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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

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    The problem is the image is just false propaganda.
    And elaborating this sentence...

    Women believe in form over content, a kind of "cargo religion" were attaching a liana to a box makes it a refrigerator. But they are no refrigerators, despite being cold blooded creatures.
    It is typical of creatures that survive in social settings, by manipulations and emotional/contractual bounds. They thrive in theatre: acting and wardrobe.

    Men on the other hand operate in the real world that requires actually doing things that work.

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    And elaborating this sentence...

    Women believe in form over content, a kind of "cargo religion" were attaching a liana to a box makes it a refrigerator. But they are no refrigerators, despite being cold blooded creatures.
    It is typical of creatures that survive in social settings, by manipulations and emotional/contractual bounds. They thrive in theatre: acting and wardrobe.

    Men on the other hand operate in the real world that requires actually doing things that work.
    This is also the reason that a lot of young women cosplay: aside from wearing the costumes and using their looks to promote feminism, they like the illusion of superiority that wearing a police/military/warrior/superheroine costume gives them.

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    I like a strong, independent women who is opinionated. But I also like her to be submissive at times.

    The issue is many modern women now only feel good about themselves if they are dominating men. No one likes to be dominated 100% of the time, whether in sex, conversation, work or whatever activity.

    There are very few women who maintain an independent, yet opinionated and sexually liberated frame of mind throughout their life. Those women are nice, and I have met some. They are sexually free, optimistic, take good care of their health even into their 40s/50s.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I like a strong, independent women who is opinionated. But I also like her to be submissive at times.
    You know, my illusion was that couples would talk, express their ideas, see both viewpoints and agree in the one with most merit.
    Being a strong independent woman in this setting is almost the same as being a frightened dependent woman, their opinions get to be listened and we would agree with the best idea.
    Unfortunately a frightened woman would have ideas dominated by fears, and the only ideas of a dependent women is how the man must solve the issue.
    Therefore a strong independent woman would be great! No longer we would have discussions based on fears and everything depending on the man...

    That was what I was sold, the idea of a partnership of equal responsibility and mutual respect.

    BUT (insert relevant image from redonkulus), women believe that being strong is having THEIR WAY ALWAYS, and being independent is GETTING A NEW MAN if necessary!

    That leaves us worst than before, they are scared, opinionated and entitled, that believe any compromise to be abusive behavior. And if you disagree you can be replaced.

    The reality of relationships is that men end up being dominated, bending to women's opinions and decisions, and their own ideas and opinions being scorned and openly scalded.

    What about that respect thing I was sold? Yea, they demand you to RESPECT THEM, or else...
    Exactly the kind of thing men thought we should avoid, that what we get in return.

    I was sold a lot of bullshit. We were sold a lot of bullshit. We lost track of what is real and embarked in idealistic fantasies.

    Even the most brainwashed blue pill cuckoo that desires to be dominated will eventually realize that it means YOU ARE SHIT. It is not the sensual fantasy of trusting a loving partner, it is a simple power assertion based on humiliation, contempt and self-serving interests.

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I like a strong, independent women who is opinionated. But I also like her to be submissive at times.

    The issue is many modern women now only feel good about themselves if they are dominating men. No one likes to be dominated 100% of the time, whether in sex, conversation, work or whatever activity.

    There are very few women who maintain an independent, yet opinionated and sexually liberated frame of mind throughout their life. Those women are nice, and I have met some. They are sexually free, optimistic, take good care of their health even into their 40s/50s.
    I'm glad you found some way to like them or some kind of positive side, I'll tell you what, you can have mine! I don't see any benefit in bothering with them, just wasted time, wasted resources, and wasted effort, for what?

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I'm glad you found some way to like them or some kind of positive side, I'll tell you what, you can have mine! I don't see any benefit in bothering with them, just wasted time, wasted resources, and wasted effort, for what?
    Exactly ! A strong, independent, whatever woman can pick her backside up and take it outta my lawn. If I really need solid opinions or help with finding real solutions to real problems, I have male friends who in terms of the quality of their opinion will run circles around the strongest most independent women I have ever seen. So yeah, the strong independent women, actually any woman can simply f off.
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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    I once had a fling with a woman of the class Opaque speaks. The sex was crazy wild for several months. Then, out of the blue, just as we were finished doing the wild horizontal mamba. She blurted out. "I want to be your dominatrix." I asked her if she were serious followed by, "Yes, you'll be my slave forever.".

    I told her I don't play that shit then simply summoned my inner John Wayne and headed into the setting Sun. I think some weaker men get snared by cunt and cannot escape these harpies. She stalked for a few weeks then moved on to her next. Women generally aren't used to being dropped like a hot rock.
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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Exactly ! A strong, independent, whatever woman can pick her backside up and take it outta my lawn.
    I want to clarify.

    When I say strong and independent, I do not mean the below:

    Career orientated, but when the bill comes, she wants a man to be a 'gentleman'.
    Only wants to dominate men sexually. She dominates sometimes, with boundaries, and allows a man to dominate, with boundaries.
    Has extreme ideological views, and is rebellious in every way, without direction or life purpose.
    Irresponsible, uncaring and unsympathetic to others, especially men who are victimised, e.g when men who are falsely accused.

    I come from the Middle East. Women here have no confidence and aren't sexual at all. The man has to lead, always!

    And it is nice to be with a liberated western women, who takes the lead. it is fucking annoying to have to keep initiating conversations, sexual advances, and so forth just because I am a man.

