Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 21
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    445
    Reputation
    1052
    Type
    mgtow

    Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    https://jaffememo.com/

    For the lazy(full memo at link):

    ——-

    The ‘Jaffe Memo’ is an infamous document produced by Planned Parenthood in 1969 which, in a single page, conveys the lengths that elitists are willing to go to ‘manage’ the U.S. Population.

    Planned Parenthood portrays itself as an advocate for women’s rights and autonomy and sexual freedom, but items on the list reveal a different story.

    How to reduce the population of the United States? Here are some of the ideas that were on the table:

    -Fertility control agents in water supply.

    -[Induce?] Chronic Depression

    -Compulsory abortion

    -Compulsory sterilization

    -Discouragement of private home ownership

    Not exactly the sorts of things consistent with ‘autonomy’!

    Tfertility control jaffehe ‘memo’ is a synthesis of a number of ideas then in wide circulation, both inside and outside of Planned Parenthood. Because of its concise summary of these ideas, the memo serves as a useful illustration of a whole range of disconcerting policy considerations. The memo itself indicates that it was “derived primarily” from people such as M. Young, W. Shockley, L. Day, and others.

    Circumstances that unfolded in the United States shortly after the memo was circulated privately strongly suggest that some of these proposals, at least, were implemented. Whether or not they were implemented because of the advocacy of Planned Parenthood’s ‘Population Control’ division (Frederick Jaffe being in charge of that division), is not the concern of this site. That said, the reader should be aware that these organizations are very aware of their complicity in such schemes, and have been active in trying to alter the record. As it pertains to this memo, Jaffe’s own son, David Jaffe, has been active on the Internet whitewashing the record regarding his father.

    Tracking the deliberate attempts to obfuscate the record is not the point of this site. Rather, informing people of the existence and content of the memo, and raising reasonable suspicion that Planned Parenthood and its ilk is not how it presents itself, that is the purpose of this site. Still, documentation may be provided as it comes available to substantiate those suspicions, and the public is invited to provide their own.

  2. #2
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2022
    Posts
    12
    Reputation
    26
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    https://jaffememo.com/

    For the lazy(full memo at link):

    ——-

    The ‘Jaffe Memo’ is an infamous document produced by Planned Parenthood in 1969 which, in a single page, conveys the lengths that elitists are willing to go to ‘manage’ the U.S. Population.

    Planned Parenthood portrays itself as an advocate for women’s rights and autonomy and sexual freedom, but items on the list reveal a different story.

    How to reduce the population of the United States? Here are some of the ideas that were on the table:

    -Fertility control agents in water supply.

    -[Induce?] Chronic Depression

    -Compulsory abortion

    -Compulsory sterilization

    -Discouragement of private home ownership

    Not exactly the sorts of things consistent with ‘autonomy’!

    Tfertility control jaffehe ‘memo’ is a synthesis of a number of ideas then in wide circulation, both inside and outside of Planned Parenthood. Because of its concise summary of these ideas, the memo serves as a useful illustration of a whole range of disconcerting policy considerations. The memo itself indicates that it was “derived primarily” from people such as M. Young, W. Shockley, L. Day, and others.

    Circumstances that unfolded in the United States shortly after the memo was circulated privately strongly suggest that some of these proposals, at least, were implemented. Whether or not they were implemented because of the advocacy of Planned Parenthood’s ‘Population Control’ division (Frederick Jaffe being in charge of that division), is not the concern of this site. That said, the reader should be aware that these organizations are very aware of their complicity in such schemes, and have been active in trying to alter the record. As it pertains to this memo, Jaffe’s own son, David Jaffe, has been active on the Internet whitewashing the record regarding his father.

    Tracking the deliberate attempts to obfuscate the record is not the point of this site. Rather, informing people of the existence and content of the memo, and raising reasonable suspicion that Planned Parenthood and its ilk is not how it presents itself, that is the purpose of this site. Still, documentation may be provided as it comes available to substantiate those suspicions, and the public is invited to provide their own.
    MGTOW is a side-effect of misandry and misandric laws. If MGTOW was part of the propaganda, then it would be accepted by the woke leftists instead of being slandered as "dangerous".
    MGTOW is an inconvenient and pRoBlEmAtIc side-effect for them because it halts the cash flow from men-->women-->corporations.
    Since men are not nearly as materialistic and consumerist as women, if men are not sponsoring a woman, they tend to be very conservative of their money in terms of savings, investment, retirement planning etc and that is just problematic for the corporate consumerism.

