Thread: Different MGTOW strategies depending on whether you're introverted or extroverted

The recent thread about loneliness has made me realize that we're not all the same. Some people are more introverted while others tend to be extroverted. It's also not a simple binary, but rather a sliding scale. In other words, some people are more introverted than others, while some people are more extroverted than others.

I tend to be introverted. In general, I prefer solitude, but I can socialize, and I even like to socialize. I just can't overdo it. I can work an entire week, not missing anyone, but when the weekend comes, I need to be in touch with family and friends. Homo sapien human beings (that's us) survived as tribal communities. There were many species that were stronger and faster than us (including some other types of humans, for example, Neanderthals). We survived by having a highly developed intellect, and by cooperation in large numbers.

That's why most people have an instinctive need for at least some contact with other humans. Extroverts need it all the time. I remember living with a roommate who drove me nuts. He was extroverted, and thus had people over all the time. As an introvert, I had much more need for privacy than he did. I remember feeling frustrated and wishing that all the damn people would just go away.

Today, I live alone in my own place, and work from home in solitude. I prefer that! However, it's still important for me to stay in touch with members of my family, especially my sister and brother. I also have a friend from school whom I talk with regularly on the phone. I also very much enjoy my Skype-based French lessons. It's not just the learning of another language that's important to me. I like getting to know the people in other countries as well.

I could not survive living in total solitude in a wilderness cabin in rural Alaska with all my food and clothing needs met. For some people, that sounds like a dream come true. These people are super-introverts. Some people would rather be totally cut off from all civilization. That's not me. I'm just a basic introvert where I would rather be alone, most of the time, but I do socialize some and stay in contact some.

An extrovert would go nuts trying to live like I do. Maybe an extroverted MGTOW would rather work as a fireman, and some of his work colleagues wouldn't be just be colleagues, but would also be good friends. Maybe they would even hang out after work, or meet up to watch sports together or go fishing, hunting, etc.

I bring this up because it's clear to me that there is no one-size-fits-all strategy for MGTOW living. Due to different personality types, different strategies need to be taken. I would hope that my ex roommate has found MGTOW and therefore is no longer centering his life around trying to impress women. However, unlike me, he would still need to interact with people a lot of the time, pretty much every day.

It makes me wonder why introversion evolved. Homo sapiens evolved and survived as communities who cooperated, taking advantage of people's various skills. For example, some tribal members were great hunters. Other tribesmen may have been lousy hunters but were great at building the hunters' weapons. Still other people were good at gathering; others were good at building protective structures, etc. This community approach made humans very powerful, even more powerful than animals that were faster and stronger. Maybe there was also some kind of need for a type of person who could handle more solitude. Maybe such persons went away on long reconnaissance missions. The ability to handle solitude would have been important for that. Hence, introversion evolved.

In any event, the strategies for one MGTOW may not work well for the strategies of another. You need to determine your own personality type to make a plan that fits you, and build a great life.

I’m bisexual on the intro-extro thing.

Not bisexual. Bi-troverted?

I enjoy solitude, whether that’s meditation, watching paint dry, going on single person adventures, being in public not talking to people, don’t need a ton of friends, etc.

However in gathering I can be the life of the party. The funny raconteur who can hold a group with jokes, stories, etc.

I can speaking in front of large groups or with people of higher social standing than I.

I don’t possess social anxiety like some people do.

But I can be in a bar with people all around and not have to talk or interact with anyone, I’m just enjoying the experience.

So bi-whatever that it.

More like it’s fun, but not necessary.

Works for me. I have no goals in life or bucket lists I need to fulfill.

I'm quite high on the introverted side.
That cabin in the Alaskan forest appeals to me.

I don't need any close human interaction; online (like this forum) is good enough, hence the "Hermit" part of my "name."
I've always dreaded going to any function with crowds, family or otherwise.
I can tolerate small gatherings with less than 8-10 people, but even that drains me.
Gotta have my solitude.

