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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Anyone here think this was orchestrated, or at least used by the Chinese to wage war on the US? China has been saying for years, that they want a sphere of influence and want to carve the world in half.

    We may be missing the elephant in the room.
    While I keep an open mind, I don't believe the pandemic was orchestrated. What I do think is that the reaction to it IS highly orchestrated.

    Governments and politicians from all walks will always seek political advantage. At the moment they are testing their power - how long can we keep people locked down and what methods do we need to employ to keep people on track? At what stage do we need to up the game and bring in the military for control purposes? This will be very valuable information in the years to come.

    As for the financial measures, these will all have to be repaid somehow via direct and indirect taxation. This keeps the average Joe in his place, subservient and looking for political leadership - they pay attention.

    This simultaniously gives politicians great power over the masses which they can utilise for private gain, and gives their egos a good stroke at the same time. They must be loving the attention even if they do have their own concerns over the pandemic itself.
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Most people completely forgot about Sars 1, swine flu, MERS, malaria, zika, ebola, etc...why? The media doesn't talk about those diseases but they are still impacting countries around the world in Africa, ME, Asia, S. America, N. America, Europe etc.

    This will change a lot of industries in my opinion.

    Cruise ship industry was always known for being a floating tub of germs and now due to current events that just reinforces that. Locking people up for weeks at a time in confined areas like sardines must have been a genius move to bring in money short term. But the gravy train is over.

    Never understood how it would be fun to surrender your freedom and safety for such an extended period of time to strangers out to sea. I mean we humans will take risks if the reward is high. For example using a car to go to work or use air lines to travel for business. Cruise industry is all high risk and with little payoff. Better off taking a flight to your destination and be done with.

    But the live pray and love mindset of cruise ships and airlines travel industry is going to go belly up.

    Next, retail and commercial industry with big buildings are going to be no more. No point in keeping them around when there is online shopping and curbside pickup. And to an extension there is no reason to have students live on campus for learning.

    This will lead to less foreign exchange students but it will also promote more localized learning of students in the region which may bring prices back to normal for student tuition. This is because housing of students on campus requires HUGE logistics and costs. Food courts, food halls, medical clinics, parking, transportation, etc. Eliminate all these services and just focus on tuition and student tuition drops. No more parking permits, or needing to fund a huge library. And the big reason why there are huge clinics on universities in the west is because of germs and STDs are rampant on these sites with a lot of young students that don't understand hygiene or safe practices. That is why being giving a vaccine for Meningitus is a top priority for many young students that live on campus or attend uni. While it is rare in the general public the bacteria that causes Meningitus is very rampant at uni if there are shared water fountains, food services, bathrooms, etc.

    Speaking of libraries and malls they were on their last legs but I think this is the end for both. Online learning and entertainment is just overwhelming both. The one positive I can think of is that small coffee shops, bars and food establishments have a chance to come back but any large sized entertainment industry that relies on crowds is going to struggle. But with open air concerts I am unsure because on one hand you have a lot of people packed together but on the other hand it is not a cruise ship situation either.

    From my personal experience I know that you don't change your approach to how you view life and people. But I suppose this outbreak is forcing people to not be so lax with their safety and self preservation. Going your own way as a man has always reinforced this idea of safety and self preservation via knowledge and truth. Interestingly enough no one is calling mgtow paranoid these days.

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    I just thought this belonged here;

    Are the laws and order within your society a bit unreasonable, counterproductive, and even hazardous? That's the mark of feminism diligently at work in your society. Need relief? MGTOW is the only ejection seat available to men facing this live systematic crash and burn scenario.

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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Governments and politicians from all walks will always seek political advantage. At the moment they are testing their power - how long can we keep people locked down and what methods do we need to employ to keep people on track? At what stage do we need to up the game and bring in the military for control purposes? This will be very valuable information in the years to come.
    Couldn't agree more. This panic the media has caused is allowing politicians and lawmakers to "test the waters" to see how many more freedoms they can take away. Watch how once this "crisis" burns out how all of these policies instituted during the "pandemic" stay in affect.