    And no I don't have confidence issues, I just don't like doing all the fucking work when I just want to have a one night stand or a fling.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself.

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I want to clarify.

    When I say strong and independent, I do not mean the below:

    Career orientated, but when the bill comes, she wants a man to be a 'gentleman'.
    Only wants to dominate men sexually. She dominates sometimes, with boundaries, and allows a man to dominate, with boundaries.
    Has extreme ideological views, and is rebellious in every way, without direction or life purpose.
    Irresponsible, uncaring and unsympathetic to others, especially men who are victimised, e.g when men who are falsely accused.

    I come from the Middle East. Women here have no confidence and aren't sexual at all. The man has to lead, always!

    And it is nice to be with a liberated western women, who takes the lead. it is fucking annoying to have to keep initiating conversations, sexual advances, and so forth just because I am a man.

    And no I don't have confidence issues, I just don't like doing all the fucking work when I just want to have a one night stand or a fling.
    What some men dream (a submissive and obedient woman) other men dread.
    Men dont know what they want? Are they always unhappy?

    I can solve this riddle with something I found out about myself: behind all the bullshit I had going with sex the real issue was emotional, it was all related to a woman loving me and showing it physically.

    When you have a woman doing "deadfish sex", can you see any demonstration of love? When you have a dominatrix that only craves power over you and humiliates you, it that love?

    What about a woman that wants you, expresses these feelings through actions, through the body, hers and yours, that wants to make you happy? Wouldn't you want to make her happy also?

    You know what I am taking about. Most men had it once or for some time with a new girlfriend. But it ends quickly then women fall out of love for men, and start the manipulations, the use/abuse, the craziness, or simply the most hurtful thing: the neglect.

    Men are consistent, steadfast and will uphold their end of the bargain. Women are fickle, and will not fulfil their promises. They will conveniently lose love, respect and scrupulous, so that they can control a man to their advantage.

    It is said that women marry a man hopping to change him, while men marry a woman hopping she doesn't change.

    Love is what men want, that is THE ONLY THING MEN WANT. Yet it is the hopelessly romantic male gender that is constantly accused of being callous and selfish, only thinking about sex.

    The fickle and pragmatic female gender is the one said to be the romantic one...

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    And it is nice to be with a liberated western women, who takes the lead. it is fucking annoying to have to keep initiating conversations, sexual advances, and so forth just because I am a man.

    And no I don't have confidence issues, I just don't like doing all the fucking work when I just want to have a one night stand or a fling.
    I get your point. I've been in conversations with such women, where it will go only as long as I can find something to talk about. I was a kid at that time, much less aggressive in diplomatic terms.

    But nowadays, I practice scorched earth ghosting, as opposed to camouflage ghosting. Zero interaction with blue pill and zero tolerance to blue pill. And purple pill ppl around me, they better not talk blue when talking to me or else they will be in for a very very bitter argument, which I kindda enjoy in sadistic sense. I have lost several purple pilled friends last couple of years, just because they cannot withstand talking to me, and its good riddance.

    So yeah, I cannot have a fling. Combine my tendency to be aggressive (again, not physical but diplomatic aggression) if I perceive blue pill and have no incentive or pressing need to maintain niceness, along with my extremely radical viewpoints, most of which are quite controversial even for this forum, and there you have a recipe of a failed fling before it even starts.
    A clever fighter not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. His victories bring him neither reputation for wisdom, nor credit for courage. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

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    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: Why are men so cucked that they fantasize or actually submit to a dominatrix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    What some men dream (a submissive and obedient woman) other men dread.
    Men dont know what they want? Are they always unhappy?

    I can solve this riddle with something I found out about myself: behind all the bullshit I had going with sex the real issue was emotional, it was all related to a woman loving me and showing it physically.

    When you have a woman doing "deadfish sex", can you see any demonstration of love? When you have a dominatrix that only craves power over you and humiliates you, it that love?

    What about a woman that wants you, expresses these feelings through actions, through the body, hers and yours, that wants to make you happy? Wouldn't you want to make her happy also?

    You know what I am taking about. Most men had it once or for some time with a new girlfriend. But it ends quickly then women fall out of love for men, and start the manipulations, the use/abuse, the craziness, or simply the most hurtful thing: the neglect.

    Men are consistent, steadfast and will uphold their end of the bargain. Women are fickle, and will not fulfil their promises. They will conveniently lose love, respect and scrupulous, so that they can control a man to their advantage.

    It is said that women marry a man hopping to change him, while men marry a woman hopping she doesn't change.

    Love is what men want, that is THE ONLY THING MEN WANT. Yet it is the hopelessly romantic male gender that is constantly accused of being callous and selfish, only thinking about sex.

    The fickle and pragmatic female gender is the one said to be the romantic one...
    Love and infatuation leads to intimacy. And intimacy is built upon the principal of trust. This is what men seek by looking for love. Love is the key to open the door to intimacy.

    The only problem is that women can walk out of that room as they desire. This is why men have a hard time accepting that love, infatuation and intimacy are for the short term.

    Long term intimacy isn't supported with current socio-economics and frankly it never existed in ancient times. You cab study how married men and women lived in ancient times and you see distant couples doing their own activities in old age. The coming together of man and woman was for children and they eventually grow apart.

    That level of intimacy is integral to family building for a brief period of time. Without that intimacy of family building a man can not lay claim to a geneetic legacy as it has been replaced by .gov.

    It seems harsh but that is what has happened to mankind.


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