I work from spring 'til December and get the rest of the winter off,
and I don't leave the house except to get the few highly perishable grocery items I need,
otherwise, my freezers and both pantries are well stocked.

I live just outside of a small town on 20 acres of wooded bliss off a dead-end road,
and I really do live like a hermit. I love the peace and quiet here.
I'm only 2-5 miles from any store, shopping, restaurant, etc, so for convenience, I've got it pretty good too.

Seems like I'm a mix of Dang and Hermit above...love my isolated farm and only leave if I have to. Enjoy the "socialization" of social media. Don't mind going to rock concerts with 50K people - and can hold a room when needed. Small gatherings drain me as it's harder to blend in and just observe...

As to how introversion evolved, likely due to hunter/gatherer lifestyle...lots of solitude, some where better at it etc. Not sure, but interesting to ponder.

I’m definitely an introvert. I can do the socializing thing when necessary (at work, in class, etc), but having an entire weekend without seeing anyone or hanging out is just fine with me. I consider my introversion to definitely be a strength in terms of the MGTOW lifestyle. I don’t need to be out there, front and center, lapping for attention or validation from others.

Even before I red-pilled and still believed that finding a “good” woman was worth the effort, I never had a problem disengaging from others. A lot of guys are attention whores; some even worse than the women. I couldn’t care less if someone noticed me or not. The woman I was in a 10 year relationship with used to tell me all the time, “I wish you were more sociable.” She couldn’t stand that I didn’t walk around a room and kiss everyone’s ass (not literally) like she did. She was a people lover and appeaser.

Let’s take that cabin in Alaska and throw in a library full of books large enough to last the rest of my life. I’m sold. When do I move in?

My results from the Myers Briggs test is an ISTJ. And the IST metrics, I'm pretty close to the maximum. That, said, I'm more like Dangzagnut in that I can give presentations to groups, I'm usually pretty popular at work because I say some pretty funny and outlandish stuff. I do fine at parties but only if I know around 40% of the people there. That's an important statistic to me-I literally won't show up to a party by myself unless I can determine I'll know around that amount of people. Any less, I become a wall flower and I will slide out in the most stealth way possible.I know that the weakest part of my social interaction game is breaking the ice.

I just started a new job this week and the holiday party is on Friday. I've been told by at least 3 people that it's good face time with management. Do you think I'm going? Fuck no.
There will be another one next year. If I go this year, it will be an awkward, miserable affair and I'll do more damage to my career at this company than good.
Next year, I'll be comfortable, know a lot of people and can be the me that I want to present not a person drowning in desperation for someone to make an effort to talk to me.

It's a strategic risk but this ain't my first rodeo.

I guess I started out in life as an extrovert but slowly became introverted through my experiences with socially interacting with other people. I started to notice at a fairly young age that most people kind of annoyed me. The phoniness and posing during social gatherings is making the hair on the back of my neck raise up. Call me pompous but I think most people are kind of stupid. I mean, not mentally handicapped but just not that smart. They are loud and aggressive but most of the time they have no idea what they're talking about, on any subject really. When I'm in a social setting I sum the crowd up pretty fast and realize that what I really want is for it to be over so I can go back home and spend my time on something more meaningful.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-social by any means, I just see very fast what caliber the group I am in is. Therefore, I have very few but also very good friends whom I trust fully and who fully trust me. Everything else is just fluff as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by Chris007

I started to notice at a fairly young age that most people kind of annoyed me. The phoniness and posing during social gatherings is making the hair on the back of my neck raise up. Call me pompous but I think most people are kind of stupid. I mean, not mentally handicapped but just not that smart. They are loud and aggressive but most of the time they have no idea what they're talking about, on any subject really. When I'm in a social setting I sum the crowd up pretty fast and realize that what I really want is for it to be over so I can go back home and spend my time on something more meaningful.

