Thread: Dear MGTOW (from feminist women) We just want our free money back

This guy criticizes a woman's video, which is so wacko, I'm even wondering if it's satire. She even tries to insult MGTOW by calling us gay. I thought these woke types were against gay bashing. Gay is just a characteristic, and is no big deal. If some dude is gay, then he can just be gay. It's not worth getting upset over. And if someone calls you gay, it should not be of any more consequence than if they called you left-handed or Canadian. If some idiot said, "Hey, TigPlaze, you're a left-handed Canadian and an accountant." I would be like, "Okay ... I'm not sure what's up with that. I'm none of those things, but someone who is those things isn't doing anything wrong." Anyone, this stupid girl is probably one of the first ones who would throw a fit, saying you should never insult gay people, but she feels justified in doing so while attempting to degrade MGTOW men.

Then notice how many words she mispronounces. It's comical, and it's one reason why I wonder if this is actually satire. Later on, she actually calls men ATMs, and says men should be happy with that, and that women simply deserve our money. WTF? Maybe this actually is satire. I'm not sure. What do you think?

https://youtu.be/UqjSF3474O0

I think it's not a satire. She is really that entitled.

I've once heard a great cause for male-only spaces -" Why women shouldn't participate in discussions about men's issues? Because women suck out all of the objectivity from the room."

Rules of logic do not apply around women. They are all about emotional language. They prefer to make points so devoid of logic that it's nearly impossible to respond. That's the point. Upon realization of this, I've ceased any kind of discussion in such cases. The most valuable thing that MGTOW has taught me is that sometimes it's better not to take action.

Examples of such illogical statements from cathcuck groups I lurk on: (Note that all of aftermentioned points should be undisputable for any christian.)

1. I expect a virgin for marriage - "Yeah, what about horseriding? Do you know that some virgins are born without hymen?"
2. Abortion shouldn't be legal - "What about mothers die if they don't abort? What about children that die 3 days after being born? What if mother hates her children..."
3. Cheating or parental fraud = divorce (it's such an atracious act it's the only case in which Jesus allows to divorce) - "Think about the children. He must have done something atracious for her to warrant such an action. What about forgiveness?"


Now Ik that this kind of behaviour is well documented. Terms like "hamster wheel" and "anti-male shaming language" come to mind.
I think's it's just another handbook example to add to the pile.

In case of women it's necessary to disregard all words and look at the actions - that's another thing I've learned.

Now let's ask ourselves few questions: How men are depicted in TV? How men are treated in court? Who iniciates divorces and why?

This is how we are viewed by women as a collective. We are mindless means of production uncapable of living without a woman. We are household appliances to be thrown away upon breaking. We are expandable machines that don't feel anything.

Now - how can you not be gay if you live without women although being uncapable of living without women?
How can you not be ATM if even state believes you are?

She only said what others believe in more blatant way.
That's why keeping your distance is a valid course of action.

Classic "air-head", with a pool of shit at the base of her skull to draw from.

We make her life harder ---said the slave masters in the myths of their plantation on fire.

Men gave women the right to vote, thereafter women took much more than just the right to vote, and like an F-5 tornado they're not done taking until there's nothing but bedrock.

Not long ago, most women didn't work. Why? Because not long ago, most work often required life threatening/life shortening manual labor. Additionally, not long ago, men were shamed by women and their State Violence Proxy into becoming 'Providers & Protectors', which is Bitch Speak for 'Personal Disposable Financial Slave & Human Shield'. In those days, women found being a housewife a better deal, so they didn't balk. They were perfectly happy to let men suffer and die on their behalf, just as women are fine with men fighting and dying on women's behalf in war. In short, it the good ole days, men were being heavily exploited and marginalized by women and their State Pimps/Sugar Daddy/Violence Proxy.

But then, men made much of work mussed hair free and broken nail proof - a potentially better deal than being a housewife. At that point, given how selfish and stupid most women are, feminists convinced women that men were oppressing them. Women, being a self-serving, highly manipulative lot, bought into feminist's rhetoric and hyperbole. Then - something amazing happened. Unwittingly, thanks to the misandry feminists imbued within women, women got up off their fat asses, started educating themselves, started working, started paying taxes and started supporting themselves. Unwittingly, feminists managed to liberate men and enslave women.