    If the people just go along with losing their freedoms, they will.
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    After all the "Me-Too's" , "Snow Flake" and "SJW" wake up and pull their heads from their ass's ...we may see a resurgence of Down Home small community life styles. People may well start to interact again as normal human beings instead of Greedy consumers always wanting more and more.

    Neighbors may start to talk to each other again as a norm instead of the exception. They may indeed work together to achieve goals instead of just trying to out spend and out "TOY" old Bob next door. 401's and Portfolios may take a back seat. Healthier lifestyles that include sunshine and good old fashion digging in the dirt to produce food may come back in vogue. Same for Garage style small businesses.

    When all the dust settles I think people will become more self sufficient . That will be a hard lesson for most, but even more so for those that have been sucking on the Govt. Tit all their life.
    ...........................................

    I am a realist and do not own a pair of "Rose Colored Glasses"...So the reality is..it's not by any means going to be a utopia of rainbow stew and unicorns. There will be hardships that might make the "great depression" look like a stroll thru the park. Crime may very well increase..cities may be controlled by Warlords ...the same could happen in smaller communities as well. Private armies will form to enforce the new "Rule of Law" in their AO. Whatever forms up to be a Justice system will more than likely be Local..and how it responds will be swift and to the point. (Go long on Hemp Rope) And even all this will pale in comparison if the US Govt. bullies it's way into War with Russia China and Iran.

    So I say FUBAR BOHICA.......and women are still sluts.

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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    It's a quote from The Stand but I'll say it here now. "There's a storm coming", and it's not their storm.
    This pandemic is NOT a Steven King novel. Not yet anyway. The next pandemic could be.
    Man! That movie is awesome. I've lost count how many times I've watched it. Good old Randall Flag. And yes I agree, it is nowhere near Steve King's The Stand level pandemic.

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    I believe that if this virus were a bioweapon that got loose it would be much deadlier.
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    While I keep an open mind, I don't believe the pandemic was orchestrated.
    Same here just has a few Facebook friends posting stuff that were loaded with basic, obvious errors when I analysed it. I don't do conspiracys!!!!!. But I'll post that stuff later on the relevant thread since this one's called covid19 and MGTOW.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Most people completely forgot about Sars 1, swine flu, MERS, malaria, zika, ebola, etc...why? The media doesn't talk about those diseases but they are still impacting countries around the world in Africa, ME, Asia, S. America, N. America, Europe etc.
    That's the media for you, get a flood/earthquake in a third world country it's on the news for a couple of days then forgot about. Likewise theres lots of conflicts and genocides going on that the majority of people in the first world have never heard of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Never understood how it would be fun to surrender your freedom and safety for such an extended period of time to strangers out to sea...……...But the live pray and love mindset of cruise ships and airlines travel industry is going to go belly up.
    I have only used a cruise ship once because it was the only way you could visit Russia without having to get a visa. One night each way was more than enough. Otherwise I couldn't care less about that industry.
    I do live to travel and I fear the era of cheap flights will be over. Airlines go out of business reducing competition. I have been told by Canadians many times that flights cost a fortune within the country because of lack of competition.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Interestingly enough no one is calling mgtow paranoid these days.
    Another thing that might change.......found on twitter.
    """After majority of the population was exposed for not being able to survive 2 weeks without a paycheck I don’t want to hear any bash for people who live with their parents, drive older paid off cars, have roommates, not own a house or not paying for expensive dates"""
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    This is a theory I think is plausible. It's an article from Newser...
    https://www.newser.com/story/288899/...mpaign=rss_top
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Trends to look for:

    1 - Nations begin to understand that outsourcing absolutely everything to China is a terrible idea. The only way to counter China's immense economic power (slave labour, a billion strong) is with tariffs. China won't like it. Expect tariff wars.

    1a - Nationalism in general makes a comeback.

    2 - Office work moves online and stays there. A resurgence in local everything, especially shops. Fewer cars on the road. Fewer massive buildings. Fewer massive carparks.

    2a - expect the inner cites to collapse into decay. The *only* reason that productive citizens are willing to prop them up is that they have to work there. Long term, scyscrapers will collapse and no-one will give a shit.

    3 - The Boomer Remover lives up to the hype.

    3a - The property market is permitted to find its real level. At the moment, prices are propped up by governments because boomers have their retirement savings in property, and all electoral hell would break loose if values were permitted to fall. The truth is that houses are not an investment - they don't earn money.

