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    Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Hello All,


    As you know the almost the whole world is battling a strange adversary! I was wondering if this situation has changed your world view and your belief about the meaning of life in general!


    I would appreciate if any of you participate in this dialog.


    Be safe!
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    My loading bench has been real busy as of late.
    Shooting season coming up, perhaps the SHTF too.
    Lost my job back on October, so this virus thing hasn't bothered me much.
    So far here, life is good.
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I think this will give men a chance for reflection. During the quarantine, many men will engage in hobbies and other pursuits that are curtailed so cupcake can 'keep up with the Jones'.' When they realize how much time is unnecessarily spent to earn money to impress they don't like, I hope we see a mass epiphany and men start saying 'fuck it, I am going fishing.' Waiting for retirement is waiting for the death of dreams and ambitions: live now.

    As much as I would like to see that, we will see tap dancing unicorns on every street corner first. But at least I hope this quarantine gives men a reason to ask the question 'Why?'

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    As much as I would like to see that, we will see tap dancing unicorns on every street corner first. But at least I hope this quarantine gives men a reason to ask the question 'Why?'
    Indeed. The time and space this lockdown has afforded me has been a miracle. I have the time to think about myself and my goals, dreams and also pay attention to my healthy and body.

    It has taught me the values of boundaries, which will put me in a stronger position when work resumes and I have to hear my female bitch manager yapping about this or that.
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I'm just glad to see all those people wearing their protective face masks, it keeps their viruses to themselves and it covers some damn ugly faces I don't wanna see anyway.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I lost my job in February so I'm not really affected financially by corona-chan. I will say this however, I find it alarming how we can suspend so many fundamental rights (like freedom of assembly) due to a virus. But other than that I'm doing good. I've been catching up on sidelined projects and have been working out like crazy. So far so good.

    I've also been enjoying watching the Globalist-Leftist world order take loss after loss. Especially sweet is to watch leftists swarm gunstores to get armed only to be told that they have to go through a background check and wait 2 weeks to pick up their guns. Man gotta love that poetic justice.

    Edit: Also on my side of the 45 Parallel lefties wanting guns got btfo'd. Usually they show up to a shop, get asked for their Rpal, Pal and range membership. Then upon not having those things they're instructed to pound sand. Fretting, they ask how do you get a Canadian gun license for a pistol? This is what they're told:

    1. You need to follow 2 safety courses for non-restricted and restricted Firearms costing $300.
    2. You need to properly fill out a Gov't application from, have 2 non criminal people as your garantors and pay an additional $100.

    3. You have to go to a police station to have them copy your application documents and endorse them before being sent. Your application MUST have the seal of your local police station.

    4. Then once received by the Federal Firearms Cheiftan's office you've got to wail until they conduct phone interviews with you and your garantors to ensure you're not suspicious. They can refuse your application for depression, history of violence, bankruptcy, divorce. And if you recently broke up with your ex dick holdster (Wife or GF) they can block you from getting a gun license.

    5. After receiving your license you must register with a shooting range for approx $300 per year.

    This entire process takes about 12 to 18 months start to finish along with about $1,000. People learning about it for the first time get so discouraged they don't even want a gun anymore. Worse yet you cannot carry at all in public and you get potential murder charges for self defense. All in all you Americans have it made, never give up your 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I was about to start a similarly themed thread but you beat me to it (shit!)

    Here's what I had ready to post. Whilst it may be a little off topic at times I think it's close enough:



    Time to think!

    This is mostly for the lurkers on this site, but still it is a question all of us must answer.

    With the recent house arrests (lockdowns) I’ve been wondering just how many people are taking this opportunity to re-evaluate their circumstances and choices in life.

    For many MGTOW reflection is something we’re well acquainted with, but what of the rest? What must be happening out there? How many are re-evaluating their lives as I type this?

    The married / cohabiting man with young kids probably doesn’t have much time to reflect, they rarely do. But with no relief button to press (e.g. going down the pub for an hour or three, or going to the gym to vent some frustration) tensions must be rising. Even in the best of circumstances where everybody’s pulling their weight many must be questioning if they’ve made the right choices.

    The married / cohabiting man without young kids is possibly thinking: Is this what my life is going to look like. Can I bear another X number of years with this person that I thought I knew but now I see a different side of?

    For the single guys living alone, even those that consider themselves red pill might be thinking – this is my future if I don’t find someone to settle down with: the lure of the dark side.

    And for some, amidst all this they will believe that they have found true love, someone they can trust and depend on in a crisis. I wonder how long that will last after this crisis has ended, but that is a whole other discussion.

    And no doubt the wimminz are asking themselves similar questions – I wouldn’t want to appear misogynistic now would I?

    But what of the MGTOW?