  3. #3
    Senior Member mgtower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    6,522
    Reputation
    17850
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Standing before the judgment seat of god and having blood on your hands is bad enough, but having innocent children's blood on your hands is entirely something else.

    Feminism has spawned more social demons than there are satin's angles to manage them.

    Give a woman an inch and she'll take you wealth, health, society, and country as they did throughout the western world.

    All the curses and chastisements of a sinful satanic demonic society are upon us. It's pervasive and all encompassing, smothering out the light and ushering in the darkness.

    What spiritual minded gentleman would want any part of this freight train to hell? United States has fallen the fastest and furthest among all the western nations, it's now helpless and hopeless to its own demise.

    Next stop, hell on earth.
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


  4. #4
    Senior Member Chris007's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    Posts
    496
    Reputation
    1464
    Type
    Worry free

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    We are demonized because we are MGTOW. But in reality, more and more people are going their own way every day. There is, however, an enormous difference between MGTOW from the degeneration of our society and the crumbling interaction between the sexes and MGTOW from recognizing and embracing Christ.
    The latter seems prevalent in the western world, people in general are dismissive of God for different reasons. Either they didn't get immediate response and gratification when they asked for something, they choose to live a decadent and self pleasuring life, they can't wrap their heads around the notion that there's a being higher than themselves, or they give in to the evil temptations in hopes of gaining more artificial power and hollow pleasure by following the fallen angel.
    Regardless, the further from God they go, the more lost and depressed they become. The more they realize that their life has no meaning or purpose and they drift towards nihilism. They think that they will become strong, independent individuals but they are ultimately deceived and thrown into the eternal fire.
    People create their own hell on earth mgtower. All our actions and decisions have consequences and ramifications. We have the choice and power to choose to be separated from the destructive forces in our society and on our planet. We must make the decision ourselves which leads us onto the right path, and the result is peace and happiness.

  5. #5
    Senior Member mgtower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    6,522
    Reputation
    17850
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris007 View Post
    We are demonized because we are MGTOW. But in reality, more and more people are going their own way every day. There is, however, an enormous difference between MGTOW from the degeneration of our society and the crumbling interaction between the sexes and MGTOW from recognizing and embracing Christ.
    The latter seems prevalent in the western world, people in general are dismissive of God for different reasons. Either they didn't get immediate response and gratification when they asked for something, they choose to live a decadent and self pleasuring life, they can't wrap their heads around the notion that there's a being higher than themselves, or they give in to the evil temptations in hopes of gaining more artificial power and hollow pleasure by following the fallen angel.
    Regardless, the further from God they go, the more lost and depressed they become. The more they realize that their life has no meaning or purpose and they drift towards nihilism. They think that they will become strong, independent individuals but they are ultimately deceived and thrown into the eternal fire.
    People create their own hell on earth mgtower. All our actions and decisions have consequences and ramifications. We have the choice and power to choose to be separated from the destructive forces in our society and on our planet. We must make the decision ourselves which leads us onto the right path, and the result is peace and happiness.
    A-men brother, but we're not alone, I have a cousin (female) that's done with the agony of modern gender dynamics as we are, she quit drinking and put a halt on any more relationships, she, like us, has had enough and enjoys the peace that comes with solidarity. She's also a staunch conservative and Christian. We're not alone, we're only first to blow our cultural fuse and power down any and all commitment.

    I see it as a haybarn fire, we keep backing off as the flames and heat advances, and we're called fools and insurrectionists by those who's cloths are starting to smolder and smoke just before they spontaneously ignite.
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


  6. #6

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    There are two reasons why birth rates are down. Women with their own jobs/money and extreme irrational misandry.

    The vast majority of women marry for money, if they can't get a monetary come up on a man she will not get with any man or have hardly any children. Damn near every country on earth where women can get their own resources that society brith rate collapses. Because women trade their sexuality with for money. Poor countries have more kids because women have no choice but to fuck for resources.(note I not condoning anything bad against women but this just what happens when women get resources)

    The second is irrational misandry, humans natural dislike men but usaully they make a deal with them(do xyz, go through the right of passage, up hold our code of ethics and then we will accept you). if they follow the rules would usaully get respect and even appreciation to a degree. But now no matter what you do society will still shit on you. So now more and more men are disengaging Because they see no way toward actually being accepted


    Mix those teo together (most women not valuing most men and society treating all men as a under class no matter what they do) is a recipe for population collapse

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    445
    Reputation
    1052
    Type
    mgtow

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by FangBlade View Post
    Mix those teo together (most women not valuing most men and society treating all men as a under class no matter what they do) is a recipe for population collapse
    Other than shitty government programs, which shows how brain dead the people were behind such fragile systems, why is population decrease a bad thing?

