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    Compelled to marry.

    I just read this article:

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/entertai...h-1110785.html

    It’s a short article but one with a bit to comment on.

    Justin Bieber. I don’t want to rag on the guy, seems like he has enough problems without me adding to them, but his story seems so typical of blue-pill behaviour.

    Justin Bieber has said the first year of marriage to his wife Hailey was “tough” because there was “lack of trust”.

    “You don’t want to scare them off by saying, ‘I’m scared’.”
    So many men do this it’s staggering. They have reservations that they don’t articulate. They push it down under the pretext of jitters or fear of looking weak. I gotta man up and stop being a dweeb. What makes a guy think like this? The answer lies below:

    Bieber said he has always felt “compelled” to marry, adding: “I just felt like that was my calling. Just to get married and have babies, and do that whole thing.”
    He doesn’t realise that by using phrases like “compelled” and “I just felt” and “do that whole thing” he is admitting he was unsure, that he didn’t know, that he had been indoctrinated to believe that this is what being a man is all about and just went along.

    But I won’t castigate him too much because so many others have felt the same way and done the same thing.

    We have a thread going at the moment in the opposing views section called “sad”. This is the true definition of sad.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    I understand


    When I grew up, a guy needed the 'stability' of a family to move up in a company.

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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I understand


    When I grew up, a guy needed the 'stability' of a family to move up in a company.
    I've always wondered about this. The married man has other commitments that may take him away from his work occasionally, the single guy does not so why not favour the single guy.

    In recent years I have come to believe that maybe this is because the married guy has demonstrated his willingness to be controlled.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    I've always wondered about this. The married man has other commitments that may take him away from his work occasionally, the single guy does not so why not favour the single guy.

    In recent years I have come to believe that maybe this is because the married guy has demonstrated his willingness to be controlled.
    The employer knows the married guy needs all the money he can get. He'll gladly pull overtime and is more likely to accept poor treatment without complaining or quitting. A MGTOW who's played his cards right can walk away at any time, the power dynamic is very different.

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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Blue pill chivalry is why a family man got hired! His foreman was married, the owner was married, everyone was married! The single bachelor stood out of place and was considered scraps, a Peter Pan they were deep down jealous of, so they got the axe before they were ever hired!

    Now women do the hiring through an onslaught of legislation and the creation of HR, which excludes all men, especially white men, when it comes time to hire.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm Gone View Post
    The employer knows the married guy needs all the money he can get. He'll gladly pull overtime and is more likely to accept poor treatment without complaining or quitting. A MGTOW who's played his cards right can walk away at any time, the power dynamic is very different.
    Yep, I was an exempt employee (dont get paid extra for OT), given a promotion and pay raise after I was married. And another after having children. The big boss knows I cant quit, too many mouths to feed. Luckily I liked my job, even though I was working 70 hrs a week when I had the kids at home.

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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm Gone View Post
    The employer knows the married guy needs all the money he can get. He'll gladly pull overtime and is more likely to accept poor treatment without complaining or quitting. A MGTOW who's played his cards right can walk away at any time, the power dynamic is very different.
    There was some genuine angle to this though. From genuine I actually mean a non-immoral reason. But to understand that you must understand the social structure which has high income inequality and very low trust among people, and that is Indian society is. Here if we need to hire someone to work as, say a guard full-time, with provided space to live, it is preferred he has a family.

    The reason is, the trust for each other is too low in this society. Everyone thinks the other person is a thief and/or scammer. And often times they wont be wrong. Which is why, if the guy is married and tied down, he is disincentivized to steal and get into the trouble.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Which is why, if the guy is married and tied down, he is disincentivized to steal and get into the trouble.
    Interesting, and probably true for the most part, but there is also the view that he may be more incentivised to steal to provide for his family in the thought he'll never be caught.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Interesting, and probably true for the most part, but there is also the view that he may be more incentivised to steal to provide for his family in the thought he'll never be caught.
    For petty thievery, yes you might be right. But the real concern is some MAJOR robbery. Like planning with some of his friends to rob the entire house clean, when everyone is out to do their jobs. Because he is staying there all the time, he knows exactly the routine of everyone. If he has wife and kids, he will think twice about planning such a heist, and thrice before actually executing it.

    Again, some social context. In cities here, these kind of jobs, like being a guard etc are done by people who arrive to cities from either rural areas or neighboring countries like Nepal, Bangladesh etc which are very poor. They come here looking for jobs and fortune much like the same way people go to western nations. So the problems are similar. There is already low trust among people and its exacerbated when someone from another group is staying at close proximity. One can never know if he has a whole gang coming to city, and finding a temporary job for just a cover.

    Like I always say, the cities in India are dangerous. Yeah sure many people live here and be somewhat carefree, but you can never go TOTALLY carefree. Those who do that, are reminded every now and then, in some way or the other.
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    Re: Compelled to marry.

    Interesting, and probably true for the most part, but there is also the view that he may be more incentivised to steal to provide for his family in the thought he'll never be caught.


    Nah man. Can you imagine the trouble he'd be in with his wife? And what she'd do if he lost his job? There's nothing more terrifying to a married man than his wife in a rage cos he fucked up!

    Blue pill chivalry is why a family man got hired! His foreman was married, the owner was married, everyone was married! The single bachelor stood out of place and was considered scraps, a Peter Pan they were deep down jealous of, so they got the axe before they were ever hired!

    I've seen this a lot. Fucking simps thinking they are cool and you're immature. But yes deep down jealous of your bikes, money, freedom to bang whomever and having completely free weekends with no nagging cunt and KIDS!

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