Who says women are smarter than men? Obviously, they're dumb fucks. Never interrupt your enemy while they're hurting themselves. Now, men no longer have to support or oblige women. Now, men can live their lives completely free of women and mostly free of women's State Pimp/Violence Proxy. In the next draft, burn your draft card and demand that women fight and die for their own rights and freedom. If The State Pimps try to use you as human sacrifices on women's and The State Pimp's behalf, sue based on gender discrimination, human sacrifice and the propagation of outdated, barbaric gender stereotypes. Let the LGBTQs, feminists, BLM and ANTIFA fight for their own lives and privileges. Fuck them. FUCK THEM.

Once upon a time, a prince proposed to a princess. The princess refused and the prince lived happily ever after. The End.

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No Woman Is More Beautiful Than Your Freedom

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I deeply resonate with Mannsplainers message here but I think this freedom is only temporary. We might enjoy it for a generation or two but the endgame of this transition is the enslavement of all humans to "the matrix" or the machine. In order for the machine to obtain optimum functioning it needs all humans reduced to technological slavery. We might be step ahead here but how do we avoid the endgame? We already see that most people are little more than adjuncts to social media machines. They might as well be just bots themselves.

She keeps slandering the MGTOW community as a "gay community," which is absolute nonsense. As far as I'm concerned, that disqualifies from serious consideration anything further she has to say.

Moreover, I think she knows that the "gay" accusation is a lie. But if she says it enough times, she'll convince herself the lie is actually true. That relieves her of having to confront the fact that more and more men are avoiding intimate relationships with modern women not because those men are gay (total fiction), but because those men see modern women for the degenerates they've become: nuisances and burdens, if not downright threats to their existence.

If anything, that video demonstrates how nervous these women have become about their LTR prospects. But, instead of dealing with the root causes, this woman starts out with false accusations and progresses on to blame deflection. Brilliant.

Originally Posted by pool-boy

I deeply resonate with Mannsplainers message here but I think this freedom is only temporary. We might enjoy it for a generation or two but the endgame of this transition is the enslavement of all humans to "the matrix" or the machine. In order for the machine to obtain optimum functioning it needs all humans reduced to technological slavery. We might be step ahead here but how do we avoid the endgame? We already see that most people are little more than adjuncts to social media machines. They might as well be just bots themselves.

In addition, we're all already slaves to CommieGloboCorp, who works tirelessly to impoverish and diminish us, relentlessly switching labor pools to the most vulnerable and powerless slave labor available globally.

CommieMSM and CommieSocialMedia, who's owned by CommieGloboCorp, works endlessly against us as CommieGloboCorp's Junta and Stasi. CommieUsOligarchy owns them all.

Socialism, when you think about it, is how the unproductive enslave the productive. Socialism is the state using hate to gain power and then using that power to force ill gotten wealth transfers from one set of voters to another. What's more - the state doesn't work for us. It works for CommieGloboCorp, who's owned by the CommieUsOligarchy, who uses CommieMSM and CommieSocialMedia as their Junta and Stasi.

Women and privileged, powerful men - aka the state pimps/violence proxy - aka male politicians - use their exploitative, symbiotic relationship to enslave, exploit and dispose of common men.

Slavery isn't dead - it just shape shifted and changed hands/features. Mass enslavement happens every day. The slavers obfuscated their misdeeds and made them appear righteous, through the hidden curses we call chivalry, courtly love and gynocentrism, all of which are used, together with shaming tactitcs, to uphold and enforce male disposability and male exploitation.

Everything you think you know is one gigantic deception. All of it. Women and their state pimps want the common man weak, powerless, ignorant, obsequious, voiceless, easily exploitable and easily disposable.

The only winning move is not to play. Don't willingly give them power over your finances and life.

Go MGTOW

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Originally Posted by MannSplainer

In addition, we're all already slaves to CommieGloboCorp, who works tirelessly to impoverish and diminish us, relentlessly switching labor pools to the most vulnerable and powerless slave labor available globally.

CommieMSM and CommieSocialMedia, who's owned by CommieGloboCorp, works endlessly against us as CommieGloboCorp's Junta and Stasi. CommieUsOligarchy owns them all.

Socialism, when you think about it, is how the unproductive enslave the productive. Socialism is the state using hate to gain power and then using that power to force ill gotten wealth transfers from one set of voters to another. What's more - the state doesn't work for us. It works for CommieGloboCorp, who's owned by the CommieUsOligarchy, who uses CommieMSM and CommieSocialMedia as their Junta and Stasi.

Women and privileged, powerful men - aka the state pimps/violence proxy - aka male politicians - use their exploitative, symbiotic relationship to enslave, exploit and dispose of common men.

Slavery isn't dead - it just shape shifted and changed hands/features. Mass enslavement happens every day. The slavers obfuscated their misdeeds and made them appear righteous, through the hidden curses we call chivalry, courtly love and gynocentrism, all of which are used, together with shaming tactitcs, to uphold and enforce male disposability and male exploitation.

Everything you think you know is one gigantic deception. All of it. Women and their state pimps want the common man weak, powerless, ignorant, obsequious, voiceless, easily exploitable and easily disposable.

The only winning move is not to play. Don't willingly give them power over your finances and life.

Go MGTOW

Don't Tolerate Bitch Speak

Disobey The Bitch Collective & Their State Pimps

But here's the real kicker. Here's what's carefully hidden beneath the surface of all we write. Here's what's really going on.

Wars are about resources and who's going to wield 'em. But governments can't say that, so they instead wrap war in patriotism, chivalry, courtly love and gynocentrism. That's why I won't watch the new Top Gun. When I was young, I didn't understand the realities of patriotism. I didn't understand the foundations and underpinnings. Now that I'm older and wiser, I get it. What lies beneath patriotism isn't good. It's just more shaming language and social conditioning.

Why do powerful men (and powerful women) use women to control and exploit common men? That's simple. Powerful, wealthy men (and women) need as many wage slaves, tax slaves and war human shields and human sacrifices as they can get. How else can they maintain their power and privilege? They have to pit the masses against one another to effectively exploit 'em. Women will never be drafted in the sense that men are. Women will eventually be drafted, but only to ensure more men can be moved to the front line as cannon fodder. When the war begins, women anywhere near combat will 'fall pregnant' and exit, just as they did in the Gulf War.

The war in Ukraine isn't about justice and freedom. It's about what's buried beneath the Ukrainian soil, which amounts to trillions upon trillions in wealth. It's about maintaining the petrodollar and US unipolar world power. The world's oligarchy is now fighting over said resources - and they're disposing of Ukrainian men's lives for that purpose.

The irony is that the CommieUsOligarchy created the twin monsters, China and Russia, that now threaten their global hegemony. CommieUsOligarchy is now dancing with global nuclear annihilation as a result. But you won't be told this. You'll instead be told to stand up for Queen & Country and to sacrifice your life for their power and privilege. Both Biden and Trump got multiple deferments to keep themselves alive during the Vietnam war. How they live with themselves I do not know. Both are completely willing to send common men to their deaths to maintain their own power and privilege.

That's why powerful nations now have vast violence proxies (the military) and nuclear weapons (the big stick). They use said entities in the hopes of controlling other nations to gain power and wealth for themselves. Women use the state as their violence proxy in the same vein - to maintain power and control over men - so they can exploit and dispose of men.

But here's the really painful part. If we weren't doing it, someone else would. That's the tragedy of exploitation. If you don't do them first, they'll do you and then burn you alive. Don't be naive. In the end, this is what lies beneath it all.

MannSplainer
You are my fav member here. My mind is highly in sync with yours. Some member still have a bit of the tradcon in them, but you alone, are pure "radical" MGTOW.

Originally Posted by mgtow2021

MannSplainer
You are my fav member here. My mind is highly in sync with yours. Some member still have a bit of the tradcon in them, but you alone, are pure "radical" MGTOW.