    3b - in general, vast amounts of locked-up capital will return to the market. Real capital - not fiat printed money. The days when a young couple could buy a home and reasonably expect to own it in 20 years may return.

    4- the 3rd world depopulates. AIDS has already made many, many African villages ghost towns. This new virus will continue the trend.

    4a - Wars and unrest caused ultimately by population pressure will ease. Refugee pressure will ease.

    5 - The fucking antivaxxers shut the fuck up. See point 3 above. The memes are savage, eg: "How come this virus is such a thing when so many middle-aged women have healing crystals?"

    5a - Less bullshit in general. Prayer doesn't work. Crystals don't work. Essential oils don't work. What works is public health and decades-old anitmalarials. Maybe science and reason will win back some respect.


    In other words, I truly think that this will be a net positive. The negative side of the balance is pretty serious. May people will die, including possibly me. But this is a reset that the whole world is just so fucking ready for. Long live Gen Z. Try not to fuck it up.

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    6. Nursing homes empty out

    7. Social security admin bought a few more days

    8. Insurance companies and pension funds save fortunes.

    9. Small business is finally annihilated.

    10. Giant meteor arrives and fixes everything and gives feminists the absolute equality they were seeking.

    11. In outer space are particles of mgtower because he was lucky enough to be at ground zero!
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    I stated several posts ago, in this thread that the numbers look kindda odd. Well, now the media here in India are openly admitting it, though they are wording it differently. Not saying we trust any media blindly, but that they are saying almost exactly what I was having a hunch of :

    The ministry of health and family welfare on Monday said India went from 100 cases to 1,000 cases in 12 days. In comparison, Covid-19 cases in other developed countries rose between 3,500 and 8,000 in the same time frame.
    Source: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/74901771.cms

    So, if we go by their words, somehow we Indians are soo amazing, that we managed get a grip on a dangerous pandemic by about 3.5-10x times than Italy or US or UK ??! Damn, we must be so good... (we are not)

    If it is what I think it is, then I'd say this thriller movie has just started...
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    I think many people are waking up! Maybe it's time for the slaves to throw off the fake chains of servitude

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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I stated several posts ago, in this thread that the numbers look kindda odd. Well, now the media here in India are openly admitting it, though they are wording it differently. Not saying we trust any media blindly, but that they are saying almost exactly what I was having a hunch of :



    Source: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/74901771.cms

    So, if we go by their words, somehow we Indians are soo amazing, that we managed get a grip on a dangerous pandemic by about 3.5-10x times than Italy or US or UK ??! Damn, we must be so good... (we are not)

    If it is what I think it is, then I'd say this thriller movie has just started...
    I agree, but I still can't tell if we're watching the pandemic version of "Wag the Dog" or "Bill and Ted's Next Misadventure".
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    Re: Covid19 and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Nationalism in general makes a comeback.

    Yes, History has shown us many times that economic hardship and Nationalism go hand in hand. There are already rumblings within the european union about bailing out the countries hardest hit by this virus. I wouldn't be suprised if this finishes off the EU completely.
    I also see the rise of the far right as happened with Golden dawn in Greece when their economy went bad, but on a bigger scale. Expect to see the skinheads marching the streets and backlashes against immigrants etc in the next couple of years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    A resurgence in local everything, especially shops

    I can't see this somehow, my facebook newsfeed is full of people saying that they will stop buying things made in China or from the likes of sports direct. Ultimately peoples actions will speak louder than words. When the economy is in the pits are people going to buy a 25 pound T-shirt made in Britain over a 10 pound one made in the third world ?. I see online shopping only getting bigger.


    The Boomer Remover lives up to the hype....Nursing homes empty out.....Social security admin bought a few more days.......Insurance companies and pension funds save fortunes.

    The money saved by society with a small percentage of old and unproductive people being killed off is vastly outweighed by the massive economic costs overall. Also even in a worst case scenerio the declining birth rates mean that it won't take that many years for the percentage of population over 60,70,80 to revert back to what it is now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    the 3rd world depopulates. AIDS has already made many, many African villages ghost towns. This new virus will continue the trend.