  8. #8
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Bumfuck, Egypt
    Posts
    3,573
    Reputation
    11248
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    Other than shitty government programs, which shows how brain dead the people were behind such fragile systems, why is population decrease a bad thing?
    If you and yours ever find yourself heading for the ovens cause you're not rich enough, Well you might not think it was such a good idea then.

    I think their playing with fire. Even if they pull it off, someone is likely to think there is still too many people. The killers could find their self in a real mess before it's over.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2021
    Posts
    649
    Reputation
    1263
    Type
    Neutral

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I think their playing with fire. Even if they pull it off, someone is likely to think there is still too many people. The killers could find their self in a real mess before it's over.
    Yes, and who decides the ones to go and the ones to stay? How will it be decided, race, age, sex, wealth, health? We know from history how it worked out in Europe in the 1930's - 40's...

    Do we leave those decisions up to someone like Klaus Schwab or Greta Thunberg? Or run it like a lotto and let a machine pick on who goes and who stays, but your number will come up unlike the lotto.... Will everyone be in? Not likely...

    Leave it up to a young woman and the bottom 80% SMV men will be the first to go.... In reality it could be run much like a livestock farm is run now. With livestock we harvest excess stock for profit, what value is there in a dead human? Just less carbon... With animals we target one sex or the other to limit populations, targeting males lowers the population but it will rebound fast as one male can impregnate many females. Target females and the population lowers and stays down longer.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    445
    Reputation
    1052
    Type
    mgtow

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Generally the genocide occurs when there’s too many of “x”. Not “there’s not enough “x”, let’s kill more.

  11. #11

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac View Post
    MGTOW is a side-effect of misandry and misandric laws. If MGTOW was part of the propaganda, then it would be accepted by the woke leftists instead of being slandered as "dangerous".
    MGTOW is an inconvenient and pRoBlEmAtIc side-effect for them because it halts the cash flow from men-->women-->corporations.
    Since men are not nearly as materialistic and consumerist as women, if men are not sponsoring a woman, they tend to be very conservative of their money in terms of savings, investment, retirement planning etc and that is just problematic for the corporate consumerism.
    Yes, they have to slam MGTOW. Of course, MGTOW has nothing at all to do with misogyny. We have every right to opt out of marriage and dating. It's our lives, after all, and no one can dispute that. Since they can't, they need some phony reason to bash us, and "misogyny" is en vogue. MGTOW is a threat to the sick society because ......

    1. We need less, and therefore consume less, making us a threat to corporate sales for almost everything from houses, to clothes, cars, etc.
    2. We're a threat to a stable population. Despite all the "don't need no man" rhetoric, they need us for reproduction and to provide.
    3. The more men go MGTOW, the more women have to work and thus earn the money to buy their own shit.
    4. We're the biggest threat to feminism, much bigger than the MRA movement. We refuse to cooperate and thus women can't manipulate is via the fear of not getting sex. MRAs try to change laws, and their efforts are usually futile. We just remove ourselves as providers, and the resulting void is much more powerful than an MRA complaining to his Senator.
    5. We remove women's one and only powerful bargaining chip: Their sex appeal. When that doesn't work for them, they panic.

  12. #12
    Member K-Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2022
    Location
    Eastern US
    Posts
    73
    Reputation
    151
    Type
    Neutral

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    MGTOW is an effect, not a cause. It is men's rational response to all the policies and societal changes that are the real causes of depopulation.

    Now a question to think about: why is depopulation (if it takes place naturally, as opposed to by force or from some calamity) a bad thing? It's obvious even for those of us who aren't environmental wackos that 8 billion people probably are too many, and many of those 8 billion are worthless or dangerous. Then consider the real problems of pollution, wildlife habitat destruction, and resource depletion. I wouldn't want to be alive in 2100 to see how things look then.

    Also, crying about pension systems failing because of a lack of younger workers to help support them makes no sense if there really are too many people in the world.

  13. #13

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    Other than shitty government programs, which shows how brain dead the people were behind such fragile systems, why is population decrease a bad thing?
    I wasn't passing judgement on whether it was good or bad. i was just explaining why a human population would collapse.

