second.

Dates cost money. Gas costs money. You need gas to take women on dates and of course money for resteraunts, events, etc.

Unless you can literally call up a woman and say "come over" (which I don't think barley any people can do), your paying for sex.

Am I right about this realization or am I just an idiot?

Yes, of course. You pay for sex via marriage or dating. It's just a really shitty deal. You get used for money by someone who hates you, or at least eventually will. And the sex is not guaranteed. In two years time, you could go out on 300 dates, averaging $200 each. Your grand total would be a whopping $60,000, and you still wouldn't be guaranteed any sex. And this is all with women who believe in gender equality ... except for dating, the man should pay.

The alternative is to find a good quality sex worker. It's a much, much better deal. You pay her directly, and you get sex. Then she doesn't meddle in your life.

Any working girls I had are dead of old age by now. Haven't had a date or a relationship for over thirty years. Yet I pay for pussy every day of the week. We all do. Every time a woman picks Big Daddy government over marrying some guy, we pay. Unless you're a bigfoot living in a cave with no human contact, you're paying. There's more woman signing up every day too. The only good thing about this whole mess, is it's still better than marrying their worthless ass's.

Yep. And not only do you pay you have to lower yourself and appeal to their egos before you even get the chance to pay for the date! Then you may not get to have sex either. Even though she has been banging Chads without a care in the world, she will make the nice guy work harder.

I came to that realisation very young and it’s why I didn’t even bother with dating or hook ups. I just hired an escort. No bullshit flirting or games.

I never looked back.

Drop the 5% part and just say "If you are a man....you are paying for sex" and you have it right.

Everybody pays. Melinda Gates is going to get $60 billion dollars out of the divorce from Bill. Of course the MSM claims it's his fault. So he also has to pay with a hit to his reputation.

The top 5% just take a proportionally larger hit when the payment comes due.

You always pay for it, in so many ways.

Free porn and masturbation costs nothing. Sex (for women) costs nothing. For men? It costs everything.

Originally Posted by AwareOfItAll

I was doing a lot of thinking this morning and had a realization. Unless you are a top 5% man. Rich, in shape, and good looking, you are still paying for sex and telling me I'm missing out on a relationship or marriage is just bullshit.

Relationships and marriage are nothing more then legalized prostitution. Except you often don't get what you really want and the costs outweigh the rewards.

Think of it for one second.

Dates cost money. Gas costs money. You need gas to take women on dates and of course money for resteraunts, events, etc.

Unless you can literally call up a woman and say "come over" (which I don't think barley any people can do), your paying for sex.

Am I right about this realization or am I just an idiot?

You are correct, sir.

Yes we do, be it monetarily or emotionally. or both if you're a real retard.

The way I understand it, you pay regardless
with one or more of these 4 items

1) Money
2) Time
3) Attention
4) Energy

Not anymore. It isn't worth the grief. Women are the "black holes", or "roach hotels" of the universe. (You can 'check in' but it is hell to 'check out').

Originally Posted by The Captain

Not anymore. It isn't worth the grief. Women are the "black holes", or "roach hotels" of the universe. (You can 'check in' but it is hell to 'check out').

I did get sex for a while via PUA before I went MGTOW. I had to do that to discover that it's not worth it. The PUA stuff worked, if you measure success simply by getting laid. However, it just became gross and not worth it. You can get a turn with a sleazy slovenly slatternly slut if you play your cards right, but I've decided it's not worth it. You'll get with some skankahoe piece of trash who's fucked 4,387 men, 586 women, and one Golden Retriever. You could wear a condom, but it's still gross.

There was good reason for slut shaming. It kept women from being sleazy and revolting tramps before marriage and from being adulteresses in marriage.

Originally Posted by djlee

Every single man pays for sex every single time. One way or another.

Some men, whether a result of genetics, or fortune, or hard work have more resources with which to pay, but they still have to pay.

Nah.

If you can legit get to a level where you can fire up a dating app and say "come here" and just give your address and get whatever you want you aren't paying for it. No gas to travel. No gas spent on dates. No money spent on dates. Just a message and you got it. How many people can realistically do this though? 5% of guys maybe? 10? I don't even think it's 80/20. More like 90/10 with globalization.

Any other way I agree though, you are paying for it.

Originally Posted by FrankS

The way I understand it, you pay regardless
with one or more of these 4 items

1) Money
2) Time
3) Attention
4) Energy

Money is the one that really matters to most people out of all those though. Sex is fun and a guy doesn't care if it costs him time, attention, and energy.

Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneThat

Drop the 5% part and just say "If you are a man....you are paying for sex" and you have it right.

Everybody pays. Melinda Gates is going to get $60 billion dollars out of the divorce from Bill. Of course the MSM claims it's his fault. So he also has to pay with a hit to his reputation.

The top 5% just take a proportionally larger hit when the payment comes due.

Except the ones smart enough not to marry like Leo DiCaprio.

Marriage and Taxes are the 2 biggest hinderances to the modern man's success. Both are just ways of the government trying to chain you down. You don't have to marry so that leaves you with one devil which is better then 2 I guess. If you marry and cohabitate you are pretty much fucked in 2022 though. In the 80s it was probably different.

The fact that the OG MGTOW subreddit got nuked but FDS was allowed to stay should raise some extreme suspicion to any logically thinking person. What do they not want us to know? Why would they nuke MGTOW? Hmmmmm.

The reason they nuked it is because it helps men. it helps give them the "heads up" to all of the modern landmines in modern society and says "hey, the bomb is here. don't walk this way" and of course those in power don't want you knowing that.