Thread: Dear Adam Silver (NBA Commissioner)

I've seen your "Lean In Together" ads.




The ads depict men, very wealthy men, promising to support women in the office and at home. The average NBA fan is a young man (45% of its fans are under 35). These men -- your fans, your customers -- are the reason you and all the athletes have jobs. Unlike Steph Curry and LeBron James (who earned $72M in 2014), and yourself, they are not wealthy. Some are struggling. And they wonder what campaign you have to support them? It's one thing that the NBA puts on a show in the local communities for the impoverished but this affects a small number and are typically photo-ops. Men are scratching their heads wondering -- we are the ones buying tickets to the game, we buy your merchandise, we watch the games on TV -- and where is your support for us? Instead, you are imposing a divisive pitch against your audience. It raises the question that if an organization can get away with this level of contempt for its customers then perhaps its because there are no other good options. It suggests your monopoly status over professional basketball is due for a review in the Capitol.

If anything your ads should be about humanitarianism and true equality for all- men supporting women and vice versa. Instead, you've chosen to insinuate that the very men who put the NBA in business, your fans, are actually persecuting women and somehow standing in their way. That the behavior of these men is what is keeping women from achieving their potential in the workplace, and shouldering women with unfair obligations around the home. If not, why would they need to do more in the workplace, or in the home? You've chosen to undercut your primary audience and run an advertising campaign that pits men against women, by handing over access to "your" audience to the biased perspective of a radical feminist.

David Stern may have been controversial for other reasons, but he was too shrewd to come under the spell of ideologies that are hostile to the fanbase; that abuse the goodwill of the viewing audience, and guilt-trip innocent men. Your support of "Lean In Together" raises questions about your judgment and your respect for the NBA fan base.

Feminism has reared it's ugly head into the game I've loved ever since I was 18 months when I was shooting on nerf hoops.

Help women aim high? This society has been doing that for 5 decades. They are in the workplace taking on the role of "strong independent career women who don't need men". Isn't that enough? They already have the encouragement of everyone around them. They have a society that's built for them so they can win in any category whether it be at home, the workplace or divorce court. What women really need to hear is:

"Stop being so selfish and understand the world doesn't revolve around you. Men have interests as well and they are walking away because they are sick of being taken for granted."

Ever since they aired that "men need to work more around the house" commercial my attention span for basketball has really dipped. That was a giant "fuck you. You're not doing enough" to the men who bust their ass as bread winners so they can provide for their children and unappreciative mothers. When a man comes home from a long shift, he doesn't want to worry about helping around the house because the misses should have that covered. No man wants to hear "I need help with this and I need help with that." Where's the benefit for us if we were to take on such a relationship? It's 90/10 and that ain't how a relationship should work. The goal is to find an alternative because a relationship should be 50/50.

Ladies, you already have it all. Can you please stop demanding more?

Gee, more conclusive proof women are weak, incapable babies that need to be mollycoddled every second of the day.

I'll add here that this seems to be creating a general trend across the basketball universe to promote women at any cost. I heard the most annoying commentator this morning watching the Wizards vs. Raptors playoffs game on ESPN. This twat was doing the color commentary - had this obnoxious whining voice, and just kept running her mouth the whole time. No sense of the moment. No knowing when to stay quiet and let the game speak for itself. Even the male announcer seemed put off by her blathering. I turned the game off it was so aggravating.

We've had the addition of female refs and a female asst. coach on the Spurs. How much of this are genuinely the best people getting hired versus the NBA and the ecosystem around it aligning as much as it can around its feminist agenda, is anyone's guess.

HeforShe, Lean In (aka men help us!), etc

It is simply a confirmation that women agenda groups can not continue to exist if the oxygen is sucked out of the room. The young men are simply not biting and they are retreating to the four dark corners of the world away from an epicenter that is cratered out and hollowed out by the social justice warriors.

But there is hope in that these men can grow stronger and be wiser being away from this slow motion train wreck. And when it comes crashing down they will be expected to restore, order, justice and civilization.

The year 2015 and nothing has changed all that much in human history.

Wealthy men tend to all be card-carrying feminists, because it supports dual-income families that are the backbone of state capitalism.

It's all about money, getting women working to provide taxes, consumption and labor for the economic machine.

Has nothing to do with "helping" women, more like shaming them for not "leaning in" and getting a job.

This in turn creates hypergamy and a hyper-competative environment that makes it tough for average people, spiritually and culturally.

Originally Posted by Isaiah4:1

Gee, more conclusive proof women are weak, incapable babies that need to be mollycoddled every second of the day.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Why is this shit necessary if women are so "strong and independent"? Why do they need giant media campaigns at every turn to get everyone's attention? And that's just it - attention whoring. The monetary aspect is obvious - promote the hip agenda - make more money. It's just so aggravating. It'd odd because they clearly aren't going to win over the female demographic anyway - if women are watching pro sports, it's because they're watching it with men, who are the ones that are primarily interested in the actual gameplay and details. I.e. no woman is going to a bar to watch the big game like a man would if he's by himself but wants some entertainment. That just doesn't happen with women period.

I don't follow pro sports but I enjoy watching games with male friends and family, and I hate when bullshit like this gets thrown in my face. Superbowl advertising is the most blatant example - the "like a girl" campaign had me dumfounded this year. I'm also reading Jagr's post below while I'm typing this reply and I have to agree that female commentary in sports is absolutely pointless. There's a reason why men need to do commentary for sports - they don't throw in a bunch of fluff - they get straight to the point immediately and give you the bare information that you need to know.

Even though prostate cancer is to men what breast cancer is to women, a brown shirt or brown shirt just does not sell as well.