Agreed 100% This is a perfect description of the collective brainpower (or lack thereof) of people in 2022. And it’s only getting worse. There’s that to look forward to…

Speaking of stupid - I found this very informative - Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity.

https://sproutsschools.com/bonhoeffers-theory-of-stupidity/

Not to over-analyze, but going your OWN way doesn't mean marching with a herd of men who complain about women.

Originally Posted by Joe Magarac

Not to over-analyze, but going your OWN way doesn't mean marching with a herd of men who complain about women.

I don't think anyone here is saying it's that. In fact, MGTOW is taking the first step in building a great life without worrying what women think. While women, of course, are not immune to criticism, a MGTOW's main focus is how to live well, now that he's past the time when he tried to get together with a woman. We won't all take identical actions. We won't all end up in a remote cabin, though some of us may.

I'm introverted. People can drain me, especially ones that talk a lot. I can function though, I go to work and deal with it and then come back to my bunker. If I ever won enough money that I never had to work again I would probably never speak to anyone ever again unless it was in a store.

I used to think I wanted a Sugar Baby but now I don't even care about brothel's. So I have lost interest in women even for sex. And I have never had a lot of guy friends. At the moment I don't have any and I am fine with that.

I always been a loner but there was a time I had/wanted friends. Not anymore. Friends just stab me in the back Remember that Styx's song "Too Much Time on my hands? The lyric that goes "I got dozens of friends and the fun never ends as long as I'm buying!" describes it to a T. When I stop providing they develop a hatred for me. I know this will get me in trouble but you guys know I'm very blunt. I often see MGTOWs saying "help a brother out" and the like. It's crap. Most men will turn on you and even kill you for no reason for a whiff. Just a whiff. I can't tell you how many times I had to fight other guys over some broad lying to them and playing damsel in distress. Other men will ALWAYS stand by the women unless she ends up wrecking him multiple times.


Nowadays I am by myself and don't bother with anyone unless I am at work and thats only when necessary. I don't relate to other people especially other guys. No I don't care about some whore you are banging, No I don't care about your soul sucking kids, No I don't care about your loose ass wife, No, I don't care some bum f**k team just signed another worthless overpaid dipshit who can't catch a ball , etc. I am happier, healthier, wiser, and richer by myself.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

Nowadays I am by myself and don't bother with anyone unless I am at work and thats only when necessary. I don't relate to other people especially other guys. No I don't care about some whore you are banging, No I don't care about your soul sucking kids, No I don't care about your loose ass wife, No, I don't care some bum f**k team just signed another worthless overpaid dipshit who can't catch a ball , etc. I am happier, healthier, wiser, and richer by myself.

I can relate to what you’re saying here. A lot of guys out there these days are just as bad as the women. A lot of guys walk around with their chest sticking out, like they have the biggest dick and the best to offer the world. They can be just as superficial and deceitful as any woman. They talk about the same shit all the time. They can tell you sports statistics dating back to the 60s and can tell you about last week’s UFC fight, but the dipshits couldn’t read a see-Spot-run book with proper grammar. No real depth to their personalities or interests. Just look as badass as possible and make sure every twat in the room knows you exist. What a legacy.

Being alone is the best kind of existence. I’ve learned to embrace my introversion and loner lifestyle over the years. There’s no greater feeling than being autonomous and not having to depend on other people. Half the time they will only disappoint you anyway.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

No real depth to their personalities or interests. Just look as badass as possible and make sure every twat in the room knows you exist. What a legacy.

I see those all over the place too. I call them MS 12, just short of the real deal and about as bright as a burnt out 20 watt light bulb.

I always thought a good strategy to meet someone is using hobby groups where your skills are needed by other people.
An example of this is playing in a band as a musician. People need singers, drummers and guitarists.

Another idea is to create a dominance hierarchy.

If you prefer the solitude life than obviously this will not apply to you.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

I can relate to what you’re saying here. A lot of guys out there these days are just as bad as the women. A lot of guys walk around with their chest sticking out, like they have the biggest dick and the best to offer the world. They can be just as superficial and deceitful as any woman. They talk about the same shit all the time. They can tell you sports statistics dating back to the 60s and can tell you about last week’s UFC fight, but the dipshits couldn’t read a see-Spot-run book with proper grammar. No real depth to their personalities or interests. Just look as badass as possible and make sure every twat in the room knows you exist. What a legacy.

Being alone is the best kind of existence. I’ve learned to embrace my introversion and loner lifestyle over the years. There’s no greater feeling than being autonomous and not having to depend on other people. Half the time they will only disappoint you anyway.

You have earned a reputation award from me. It's a very rare occasion when I am left speechless cause the post speaks 100% truth.

Originally Posted by ShogunRonin

I always thought a good strategy to meet someone is using hobby groups where your skills are needed by other people.
An example of this is playing in a band as a musician. People need singers, drummers and guitarists.

Another idea is to create a dominance hierarchy.

If you prefer the solitude life than obviously this will not apply to you.

I don't like the idea of egos clashing. Most people have a "dominant" personality. They are different but the same. One person(Type A) is the loud big mouth that screams and yells profanities while the other person talks over you(Type B). It's best to stick to yourself to avoid drama. I am the type that I'm the "IDGAF just leave me alone and out of it and things will be fine" type.

Originally Posted by Societysucksmyass

I can relate to what you’re saying here. A lot of guys out there these days are just as bad as the women. A lot of guys walk around with their chest sticking out, like they have the biggest dick and the best to offer the world. They can be just as superficial and deceitful as any woman. They talk about the same shit all the time. They can tell you sports statistics dating back to the 60s and can tell you about last week’s UFC fight, but the dipshits couldn’t read a see-Spot-run book with proper grammar. No real depth to their personalities or interests. Just look as badass as possible and make sure every twat in the room knows you exist. What a legacy.

Being alone is the best kind of existence. I’ve learned to embrace my introversion and loner lifestyle over the years. There’s no greater feeling than being autonomous and not having to depend on other people. Half the time they will only disappoint you anyway.

This is good and relevant wisdom. I think a person, whether a man or a woman, sees ego-inflating evidence, he often becomes full of himself (or herself). Imagine if you literally were a rock star, and at every concert there are numerous gorgeous women throwing themselves at you. Gene Simmons of Kiss admitted to fucking over 3,000 women. It would be tough for that shit to not go to your head. On a lesser scale, the college dude who plays quarterback for an elite school, and tons of women are always throwing themselves at him. Plus, he's young and doesn't understand much of the world. His ego would go through the roof. Maybe he comes to just expect that every woman wants him. Then in the rare case when he's in the heat of passion and a woman says "no" and resists trying to make him stop, maybe he just plows through. I'm not saying that's right. In fact, I would say that's fucked up that the asshole raped her. It just all started with his hugely inflated sense of worth since so many women wanted him. It works the same with women. When dudes hit on them all the time, and they have a zillion choices, they tend to devalue men. An awkward dude approaching such a woman is seen as just another pathetic schmoe, and she's unable to see that he's actually a valuable human being who may be smart or talented.

There's an epidemic of certain people being absurdly over-valued, and thus having the correspondingly inflated egos to go with it. It can result in extremely shitty behavior, and sometimes even criminal behavior. The feminists only have stupid, ineffective and insulting cliches like, "Teach men not to rape." The dude with the super-inflated ego's not going to listen to that. If he was lucky enough to grow up with good values, he would thus know never to force himself on anyone. If he didn't, if his values are fucked up, and if he has shit for empathy, then he could be one of those pieces of shit who rapes women. But going around saying crap like "Teach men not to rape" isn't going to stop a piece of crap like that. If he gets caught and has to do some time, he might catch on.

But I don't know what to do with the shit-brained women who get a job as a teacher and then rape some 13-year-old boy. They tend to never figure out that what they did was fucked up, even if they got caught.