    The population of Africa is over 1.25 billion and has doubled in roughly 27 years even with AIDS !!!!!. This is a combination of eliminating many childhood diseases and the birth rate very slow to decline. I have just done a quick calculation, if 100 million people dropped dead in Africa today it would take less than 4 years for the population to recover.


    How Global Demographics Threaten to Transform the West (very worrying video)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    The fucking antivaxxers shut the fuck up

    I hate pseudoscience espically antivaxxers as their actions cost lives, this will probably put a dent in their populatity. But consider that they belive that vaccines are a plot to depopulate Africa when a minutes research as I did above shows the exact opposite. Never under estimate the ability of pseudoscience belivers to explain away conflicting information.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Less bullshit in general. Prayer doesn't work. Crystals don't work.........Maybe science and reason will win back some respect.

    I just hope that some world leaders pay more attention to their science advisors from now on. Unfortunately the internet and social media means that crank ideas that appeal to peoples emotions can spread around the world in a couple of days.


    Coronavirus: Science vs. politics
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    Since this is a MGTOW forum I'm wondering what effects this will have on male/female relationships, birth rates, marriage rates, divorce rates etc Both in shortterm lockdown and longterm economic mess ????
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    Since this is a MGTOW forum I'm wondering what effects this will have on male/female relationships, birth rates, marriage rates, divorce rates etc Both in shortterm lockdown and longterm economic mess ????
    I've been wondering much the same.

    Expect a baby boom - people get bored, but maybe not as big as might be expected. I've noticed an uptick in ads for exercising at home, good advice, but now with little background noise to drown out our activities I've noticed from the apartments around me certain sounds. I can only assume that they're exercising the hell out of each other!!!
    However, the singles must be finding it nearly impossible to hook up so the number of new single mums will probably drop.

    Divorce rates are probably set to rise. Close proximity for extended periods of time + fear + frustration = arguments. Marriage rates will probably decline for the same reasons.
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    Reports from the boots on the ground around here, big box stores are full of husbanks buying shit for projects suddenly pulled off the back burner, now front and center.

    Wifie know's she can't upgrade to bigger and better for the time being, so she utilized hubsterbank to make house better! His time, her benefit when she leapfrogs to a new hubsterbank that has more than her after she takes X-bank's past, current, and future's benefits of his labor, I'd say that's a 21st century slave and his master! Lots of women create several husbanksters that all contribute to her little circle with her in the middle, king on her thrown!

    All I can say to her majesty is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    Yes, History has shown us many times that economic hardship and Nationalism go hand in hand. There are already rumblings within the european union about bailing out the countries hardest hit by this virus. I wouldn't be suprised if this finishes off the EU completely.
    I also see the rise of the far right as happened with Golden dawn in Greece when their economy went bad, but on a bigger scale. Expect to see the skinheads marching the streets and backlashes against immigrants etc in the next couple of years.
    I'm so sick and tired of being called a racist, islamophobe, nazi etc when I state that I love being a white Dutch man, that I welcome the return of Nationalism, or even National Socialism. I am by no means a neo-nazi (those guys are idiots), and I won't shave my head and march down the streets, but I'm really not opposed to that. As long as they don't start murdering people who aren't white. If they're all about kicking the leeches and parasites out of the country (geez, where have we heard that before?) I salute them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resdayn View Post
    I'm so sick and tired of being called a racist, islamophobe, nazi etc when I state that I love being a white Dutch man, that I welcome the return of Nationalism, or even National Socialism. I am by no means a neo-nazi (those guys are idiots), and I won't shave my head and march down the streets, but I'm really not opposed to that. As long as they don't start murdering people who aren't white. If they're all about kicking the leeches and parasites out of the country (geez, where have we heard that before?) I salute them.
    What's wrong with being a racist, islamophobe, nazi etc? I say if they're violating people and breaking laws, hammer them! Anything else is a form of thought police and only instigates them further, and the Trigglypuff's are made thought police officers, judges, and lawyers! And the thinkers, prisoners!
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    I walked to the store today, a woman I have never talked to before asked me for $700 to repair her car. She knows me through a mutual friend. I just walked away

    Women are gonna collapse during the lockdown


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