    Many of us will be living our lives normally, for the most part at least. We tend to eschew the company of blue pillers and find contentment in our own company because the inane ramblings of the unsighted weigh on us after a while. The idea though that our choice has been taken away weighs heavily at times; there have been downsides even for us. Sometimes I need the physical company of other people. (There, I’ve said it, I have needs too.)

    Many of us have seen this coming for a long time. Personally I doubted if I would live to see it, nevertheless it seems it was inevitable at some stage.

    I don’t in any way wish to minimalize the grief and suffering of those affected by this pandemic, but there is a bigger picture to be considered.

    What of the future?

    So far, and I admit there is some time to go, this pandemic seems to be no more serious than an outbreak of a particularly dangerous flu.

    The Swedish model seems to indicate that all our precautions r.e. shutting down the economy etc., have amounted to nothing, zilch, nada.

    But this defies common sense! If you do not come into contact with the virus then you cannot contract it!

    Simple and undeniable!

    Not so, at least in practical and absolute terms.

    People must come into contact with other people. Unless you live in a cave in a mountain on a small island then people are going to come into contact with others. We need to procure stuff and shit and things, not least of all food. We need to interact, and so the virus continues to spread.

    Simple and undeniable!

    At best isolation will slow the spread, even if the evidence seems to indicate this to be wishful thinking.

    So my question is this:

    Is this the new norm? Every year or two we seem to be having a major pandemic on our hands. Are we to spend the rest of eternity wearing masks and being afraid to shake the hand of a friend or being afraid to hug a loved one? Are our elderly and infirm to be shipped off and ostracised for their own good? You will be that person some day!

    Fuck that!

    I’ll put up with it for a time out of simple precaution, but as a way of life – no way. I know others agree with me for now, but how many of them will eventually succumb? Am I going to be left with a choice, or is my freedom to choose how I live my life going to be legislated away from me? For now it’s the elderly and infirm, but if they get away with this, who will they turn to next?

    You have this condition, or you’ve reached the age of XX and have earned the right to do: whatever the fuck we tell you to do for the rest of your days. Sit in a corner, you’re not allowed physical contact with anyone any more. Mmmm. Sounds like bliss.

    In one of my earliest threads here I put forward the notion that the ‘powers that be’ want us to be unhappy in order to control us. It would seem that that tactic hasn’t produced the results they wanted quickly enough and so now they resort to scaring us senseless, and senselessness is what I’m seeing around me: people, all of us, being micro-managed by those in authority.

    Whose life is it anyway?

    Big Brother is flexing its muscle.

    What’s next:

    For the general good of everybody at 12:00 midday all are to complete an exercise routine for the good of their health. Squat thrusts, running on the spot, push-ups. Be a good little citizen. Your country cares about you, do you care about your country???

    Do what you’re told – we have your interests at heart!

    I thought, I honestly thought (naively) that when I walked away from the corporate culture as an employee that that was the end of it: no more shall I be bound by those that wish to control my every action. It seems I was wrong. Shame on me.

    But I don’t let that get me down. In all walks of life you will come across those that wish to control you. Be astute. Be aware. It’s not always easy, but when you identify such people sometimes it is possible to turn the tables. You can be aware of their intentions and allow them to achieve their short-sighted and petty goals in the knowledge that you can achieve your goals through them. Use them as they intended to use you.

    And then you’re caught. They (TPTB) don’t care why you comply, so long as you comply. You belong to the herd. Baaaaaaa.

    There are those that would say attack is the best form of defence and there is a certain logic there, but for myself I just want to live (not just survive). I want to enjoy shit and I want to enjoy it without others imposing their views on me. I’m willing to put in my slave hours as an employee, but why am I not allowed to enjoy my free time as I see fit in today’s society?

    I haven’t and don’t want to harm anyone; why have I been put in prison? And I don’t only mean that as a reflection of this lockdown shit; that is just the latest manifestation of the ongoing political correctness that has been going on for years.

    I’m saddened though that all TPTB seem to be on board. The politicians (Yes, all of them. Trump / Pelosi / Schumer / Ireland / U.K. / E.U. / Asia / Australia etc.), the media, online (social) media, the medical community, the scientists, the guy next door. Everyone seems to be on the same page. There is the odd voice of concern in the wilderness, but they are ridiculed at every turn much as we (MGTOW) are. Maybe the masses are right, one must allow for that possibility, but when everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet and opposing views are demonised, I for one will keep asking questions. There is always an alternative!



    And one more thing; just a light-hearted passing thought.

    When I was a kid it was beaten in to me both verbally and, on occasion, physically that wiping your nose on your sleeve was a dirty thing to do. Now it is being pushed as the preferred and ‘clean’ thing to do. Well, which is it? Is it dirty and disgusting or is it clean and safe?