Oh, and Jagr, I do appreciate you watching my Washington Bullets (they were literally called that half of my 41 years on this planet)... Come on Ted Leonis, former owner Abe Polin's (RIP) wife had given you the permission and all but hinted you should change the name back

C'mon Ted. You've already gone old school with the uniforms. Change the effing name back, dude

Okay, getting back to Jagr's excellent observation that this gender Marxism with reporters and and announcers and refs and all, you do not even have to go into the manosphere to hear male sports pundits on sports radio AM saying, "stop trying to force the damn WNBA down our throats. We are NOT interested!"

Originally Posted by jagrmeister

It's one thing that the NBA puts on a show in the local communities for the impoverished but this affects a small number and are typically photo-ops.

Im not sure if "NBA Cares" is a bigger farce than "Lean In" but its close. Im involved in an organization and at first I thought the HEAT was supporting us because they actually care about improving our community. It very quickly became apparent that they were only interested in some cheap PR publicity, not because they really care.

thanks for letting me know about this. this is bizzare. i have thought that sports moving to promote and target women audience are doing it for the greater share of wealth women have, but it seems kind of irrational. maybe sports is going through some really hard times. maybe their goal is to foster a dating or relationship environment for their sport to get more fans.

i believe that many sports don't have a community environment like soccer does. recently i read that USA soccer has more attendence than basketball and hockey. (baseball and football still ahead)

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Originally Posted by Da Patriarch

Where's the benefit for us if we were to take on such a relationship? It's 90/10 and that ain't how a relationship should work. The goal is to find an alternative because a relationship should be 50/50.

Ladies, you already have it all. Can you stop demanding more?

Give an inch and they'll take a mile. I've learned the hard way in one relationship especially. Once you show your lapdog collar you are dead meat.

Giving in too much to your woman is failing a shit test, you could say. The same applies to that commercial being criticized in this thread. That commercial if taken too literally is the making of a mangina, you could say.

That commercial is just a publicity stunt to me anyway.

Meh. Just another reason not to watch TV.

Most TV and movies are junk. The commercials between shows are even worse.

I never understood people's obsessions with professional athletes and other type of celebrities.

I like Basketball. I enjoy watching the games when I do watch them (about 1-3x a year). I keep the scores of my favorite teams in my phone so I know who won. I know enough about the players on my team to know their skills, but beyond that I couldn't care less.
I don't care about their life, I don't care what they do, I don't care if they drink Sprite or Pepsi or play Basketball in a commercial with a bunch of inner city 10 year olds.
I don't know why people care about this stuff.

I like movies. I like certain actors and actresses in movies for their talent. I respect that they do a good job. I don't care about who they marry, sleep with, where they live, what they did, what their kids are doing, or whatever.
Seeing celebrities in commercials endorsing crap is .. Just insulting.

The same goes for musicians and all other forms of entertainment that makes people into celebrities.

I just don't know why people care so much. But obviously they do, since celebrities get paid for commercials, there's 10 different kinds of tabloid newspapers/magazines/TV shows, etc.

Pretty sick, imho.

If no one cared about celebrities lives, we probably wouldn't have commercials like the one in the OP. Just sayin.

LeanInward

MeforMe


Women are independent and empowered. Fuck 'em, they're on their own.

P.S. This bullshit doesn't happen in the NHL.

Originally Posted by Cap285

LeanInward

MeforMe


Women are independent and empowered. Fuck 'em, they're on their own.

P.S. This bullshit doesn't happen in the NHL.

This is true. Good luck to your hawks. Can't wait to face y'all tomorrow, cap.

Originally Posted by Da Patriarch

This is true. Good luck to your hawks. Can't wait to face y'all tomorrow, cap.

3/10s of a second separtated my Wiz from overtime. Gortat being out with food poisoning really hurt my team. But, hell, the Hawks won over 60 games. So I've gotta give credit where it is due.

Oh well, maybe Kevin Durant will come back home to DC in 2016 when his contract is up.

Originally Posted by Ace Francis

3/10s of a second separtated my Wiz from overtime. Gortat being out with food poisoning really hurt my team. But, hell, the Hawks won over 60 games. So I've gotta give credit where it is due.

Oh well, maybe Kevin Durant will come back home to DC in 2016 when his contract is up.

Haha Ace. I was talking about hockey but that was a crazy finish. It didn't matter if it didn't count. Paul Pierce is still unbelievable. A lot of great series this post-season.

Originally Posted by Da Patriarch

Haha Ace. I was talking about hockey but that was a crazy finish. It didn't matter if it didn't count. Paul Pierce is still unbelievable. A lot of great series this post-season.

Please don't mention hockey to me for a few months. My Capitals choked yet again a few days ago. Well, at least they'll be the NHL golf champs of May once again.

As for Paul Pierce, I do hope he returns to the team next season. He is contemplating retirement.

Originally Posted by Ace Francis

Please don't mention hockey to me for a few months. My Capitals choked yet again a few days ago. Well, at least they'll be the NHL golf champs of May once again.

As for Paul Pierce, I do hope he returns to the team next season. He is contemplating retirement.

Least your team didn't get lit up by s back up point guard. That dude from the cavs really let my bulls have it.

Same here. He was one of my favorite growing up. Ill never forget this.

Originally Posted by Da Patriarch

This is true. Good luck to your hawks. Can't wait to face y'all tomorrow, cap.

Ducks fan? Almost time....

Originally Posted by Ace Francis

Please don't mention hockey to me for a few months. My Capitals choked yet again a few days ago. Well, at least they'll be the NHL golf champs of May once again.

As for Paul Pierce, I do hope he returns to the team next season. He is contemplating retirement.

I watched game 7. Sorry about that. Some nasty hits in that game.