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    Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    I've watched all three seasons of You. I've got to admit it's entertaining, though I'm starting to get tired of anti-hero shows. If you haven't seen it, it's about this dude who gets a crush on a woman who comes into the bookshop he's working in. They have the same taste in authors and have a good conversation. At first it seems like a normal boy-meets-girl plot. However, he ends up becoming obsessed with her and stalks her around to learn more about her. He even breaks into her apartment when she's not there to learn more about her.

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    He keeps upping the ante to get with her. He abducts and murders her boyfriend so that he can take her place. Then when he's with her, if he doesn't approve of one of her girlfriends, he murders her.

    That was the first season. There are two similar seasons after that with the basic formula that he thinks he's some kind of romantic who just wants a good relationship when in reality he's this psychopath and serial killer.

    It's definitely well written and will hold your attention, but I do have that sick feeling that this shit reinforces what feminists already believe about men. I used to be baffled by feminist behavior. I didn't get why they were so hostile toward men who aren't hurting anyone. Unfortunately, feminists have been conned into believing that men are inherently evil. According to them, we're all a bunch of rapists or wannabe rapists or even stalkers or murderers. I know most dudes will be smart enough to watch You and know that it's just a TV show and that most men don't do anything remotely like that serial killer. I just have this sick feeling that feminist-brainwashed women will watch that shit and be dumb enough to think that it's an example of the typical man. The level of stupidity on the part of feminists has never failed to surprise me. No matter how absurd something is, there's a feminist ridiculous enough to believe it.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    Well if 50 Shades o Grey taught anything, it's probably that the primary audience for this show is women and they totally would dig this sort of fantasy of a man being so crazy for him.

    Well, as long as he's attractive or a good actor.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk View Post
    Well if 50 Shades o Grey taught anything, it's probably that the primary audience for this show is women and they totally would dig this sort of fantasy of a man being so crazy for him.

    Well, as long as he's attractive or a good actor.
    That brings up a good point. The actor playing the part, Penn Badgley, said in an interview that there were women who kept saying they wanted to date his character. Not the actor, but the character in the show, in other words, a stalker and serial murderer. Badgley is good looking. In other words, as long as the dude is hot, he could be a stalker and serial killer and it would be okay. It would be different if they said they wanted to date the actor. Badgley doesn't do that shit in real life. But they said they would be good with dating that character. The level of women's stupidity knows no bounds. I remember being disgusted by women who wrote love letters to serial killers on death row. Ted Bundy got away with his crimes for a long time because he was handsome and charming.

    But if you're ordinary looking, being a stand-up guy will make no difference. They'll assume you're some kind of stalker and will despise you. If you're good looking, you could actually be a stalker or murderer, but you're good.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    Never seen the show, but a murderer being obsessed with the woman may be appealing. In some women's minds, being obsessively chased would mean they are highly desirable.

    Not only this, the guy is willing to go to extreme lengths to be with her which shows his tenacity, very twisted though it may be. In fact, there was a reddit post ( which I can't find anymore) which listed a shitload of studies showing that women consistently prefer psychopaths, narcissists and their ilk.

    This has definitely got something to do with the big five personality traits, which shows women are higher in neuroticism than men. High trait neuroticism pre-disposes a person to mood disorders and such. Explains the crazy shit women do (and the crazy shit they're willing to put up with aka male psychos).

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    .... However, he ends up becoming obsessed with her and stalks her around to learn more about her. He even breaks into her apartment when she's not there to learn more about her.

    ....

    He keeps upping the ante to get with her. He abducts and murders her boyfriend so that he can take her place. Then when he's with her, if he doesn't approve of one of her girlfriends, he murders her.
    .... .
    OMG, no just no. "I can't even...."

    Watch those ridiculous ghost hunter shows before watching this tripe......

    Edited to add: It's Netflix.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    TV shows have always reinforced the creepy guy stereotype. Look at the 'Teen comedy' TV shows where there is always one Screech-type character whose sole purpose is to be treated like shit by the rest of the hot looking cast for not being good looking and cool.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    I prefer to detox from today's misandrist shows by watching 80's series like The Fall Guy, A-Team & MacGyver (not the crappy re-make)... where male ingenuity & creativity win the day.

    Heck, even the original Charlie's Angels was not only eye candy but also fun. For a "girl power" show, the ladies were never "in-your-face" or showed any sign of hatred towards men.

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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    A man who is so hung up on a woman that he will break the law? Risk prison? Revert to a primal state?

    Huge ego boost for women. The fact that women write to real prisoners and marry them says it all really.

    Have never heard of the show though.
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    Re: Do shows like "You" reinforce the stereotype of the creepy dude?

    I think this show is another example of media portraying the majority men in a poor light, I don't recall one positively portrayed male character in the show, but most of the women in it are just misunderstood princesses caught up in a situation beyond their control, their accountability for certain things thrown out of the window (sound familiar in the real world?). With positively masculine male characters portrayed in media fast approaching zero, women (and a lot of men too) will think most men are potential stalkers, abusers, murderers, rapists and worse. Its simply not the case of course but if most media consumed reinforces this idea many people will just believe it automatically and forget conveniently that these shows are make believe. Its a well written show absolutely, and if it could be watched as a one off thing sure I might enjoy it more, but for me it just adds to the huge pile of other media already taking a huge dump on men.


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