    The powers that be either need to change things up or accept population collapse

  14. #14

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    I hope the human race declines in population and I'm not sure if I care if we go extinct. It's amazing but just this simple attitude enabled me to jettison most of the baggage of modern life and its ridiculous expectations. Dinosaurs didn't last and we don't need to either. I am not overly concerned about the next generations. I didn't make any more because I don't believe in the direction humanity has chosen and I don't feel that me passing on my genes would change it.

  15. #15

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    I'm not following the agenda's connection with MGTOW. Are we speculating that MGTOW was somehow actively planted by the agents of that agenda? Or that the inroads that the agenda might have made contributed to the conditions that gave rise to MGTOW? Or is the connection something else?

    I remember a period of time in online MGTOW discussion when some traditionalists were saying that feminism was being stoked my communists who wanted to destabilize the West. That's what the agenda above sounds like, although it seems to be pointing the finger at domestic elites who want a more controllable populace.

    I'm not the kind of MGTOW who's upset because his "natural kinghood" is being usurped by feminism. I'm more of a libertarian than a conservative (probably somewhat like Tim Pool in my politics). I'm MGTOW because I choose to author my own life on my terms. That doesn't mean putting my spin on my supposed duty to womanhood, or on tradcon notions of how a man's life should be lived.

  16. #16
    Member K-Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2022
    Location
    Eastern US
    Posts
    73
    Reputation
    151
    Type
    Neutral

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katsu View Post
    I'm not following the agenda's connection with MGTOW. Are we speculating that MGTOW was somehow actively planted by the agents of that agenda? Or that the inroads that the agenda might have made contributed to the conditions that gave rise to MGTOW? Or is the connection something else?

    I remember a period of time in online MGTOW discussion when some traditionalists were saying that feminism was being stoked my communists who wanted to destabilize the West. That's what the agenda above sounds like, although it seems to be pointing the finger at domestic elites who want a more controllable populace.
    The "logic" about MGTOW and depopulation runs like this:

    The elites knowingly changed laws and customs to make relationships with women and having children perilous and expensive, so men would come to view women as toxic and then opt out of relationships and having children. That means fewer children, which serves the depopulation agenda.

    That's pretty tidy, but it's clear to me as stated in my previous post that MGTOW is an effect, not a cause.

  17. #17
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Bumfuck, Egypt
    Posts
    3,573
    Reputation
    11248
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-Dog View Post
    The "logic" about MGTOW and depopulation runs like this:

    The elites knowingly changed laws and customs to make relationships with women and having children perilous and expensive, so men would come to view women as toxic and then opt out of relationships and having children. That means fewer children, which serves the depopulation agenda.

    That's pretty tidy, but it's clear to me as stated in my previous post that MGTOW is an effect, not a cause.
    Trouble is that women didn't stop having kids, they just transferred ownership to the State. Welfare mom is now just another job. Not much of a depopulation plan there, though generally making things worse has to have some effect.
    Last edited by frog; November 22, 2022 at 8:35 PM.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    445
    Reputation
    1052
    Type
    mgtow

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Trouble is that women didn't stop having kids, they just transferred ownership to the State. Welfare mom is now just another job. Not much of a depopulation plan there, though generally making things worse has to have some effect.
    I like this and will steal it as I have no originality.

    “Welfare mom is now just another job”.

  19. #19
    Member K-Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2022
    Location
    Eastern US
    Posts
    73
    Reputation
    151
    Type
    Neutral

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    I like this and will steal it as I have no originality.

    “Welfare mom is now just another job”.
    Someone pointed out years ago on another forum that one day the government could simply say, "Sorry, ma'am, we have no further need for the position of 'single mother'."

  20. #20
    Member FireBird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    Classifed
    Posts
    127
    Reputation
    243
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Conspiracy…is MGTOW another pillar of depopulation?

    Oh how I wish MGTOW was a pillar to depopulation because right now society's doing a good job of doing that on their own with their fucked up laws towards Men and rampant degeneracy.


Similar Threads

  1. Conspiracy Theory Time #2
    By Jackoff in forum Random (Non-MGTOW subjects)
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: August 21, 2022, 7:21 PM
  2. Conspiracy Theory or Fact?
    By Jackoff in forum Philosophize
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: August 14, 2021, 8:32 AM
  3. Covid Conspiracy Time!
    By Jackoff in forum Random (Non-MGTOW subjects)
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: April 24, 2020, 5:03 PM
  4. Replies: 30
    Last Post: June 20, 2019, 5:31 PM
  5. Conspiracy Theory
    By Devil in forum Lounge
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: September 23, 2014, 9:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •