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    I think these new protests are less about not being able to go in to pubs and restaurants but more about splitting things up in to a two tier society:
    Yeah, but its just too little too late. The people who are protesting, needed to do this and more, way way earlier. Its like becoming aware that government is a problem only when the tentacles are so deep up their arse that they are coming out of their mouths...
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Every man gives a fuck about the world. That truth is just buried under a lot of shit.
    When you say you don't give a fuck, that's really directed at everyone who's helped turn it into a degenerate shithole. Not the earth/mankind.
    What you do with that is ultimately up to you. But by hating on the world you are pleasing TPTB - just know that.

    Yes, this jab (it's not a vaccine) is the mark of the beast. Whether we succumb depends on whether enough men give a fuck about the world.
    Oh I do give a fuck about the world. I actually give a LOT of fuck. I just dont side with weak and stupid. They are a liability. Its they who made TPTB possible not me, so they are going to reap the benefits. That is how my god works, cant say about your god.

    And I dont like to interrupt my god.
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    Re: Delighted to be here

    The vax isn't the mark, it's just one of the conditioners to herd people in to the fold of obedience (a little more fire to start the slow boil).

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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Every man gives a fuck about the world. That truth is just buried under a lot of shit.
    When you say you don't give a fuck, that's really directed at everyone who's helped turn it into a degenerate shithole. Not the earth/mankind.
    What you do with that is ultimately up to you. But by hating on the world you are pleasing TPTB - just know that.
    I suppose you’re right when you say every man gives a fuck about the world, but I think maybe there’s a bit of crossed-purposes here.

    First when I say the world I’m not talking about the planet. The planet is doing just fine and IMO will continue to do so long after we (humanity) are long gone. I have no concerns there.

    So, from my POV that means when we say “the world”, we mean all the different societies it contains as what is happening today is affecting each and every one of us. In short, humanity.

    As for who helped turn it in to what it is, well, that’s pretty much everyone from TPTB right down to the average Joe on the street.

    TPTB are how we refer to the orchestrators of all this and don’t deserve any sympathy from any of us.

    The rest of humanity is mostly blue pilled and therefore IMO don’t give a shite about themselves, so why should I?

    However, if I truly didn’t give a fuck then I wouldn’t be here on this site, but that small amount of “giving a fuck” is lessening by the day.

    Why?

    Because the evidence is all around if only one wants to look, but there is always the hope of getting the information to a few before they make the biggest mistake of their life and it’s this hope, and swapping views with observant people, that keeps me coming back.

    As for hate – hate is a wasted emotion. Not only that, if one hates then that shows that they care very, very much!

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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Not giving a fuck is cool. It's freedom from responsibility.
    If this evil we're currently under does not prosper, it'll be because enough people gave a fuck about the world including mankind.
    If you were one of those cheering on the crashing and burning then you cannot really say you deserve to be part of a better world that may arise.
    There is some nuance here. Some things do need to crash and burn, including much of the system. Because they are riddled with corruption.
    But I cannot see how Not giving a fuck about humanity is anything other than punishment for perceived wrongs humanity inflicted on you.
    The way I see it now is there are a load of morons and disgusting people making this world a shit place. But I recognise myself as one of those who can change it, not being those things.
    I find purpose in doing this that I could not find in simply pleasing myself and sticking two fingers up at the world (with the caveat that I do stick my fingers up to the entire power structure).

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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    But I cannot see how Not giving a fuck about humanity is anything other than punishment for perceived wrongs humanity inflicted on you.
    Punishment? No. Maybe there are some that think this way, maybe many. To me humanity is what it is and I’ve long since given up on trying to even think of ways it may be made better.

    Hell, I’m not even sure what a better world means anymore, therefore I’ve adopted a NFG attitude totally devoid of passion towards humanity. Of course there are things that annoy me, but I don’t blame the whole of humanity for them.

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    people making this world a shit place. But I recognise myself as one of those who can change it
    Activism is not my way but I wish you well and the best of luck on your journeys.

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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Punishment? No. Maybe there are some that think this way, maybe many. To me humanity is what it is and I’ve long since given up on trying to even think of ways it may be made better.

    Hell, I’m not even sure what a better world means anymore, therefore I’ve adopted a NFG attitude totally devoid of passion towards humanity. Of course there are things that annoy me, but I don’t blame the whole of humanity for them.



    Activism is not my way but I wish you well and the best of luck on your journeys.
    I'm with Jack on this one, my "activism" is devoted entirely to self!

    I don't have time or inclination to waste on mutineers that insist on scuttling the ship at their own peril. I slipped out in the cover of darkness with one of the lifeboats, they don't even know I'm gone!

    My humanity ends at my driveway, beyond that it's a wasteland of corruption, deceit, ill will, and inhumanity, I stopped bullshitting myself a long time ago. We're on the part of the timeline where humanity goes straight to hell! The end days are upon us.
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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I'm with Jack on this one, my "activism" is devoted entirely to self!

    I don't have time or inclination to waste on mutineers that insist on scuttling the ship at their own peril. I slipped out in the cover of darkness with one of the lifeboats, they don't even know I'm gone!

    My humanity ends at my driveway, beyond that it's a wasteland of corruption, deceit, ill will, and inhumanity, I stopped bullshitting myself a long time ago. We're on the part of the timeline where humanity goes straight to hell! The end days are upon us.
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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Congratulations, you are a product of the powers that be.
    That is the problem, we are all a product of our times, and thus we bring these times to were we are .
    Yes, we might have a small difference of mentality in the 70's, 80's, and 90's, but what was that but a stepping-stone to today?

    Something was broken, and we are the byproduct of this broken world, some less broken than others, but broken anyway. Dr Edward Dutton, aka The Jolly Heretic is even more radical, as he speaks about mutants, genetic traits that would never survive outside this society.

    Let us be clear, it is not man that is supposed to define the desirable traits of man, but nature, evolution, God. We lack the necessary self-awareness, intelligence and ruthlessness.

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    Re: Delighted to be here

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Congratulations, you are a product of the powers that be.
    Thankyou, where's my merit badge? My metals? My rewards?

    Nice try...
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    You are doing great work for the cabal in turning inwards, away from the world at large. It's what they wanted.
    Medals? No need, you wear it for everyone to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    You are doing great work for the cabal in turning inwards, away from the world at large. It's what they wanted.
    Medals? No need, you wear it for everyone to see.
    That sir, is opposite of the truth and being not only antagonistic, but slanderous and degrading in nature. You stick to your methods of madness and I'll stick to mine, but note, I'm not attacking, degrading, or humiliating yours, I'm just pointing out that standing in the way of destiny is just as futile as standing in the way of a supernova!

    My inward battle has fortified my life against these same powers of darkness you advise being taken head on! Since 1997 I've been starving these creatures access to my life! I'm intangible to them, can't be reached, will not negotiate with tyrants for my god given rights!

    The masses have made their choice, let them lay in the beds of filth they refuse to rise from!

    Call me Lot, except I left my wife and daughters in Sodom and made the trek alone!

    Call me Adam, except I left my wife and family in the condemned garden of Eden she had a hand in creating, and again, I made the trek alone.

    If you want to run through the soul crushing stamp-mill of illusive and aberrational justice, be my guest, but I'll tell you from experience, justice is in the eye of the beholder and the furthest thing from molested law and tyrannical order.

    The last thing this world needs is another white knight, what it needs is a few more guys pushing it into the trash heap of eternity! I am already dead to this wayward and hopelessly lost society, ghosts are ghosts and we never go back!

    If everyone did what did and saw what I saw, the world as you know it would transform overnight. I'm a short circuit in the MATRIX where the powers of tyranny drive my arch light! I know the blinding truth and not afraid to SHINE IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    But I cannot see how Not giving a fuck about humanity is anything other than punishment for perceived wrongs humanity inflicted on you.
    For me, it was not me punishing the world but a resignation, a tacit acknowledgement of defeat, that after day after day of being misunderstood and mistreated (by whom, actually? My job? Individual people? Society? Everything that I took as serious but was actually stupid? All of it?) that I'd come home feeling abused as a man and estranged as a man, too. Then I'd get drunk, almost every night, thus continuing the abuse of myself. Punishing myself, not others, and in cooperation of was being done to me, looking back. Some kind of twist on the Stockholm syndrome where I validated my captors.

    How maladaptive is that? My way of turning the other cheek was killing me.

    Until I stopped and told God that he makes shitty people. Not proud that I said that, but that's what I said. In differentiating myself like that, I gave myself the credit I needed.

    I quit drinking cold turkey and decided I had had enough of giving leeway to the stupidity around me and that the thoughtless, selfish people were never going to grow up. My God, people in their thirties and forties and beyond remain as unevolved as the teenagers in high school. (I was one of them, in my drinking.) I was now going to speak up, say my mind, and let these others take a listen for a change. For a change. I quit drinking at age 36, and vowed that the next 36 are mine, motherfuckers. I am quoting myself here.

    So, I tell folks what's on my mind. I teach myself the articulation to express my thoughts and then call upon myself to express them. I'll talk about stuff that others tip-toe around. Their timidity is their learning curve. I'm tired of cooperating with it. I'm not trying to be edgy, cool, rude, or subversive, but am speaking up with what God gave me. My mind. I can be hilariously funny, given the moment, always a nice trait to have. IRL, I am told by people whom I trust and respect that I say things that no one else ever says. They mean it in the best sense, not that I am a kook but that I give them things to think about. There. That's my contribution to giving a fuck. In place of beer. And it feels great.

    Congratulations, you are a product of the powers that be.
    I believe I know the frame of mind from which you speak but may I kindly offer that everybody on this site is MGTOW and in our common declination of a "standard" life could your comment be actually recognizing (and repudiating) the common MGTOW element in ourselves to ghost, while expressing it in terms of just one member? Are you just advocating overt activism within MGTOW? That would be what they refer to as MRA, I think. Or can you mean a personal choice to speak up that does not interfere with being MGTOW, perhaps like the assertiveness that I explained in myself above?
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    The opposition hates us MGTOW because they fear us. Why? Because women use men for survival and when men are going away and living their own lives, it's hurts that female survival. That's just my theory.
    I agree, but I think it's gone beyond theory at this point.

    We will often see things like "MGTOW is hatred of women." And we think to ourselves, why is GYOW "hatred of women"?

    But you hit upon it. Every guy that goes his own way removes another wallet for them to leech off of. And that, according to some, is "hatred of women."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    For me, it was not me punishing the world but a resignation, a tacit acknowledgement of defeat, that after day after day of being misunderstood and mistreated (by whom, actually? My job? Individual people? Society? Everything that I took as serious but was actually stupid? All of it?) that I'd come home feeling abused as a man and estranged as a man, too. Then I'd get drunk, almost every night, thus continuing the abuse of myself. Punishing myself, not others, and in cooperation of was being done to me, looking back. Some kind of twist on the Stockholm syndrome where I validated my captors.

    How maladaptive is that? My way of turning the other cheek was killing me.

    Until I stopped and told God that he makes shitty people. Not proud that I said that, but that's what I said. In differentiating myself like that, I gave myself the credit I needed.

    I quit drinking cold turkey and decided I had had enough of giving leeway to the stupidity around me and that the thoughtless, selfish people were never going to grow up. My God, people in their thirties and forties and beyond remain as unevolved as the teenagers in high school. (I was one of them, in my drinking.) I was now going to speak up, say my mind, and let these others take a listen for a change. For a change. I quit drinking at age 36, and vowed that the next 36 are mine, motherfuckers. I am quoting myself here.

    So, I tell folks what's on my mind. I teach myself the articulation to express my thoughts and then call upon myself to express them. I'll talk about stuff that others tip-toe around. Their timidity is their learning curve. I'm tired of cooperating with it. I'm not trying to be edgy, cool, rude, or subversive, but am speaking up with what God gave me. My mind. I can be hilariously funny, given the moment, always a nice trait to have. IRL, I am told by people whom I trust and respect that I say things that no one else ever says. They mean it in the best sense, not that I am a kook but that I give them things to think about. There. That's my contribution to giving a fuck. In place of beer. And it feels great.