During my Blue Pill Days, the TRACON was strong in me. I was the quintessential white knight and captain-save-a-ho. Nobody was more ignorant or naive than me. But then reality smacked me upside the head, forcing me to change. The only constant in life is change. Until it completely destroys your life, ignorance is sweet, tender, succulent and juicy bliss.

One stalked me with a gun. Another hit me with a false accusation that, had it been leveled today instead of 30 years ago, would certainly have destroyed my life. The last one damn near destroyed me through divorce. That last one was the straw that broke the TRADCON spell. I finally realized that if I didn't change, I was done for. So I searched for a new path.

Following that, the cognitive dissonance became a real problem. I began to struggle with my newly found Red Pill/TRADCON dichotomy. And then, as if on queue, came MGTOW. Then, my whole world turned upside down. I could no longer see through the rose colored glasses, which were cracked beyond repair. There's no going back post Red Pill. Thanks to MGTOW, I know too much. I've eaten from the tree of forbidden knowledge.

But then, after the first reality domino fell, they all started to tumble. I began to see the truth buried beneath the many deceptions, half-truths, manipulations, shaming and social conditioning tactics used by every society throughout history.

Chivalry + Courtly Love + Gynocentrism = Male Disposability

Women Not Marrying! Men Too Broke!

I understand the TRADCON psychosphere, to wit: This is the only way our civilization can survive. Men must be the Provider's & Protectors, dominate women and fight the wars. Women must care for and submit to their men and the home so that children grow up healthy, strong and carry on our civilization. Religion must be a part of it all because religion determines acceptable and unacceptable behavior, rules with which all must adhere.

But TRADCON can't stand. Because of things like feminism, which cherry picks history to create a perpetual victim narrative, flagrantly rewriting history to cast men as oppressors rather than the target of women's exploitation, TRADCON must fall.

But then what's left? Well, it's what we have today. A falling marriage and birth rate, complete with demographic suicide. Democrats are now using this opportunity to exploit and marginalize white males. Once they're done with white males, they'll finish off white women. Right now however, they need white women to do away with white men, so they're struggling to keep white women in their marxi/soci/commie fold. They gain power by pitting us against one another - and power means wealth and control.

And where does that leave men, particularly white men? We're now forced to see women as the enemy they've unmistakably become. As it leaves men naked to total ruination, marriage is a non-starter, hence The Red Pill and MGTOW and the desperate attempts to ban/censor the same.

Where will it all lead? WWIII at worst and likely civil war at best.

Fascinating stuff. I'm just glad I won't die a complete moron. I'm also glad that I'll be able to live the rest of my life free of women's power and control, manifested through their state pimps/violence proxy.

For now, MGTOW is the only escape. The only alternative is to roll the dice with your life, which is something I'm personally not willing to do.

I couldn't watch beyond 5:22, because I've had enough of an overexposed woman, who is ugly, talk about me and my guys the way she did. She's also stupid; she thinks the "G" in MGTOW means "gay" when it means "going." Anytime a woman talks shit the way she does about me, she better have facts to back herself up and be ready for debate. She even makes false accusations about us: typical female. Can't handle the truth, so she attacks us with bullshit lies.

I think she's upset at both MGTOW and gay guys because she feels threatened by the true fact that we want nothing to do with her and not give her anything she desires.

I won't watch beyond what I already saw in the video, because she not a big enough deal to me. She ain't even good looking and she's full of shit!

Originally Posted by mgtow2021

MannSplainer
You are my fav member here. My mind is highly in sync with yours. Some member still have a bit of the tradcon in them, but you alone, are pure "radical" MGTOW.

That is BS. Most guys here would not be here if they truly desired to be hitched to a female.

If women are supposedly so strong and independent then why do they care what others are doing? It's simple. Women are boosted up by men. Too many men leave then she is on the ground crying. I have no remorse , compassion, or SIMPathy for women anymore. After all the pain they caused me then I stay far away from them. Let them go whine on their onlyfans accounts about it.

That bullshit of calling someone gay is boring. So what if someone is gay? Are you just upset that you can't manipulate them to be ATMs and emotional tampons for you? I think so. The older I get the more I see any sexuality that doesn't deal with women as a blessing from God. I honestly hate being heterosexual.