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    Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    [spoilers re Wifelike ahead]

    This film started out with a lot of potential. It started with this dude getting his android wife and getting her set up. They showed that he had had a wife, but she died, and he was now a widower. So then they re-created his wife as an android, and infused her same memories into the android. So it was like getting his wife back, and you could totally relate to the dude's sorrow, and then has happiness of getting her back in some form.

    Turns out he works for the Wifelike company, and his just is to repo stolen companion androids. Then there's also this feminist terrorist organization who, of course, begrudge the man his happiness, just like real feminists despise and hate on men who get silicone sex dolls or today's admittedly much-less-sophisticated sex robots like Harmony. I was sitting there thinking, "Of course the feminists hate him." Then the feminist terrorists would keep stealing companion androids and reprogram them to go out there and kill men who had companions.

    So far the plot was working great. You could totally feel for the dude. Too bad they ruined it after this point.

    [deeper spoilers ahead]

    So then it turns out that his companion, Meredith, keeps having scary memory flashbacks. Eventually, it's revealed that she wasn't actually his wife in her human life. She was his hostage. He had stalked her and murdered her boyfriend and abducted her. Then he murdered her and created a companion android in her image. Then the terrorists turned out to be the "good guy" feminist freedom fighters who were out to stop the abuse of women from evil dudes like him. She regains all her memories about how he was actually this terrible stalker dude who kidnapped her and bullied her, and then she turns on some kind of super strength feature (that they never let us know she had) and she kills him by cruelly breaking his two arms and then smothering him with a pillow.

    The movie ends with her as the leader of the feminist terrorist group chanting about how great they are and how evil men are.

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    They had a great thing going with a really sympathetic protagonist. Who wouldn't feel for a dude who missed is late wife so much that he created an android of her? Then of course, they had to ruin it buy turning it into a feminist cliché. Any lonely dude is, of course, evil in reality, according to feminists. They vilify lonely men in real life, so it's no surprise that they would do it in a movie. Feminists vilify dudes simply for going out and trying to find a girlfriend. As usual, feminists don't care one iota about whether a man is happy. We see that in real life in this femi-loon, Kathleen Richardson, who pisses and moans about the sophisticated, non-sentient, Harmony sex robot.

    The movie would have been way better if they had kept it about a lonely guy whose wife died and how rotten and callous feminist terrorists behaved toward him. But, no, they had to have this supposedly brilliant twist, where they turn it into a feminist movie where, of course, the dude is abusive. How much do you want to bet the original version of the script wasn't like that? Their Hollywood focus group probably warned them that they'd better turn the film into a feminist cliché promoting their dogma or else.

    It's a bummer that a film that started with such promise should turn into feminist tripe just to please the Feminist Mind Police out there.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNuts View Post
    I hate to say it, but they made the movie exactly they wanted it. The hero always was to be female. Even better from victim to hero...

    There will be no strong hero men in any mainstream movie. The last thing Hollywood wants is an idol figure that men could look up for, in admiration. They want weak men, or no men. Strong men fight back,
    I keep forgetting how they've cucked Hollywood. We used to have movies where men were good people, and even heroes. Nowadays, the main male character in a movie has to be either a woman-hating villain or a buffoon whom everyone laughs at.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    About 10 years ago Hollywood's financing began to come primarily from the CCP. At the same time, the writers, producers' assistants, etc. were all Liberal Art Rich Girls and Guys totally woke (late 80s+20 years).

    The latter is also a big problem besides China's money - Rich Leftists whose issues and worldviews are nearly 180 from the general populace, they don't need the job to have money to survive or thrive, it's purely to give them status and something to do. There was a guy who was ex-military and a camera man and worked mostly on Car Ads for TV, who explained how the whole production staff writing and planning commercials are all Rich Leftist Kids who don't need to work, and now they're established enough they recommend each other and if you aren't in the circle/worldview, you don't get the job.

    As recently as the 2000s, movies were getting the NR rating (kiss of death because it means it can't play in 95%+ of commercial theaters, only art/indy places) because of a single Lesbian kiss or aggressively "anti-traditional" values/plots being pushed.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    [spoilers re Wifelike ahead]

    This film started out with a lot of potential. It started with this dude getting his android wife and getting her set up. They showed that he had had a wife, but she died, and he was now a widower. So then they re-created his wife as an android, and infused her same memories into the android. So it was like getting his wife back, and you could totally relate to the dude's sorrow, and then has happiness of getting her back in some form.

    Turns out he works for the Wifelike company, and his just is to repo stolen companion androids. Then there's also this feminist terrorist organization who, of course, begrudge the man his happiness, just like real feminists despise and hate on men who get silicone sex dolls or today's admittedly much-less-sophisticated sex robots like Harmony. I was sitting there thinking, "Of course the feminists hate him." Then the feminist terrorists would keep stealing companion androids and reprogram them to go out there and kill men who had companions.

    So far the plot was working great. You could totally feel for the dude. Too bad they ruined it after this point.

    [deeper spoilers ahead]

    So then it turns out that his companion, Meredith, keeps having scary memory flashbacks. Eventually, it's revealed that she wasn't actually his wife in her human life. She was his hostage. He had stalked her and murdered her boyfriend and abducted her. Then he murdered her and created a companion android in her image. Then the terrorists turned out to be the "good guy" feminist freedom fighters who were out to stop the abuse of women from evil dudes like him. She regains all her memories about how he was actually this terrible stalker dude who kidnapped her and bullied her, and then she turns on some kind of super strength feature (that they never let us know she had) and she kills him by cruelly breaking his two arms and then smothering him with a pillow.

    The movie ends with her as the leader of the feminist terrorist group chanting about how great they are and how evil men are.

    --------------------------------------

    They had a great thing going with a really sympathetic protagonist. Who wouldn't feel for a dude who missed is late wife so much that he created an android of her? Then of course, they had to ruin it buy turning it into a feminist cliché. Any lonely dude is, of course, evil in reality, according to feminists. They vilify lonely men in real life, so it's no surprise that they would do it in a movie. Feminists vilify dudes simply for going out and trying to find a girlfriend. As usual, feminists don't care one iota about whether a man is happy. We see that in real life in this femi-loon, Kathleen Richardson, who pisses and moans about the sophisticated, non-sentient, Harmony sex robot.

    The movie would have been way better if they had kept it about a lonely guy whose wife died and how rotten and callous feminist terrorists behaved toward him. But, no, they had to have this supposedly brilliant twist, where they turn it into a feminist movie where, of course, the dude is abusive. How much do you want to bet the original version of the script wasn't like that? Their Hollywood focus group probably warned them that they'd better turn the film into a feminist cliché promoting their dogma or else.

    It's a bummer that a film that started with such promise should turn into feminist tripe just to please the Feminist Mind Police out there.
    I do believe H'wood is playing with fire and that men should Quit America (and Europe). If we're not going to be respected by the main apparatus that shapes the culture, and therefore people's perceptions, we should leave. I have. It's made my life a lot better. There's a next-level bitchiness of American women that can ONLY be explained by feminism everywhere.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    I do believe H'wood is playing with fire and that men should Quit America (and Europe). If we're not going to be respected by the main apparatus that shapes the culture, and therefore people's perceptions, we should leave. I have. It's made my life a lot better. There's a next-level bitchiness of American women that can ONLY be explained by feminism everywhere.
    I like your advice. But being a geezer, and a crusty one at that, I couldn't care less what society want's or thinks of me anymore. I tried to play their game, but they wouldn't have it. They're on their own now. But since those feminists, their friends, and the blue pill world in general have nothing I need, I figure I can ride it out ok in the ancestorial homeland for however many years I got left.

    But if I was young, could afford it, and knew of somewhere I'd like to go, I'd be with you like a rat up a drainpipe.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    I do believe H'wood is playing with fire and that men should Quit America (and Europe). If we're not going to be respected by the main apparatus that shapes the culture, and therefore people's perceptions, we should leave. I have. It's made my life a lot better. There's a next-level bitchiness of American women that can ONLY be explained by feminism everywhere.
    I think there are some folks working on media/entertainment options that are more traditional/conservative and not completely woke as well...hard to see if it will gain traction while trying to compete with the monolith that exists (and the funds behind it).

    I like the option of quitting it all too...not necessarily physically leaving...but certainly in all other respects.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    I do believe H'wood is playing with fire and that men should Quit America (and Europe). If we're not going to be respected by the main apparatus that shapes the culture, and therefore people's perceptions, we should leave. I have. It's made my life a lot better. There's a next-level bitchiness of American women that can ONLY be explained by feminism everywhere.
    I agree, bitchy and entitled to the next level. Not having the means to flee, I'm ghosting in plain sight and have been for many years, solidarity is your best defense in a culture of hostile players.

    Dubai sounds like an awesome place that's not infected yet. It doesn't matter to me, American women gave me immunity to the worst of female nature. I'm good to go anywhere and be happy, especially considering I keep myself happy and content here! Joy starts at home and you take it everywhere you go!
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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I agree, bitchy and entitled to the next level. Not having the means to flee, I'm ghosting in plain sight and have been for many years, solidarity is your best defense in a culture of hostile players.

    Dubai sounds like an awesome place that's not infected yet. It doesn't matter to me, American women gave me immunity to the worst of female nature. I'm good to go anywhere and be happy, especially considering I keep myself happy and content here! Joy starts at home and you take it everywhere you go!
    Love this approach tower - I seem to wrestle daily with uprooting and finding somewhere else better aligned with how I view the world (politically/economically/socially etc) - obviously there are some like-minded folks around here - but we are in blue-pill sea of ignorance and apathy.

    I've mentioned my situation (farm) - and I absolutely love this place and the considerable work I've put into it....

    By necessity I must interact with the outside world, but do my best to also ghost in plain sight (didn't realize that was what I was doing until I came to this forum).

    I was uncertain of how my newfound freedom from realizing how MGTOW was the way for me was going to emanate to the outside world - but the joy is apparently palpable. ALL of my interactions are deeper and genuine (friends and strangers alike).

    It's challenging to put into words. I'm cautious to reveal very little about myself and there is still something freeing about not having anything to prove and realizing I don't have to fake it anymore as I only have to impress myself. Doesn't quite capture it, but that is the gist of it.

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    Re: Disappointed in movie, Wifelike

    Yes, I already have seen some spoilers about this movie, but even so, it is in my must-watch list, just like many other movies on robotics, especially female bots or techs like that.

    Even if the plot sucks, it is important to see as much possibilities as possible about what could go wrong and what could go right if those techs were created in a near future. So even if the movie sucks and it is anti-men, maybe we must watch anyway since it is about a technology that could be created in a near future, could be important for Mgtows, then we should be really aware about the problems that it could create.

    There are other movies like Archive, Her, Ex Machina, Alita: Battle Angel, I am Mother, Blade Runner (there are 2 movies, I like both) and others that I will still watch that you can try. And I am not even including series and games like Cyberpunk and Detroit Become Human. If you are interested in this topic, you can find at least some good ideas in such movies and games, even if they suck or if they are anti-Mgtows. It is even better to think about problems and solutions than just watching utopic movies.
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