    I believe I know the frame of mind from which you speak but may I kindly offer that everybody on this site is MGTOW and in our common declination of a "standard" life could your comment be actually recognizing (and repudiating) the common MGTOW element in ourselves to ghost, while expressing it in terms of just one member? Are you just advocating overt activism within MGTOW? That would be what they refer to as MRA, I think. Or can you mean a personal choice to speak up that does not interfere with being MGTOW, perhaps like the assertiveness that I explained in myself above?
    Nice comment. It's a nice feeling indeed when people say stuff like that to you, I've also had it a number of times. So few people make others think, for the better.

    I see men stuck in ghost out of self defence, I know there's a way where 'self defence' isn't required. It's something akin to what you said about speaking up with what God gave you. There's nothing to fear or worry or be ashamed or embarrassed about. Not if you've advanced beyond your younger mindset (where we did things like drinking to cope with our own denial).

    I also see men withholding their love. What I am saying is it's not good to hold anything in. I guess I'm trying to shake men into following their heart, but how do you tell a hardened MGTOW that because it just sounds like cliched, blue pill nonsense?

    You get a response along the lines of "I gave my heart and it was trampled on, never again!". Well firstly I didn't say go give it to a woman, second, one can clearly see this attitude is a bitter one, and not good for the soul. And yes, it's also exactly what the people who engineered most of our problems, wanted you to feel. I'm not saying MGTOW are colluding with the enemy, but you'd have to admit it's an interesting thesis (the bit in bold).

    I was probably a bit disrespectful about it. For that I apologise.

    I'm not moving away from MGTOW. But I'd like MGTOW to evolve beyond pettiness, I guess.
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    Re: Delighted to be here

    happybachelor,

    I understand were you come from. It is your view that if good men lower their arms then evil wins.
    However, the label of "good men" that must "sacrifice" for society, is exactly the tool that brings us here. We recognize it for what it is, a tool of exploitation.

    You see two sides, when in reality you are presented with a false dichotomy. The real powers at be probably work with both sides: heads you lose, tails you lose. The only winning move is not to play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    happybachelor,

    I understand were you come from. It is your view that if good men lower their arms then evil wins.
    However, the label of "good men" that must "sacrifice" for society, is exactly the tool that brings us here. We recognize it for what it is, a tool of exploitation.

    You see two sides, when in reality you are presented with a false dichotomy. The real powers at be probably work with both sides: heads you lose, tails you lose. The only winning move is not to play...
    Our enemy is cultural, not by choice, by cultural aggression and transgression of our natural rights.

    Mass media, Big Tech, Corporate, and government all colluding together to win their agenda, that being the destruction of all we knew and held dear. With a unified monster of that size and epic proportion the only working strategy is that of a refugee and not engaging them whatsoever!

    I'm not anti social, I have close friends and even closer family, I made up my mind rock solid long ago that the risk outweighed the reward when it comes to commitment. If not being reprobate in my decisions is being locked in a groove, then I say the alternative is a mind that blow around with the wind always changing direction, and a life that follows. Not a good device when you're trying to weather a cultural storm. I don't hate and I don't hurt, that nightmare is reserved for the reprobates!
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Agree apart from the fact that man's happiness is partly derived from fighting for what's right....
    TFM said something profound on this issue, namely that "happiness is a byproduct of accomplishment." It may not have been an original insight on his part, but it was the first time I heard it.

    Pretty profound, and probably why so many are unhappy. If you search for happiness as a goal, then you're likely to (eventually) be disappointed.

    If you get happiness as a result of accomplishment, then that may be more enduring. In this view, happiness overlaps significantly with satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faramir View Post
    TFM said something profound on this issue, namely that "happiness is a byproduct of accomplishment." It may not have been an original insight on his part, but it was the first time I heard it.

    Pretty profound, and probably why so many are unhappy. If you search for happiness as a goal, then you're likely to (eventually) be disappointed.

    If you get happiness as a result of accomplishment, then that may be more enduring. In this view, happiness overlaps significantly with satisfaction.
    This. Women are happy from their own kind of action, men from theirs. When you act to help yourself and others, you tend to feel better. It's the intention that's crucial here, too many of us acted expected a return, and not receiving it, we withdrew entirely. When you give honestly from that heart, it's always returned. Karma never fails.

    Interestingly I've read of people going through horrendous shit and recalling they felt almost 'happy'. It makes sense, with the mind focused on a mission, especially for good, a lot of unnecessary mental crap falls away.
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