    In the future are we going to be vilified if we choose to be clean? And are those that have heavy deposits on their cuffs going to be seen as caring and sensitive? Just a question!

    What world are we building for ourselves? If there is another realm, Orwell must be screaming: I TOLD YOU SO!
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Most people under 60 who get it recover, and mostly those with underlying health issues are getting severely ill and dying.
    The issue being that obesity is an underlying health issue. This flu is disproportionately killing lardasses. It's … kinda hard not to feel that that this is not an entirely unmixed tragedy.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Personally I'm doing fine but I'm increasing getting frustrated with what's happening nationally. But that's worth a post on it's own...…….

    Main concern is older less healthy family members.

    I'm still working and I'd still be ok with no income since I plan well ahead financially. Ultimately Monday to Friday is no different, took a bit of a hit with some investments but I should be back to normal within 3 months due to spending going right down.

    Weekends are obviously boring but everyone is in the same boat so it's not like everyone is going down the pub and I'm missing out. This makes it a lot easier to deal with.

    I have been a heavy drinker in the past so I'm seeing it as an opportunity to rest for a bit, I have never understood drinking loads at home I will have one drink on Fri/sat night but that's it. My fitness program is coming along well, just done 10 push ups for the first time (couldn't do 2 6 months ago), ran 3rd fastest 3K this week as well. Trying to keep my brain occupied is a bit more difficult, but overall I'm coping better than 90% of the population. What I'm seeing via social media often is not good.

    Couples.....I once read a travel guide that said every couple should spend a few months backpacking together in a third world country and putting themselves in difficult situations to find out how compatible they actually are before living together, marriage, kids. This virus / lockdown is doing just that, a few will get closer but a lot more will come apart. I predict a lot of breakups and cheating once this lockdown ends.

    Big increase on my Facebook news feed of men being pressured to do home improvement projects, mental health quotes (women), heated debates, binge eating/drinking, attention seeking (women) and of course "I'm bored" generally seeing how empty a lot of peoples lives are.

    Got a few messages off random women, I just told them I'm working very long hours (lie), don't do internet pen friends. My rule now is any interaction with new women that is not heading in the direction of sex I pull the plug on. I'll reply a few days before the pubs open, not interested in meeting I won't be messaging again.

    I'm wondering how life in general is going to change when this is over. History has shown us that life is never the same again after major events like this.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    One piece of good news
    My Ex was totally successful in alienating me from my daughter. But since the lockdown, we have been facetiming. At first just 5 or 10 mintues at a time, now its hours. Our relationship has never been better. When adversity comes, no longer is toxic masculinity a trait women despise.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I think that human life is over valued. We've shut down the entire global economy for the sake of saving a tiny majority who were either quite old or very unwell anyway. I find the whole situation absolutely ridiculous especially when by some estimates 50 to 85 times more people could have been infected [0]. This puts the morality rate at around 0.2% - I just don't think that losing this small fraction of people is a big deal.

    [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/202...h-coronavirus/
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Hey, Naive! Your screen name is the story of my life. Frankly, I think this virus is actually the mess God is cleaning up. He's fixing the original batch of DNA that Eve fucked up in that garden they used to live in.

    As for what's going on worldwide? I think someone is trying to pay off Mrs. Clese's property taxes on that $Expensive National landmark she can no longer afford to live in. Hence, John's alimony tour. Doesn't FemDom Empire's logo look like a Target symbol? I'm referring to the store known as Target and the trouble they got into when their insiders started to rob stuff from Target's customers (like personal financial information). I believe those people are trying to keep Mrs. Clese fro going to prison for tax evasion...like Al Capone.

    I think I know too much, and I'm drawing my own conclusions, but I'm not worried. God once promised he'd never flood us out like a bunch of sewer rats. He never promised to not kill us another way. I guess we'll see. Whether we figure anything out before we die? I guess we'll either find out or we won't. As for me? I'm doing just fine. If God wants me He'll let me know in His own good time.
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I feel like the world has been forced to catch up with me. I also feel validated by being a tight wad. I read recently that most people in Australia have less than $7000 in the bank. This was before the consequences of CoVid. People spend like idiots. New phone, must have!! I am still using one from 10 years ago lol. I don't care, my car is over 20 years old, it still runs. I live debt free.

    I have a job which is a pain in the arse but it is considered essential, in part I have that job because I was a complete failure at school and never bothered to aspire to much yet did anyway. I failed at failing lol.

    I get to work from home a lot at the moment which is great. I hope we still have that chance when this finally settles down. It has taught me to keep doing what I do but to even more of an extreme. I like to save my money, I like to be home. I have no aspirations to travel the world. A lot of the people I have met who have done so seem none the richer for the experience. I can get drunk just as easily in my living room don't need to fly over the world doing the same thing.

    I am hoping that they continue to restrict immigration, that things become more Nationalized as in bringing back manufacturing etc here. Less reliance on other countries, particularly China which a Prime Minister we had over 10 years ago had a hard on for and claimed we were in an Asian Century. Well, I guess CoVid had other ideas.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHorse View Post
    I feel like the world has been forced to catch up with me. I also feel validated by being a tight wad. I read recently that most people in Australia have less than $7000 in the bank. This was before the consequences of CoVid. People spend like idiots. New phone, must have!! I am still using one from 10 years ago lol. I don't care, my car is over 20 years old, it still runs. I live debt free.
    Same here, but unfortunately you know full well that you will be paying for these idiots via higher taxes for years or even decades.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Thank you all for taking the time and writing about your thoughts and feelings on this matter. I am sure each individual sees any situation such as COVID-19 from his or her perspective. Frankly in some ways I like the new and perhaps temporary life style. Staying inside as much as possible has been always attractive to me. This might be because I have introverted personality and I am not much a skilled person in social settings and games! Please don’t get me wrong. I also get sad when I see all the pain and suffering caused by the novel Coronavirus. However, it is interesting to see my abnormal tendencies has become kind of norm these days which is called social distancing! I realize that this situation is somewhat difficult for many people who like to engage in daily social interactions and games, be it working in offices or going to school or even shopping and so on. But I enjoy it much. To give you an example, the beginning of the New Year in my country is the first day of the spring and as an old tradition family and friends visit and revisit to congratulate the New Year. I am sure this tradition had useful functions in old civilizations, but I believe its usefulness is at bare minimum these days because life styles and the structure of the societies have changed drastically compared to very old days, say 2000 years ago! Anyways, this year the tradition of visiting and revisiting the family was put aside due to the fear of Coronavirus spread. This was not any problem for me.

    However I am almost sure of one fact and that is we all will somehow forget the current situation with the passage of time.
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    I think that unemployment from the virus is going to trigger many divorces.

    If he is unemployed, and she is still working, she will view him as a burden, and will monkey branch to a man with a steady job, with the hopes that, once the crisis is over, she can convince that new man to let her stop working.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    I think that unemployment from the virus is going to trigger many divorces. If he is unemployed, and she is still working, she will view him as a burden, and will monkey branch to a man with a steady job, with the hopes that, once the crisis is over, she can convince that new man to let her stop working.
    If the economy is in the toilet there will be less men to monkey branch to.

    https://www.tenglerlaw.com/Articles/The-U-S-divorce-rate-and-its-correlation-to-economic-prosperity.shtml
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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    If the economy is in the toilet there will be less men to monkey branch to.

    https://www.tenglerlaw.com/Articles/The-U-S-divorce-rate-and-its-correlation-to-economic-prosperity.shtml
    Beating a dead horse here I know but again the writer's of the study dance around the issue:

    One reason behind the statistic could be that many people living in bad economic times may fear leaving a marriage if they are unsure if they will be able to support themselves or seek employment post separation.
    No, not "people". Women. Almost always women initiate divorce. If there are fewer divorces it is because women are not initiating divorces.

    We'll see how this pans out with coronavirus. The natural laws of necessity of a husbank for a woman have been heavily skewed by Daddy Gubmint's bailouts.

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    Re: Does Covid-19 and its consequences have any philosophical impact for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    Beating a dead horse here I know but again the writer's of the study dance around the issue:

    One reason behind the statistic could be that many people living in bad economic times may fear leaving a marriage if they are unsure if they will be able to support themselves or seek employment post separation.
    No, not "people". Women. Almost always women initiate divorce. If there are fewer divorces it is because women are not initiating divorces.

    We'll see how this pans out with coronavirus. The natural laws of necessity of a husbank for a woman have been heavily skewed by Daddy Gubmint's bailouts.
    A lot of the problem is that women believe that they are smart, far smarter than their male counterparts (maybe because they choose them that way – I’ll have to think more on that, any contributions welcome!)

    This whole lockdown thing, whether warranted or not, has forced women to re-think their strategies: at least for a short while their plans have been interrupted. They can’t get men to do shit for them because … the law says NO! They have to fend for themselves for a few weeks without the ability to play rope-a-dope. No expensive meals, no big nights out where they can be spotted socialising, etc.

    Whilst I would like to think that this would have an effect on the female psyche I fear that those are forlorn hopes. As soon as all this comes to an end – if it ever does – they’ll be out there saying shit like “I couldn’t do anything because of Covid and now I have all these problems.”

    And the sad thing is there’ll be no lack of white knights out there eager to help them in some wild hope of impressing them enough to have a shot of gaining a woman that will use them for the rest of their lives. I mean, why wouldn’t they, that’s what the relationship was based on after all.

    And this is not a criticism of the females, but of the males that are willing to sell their souls for the sniff of pussy.
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