Thread: Communicating with Blue Pilled Jerry

If the women around you realize their attempts to persuade you to join their gynocentric paradigm are futile they will begin to use the blue pilled men around you to deliver their message.


Example:
When I began working at the same company as Jerry he came across as a chill guy. He wanted to live vicariously to be reminded of the freedom he once had. Jerry lived as a free man for most of his life but eventually he surrendered to the plantation.


I shared about my adventures, avoiding the topic of women.


Recently, Jerry has shifted. Instead of encouraging my freedom he is now sharing the same fear based messages I have heard many times.


“You will die alone.”
“If you wait any longer, the only ones available will have baggage.”
“You will be that creepy old guy.”
“People will think you can not get a girlfriend.”


When the fear based messages do not work, coming next are messages of hope.


“You will feel better about yourself.”
“If you had a girlfriend you would make better decisions.”
“You will live longer and healthier.”
“She will make sure you eat healthy.”
“She will inspire you to work harder.”
“You will learn more about yourself.”
“Spending time with her is fun.”
“She will increase your sense of belonging.”
“She will be there when you need her most.”
“Your life will feel validated.”
“You get to be vulnerable with her.”
“She will mean more to you than your male friends.”
“You will get honest feedback.”
“You’ll gain a female perspective.”
“You’ll have a higher pain tolerance.”
“You will feel safer.”


A part of me wants to justify or reason with him. However, I must remember, “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”


I am not trying to save Jerry. I will not be justifying or reasoning with him. The best course of action is to agree and disengage.


Trying to reason with Jerry is suicide.


Jerry and I work together, communication is required. I want some one lined responses that will help with disengagement when he inevitably brings up the topic. Here is what I have come up with:


“You are right Jerry, I have not met the right one.”

Originally Posted by GrnB

If the women around you realize their attempts to persuade you to join their gynocentric paradigm are futile they will begin to use the blue pilled men around you to deliver their message.


Example:
When I began working at the same company as Jerry he came across as a chill guy. He wanted to live vicariously to be reminded of the freedom he once had. Jerry lived as a free man for most of his life but eventually he surrendered to the plantation.


I shared about my adventures, avoiding the topic of women.


Recently, Jerry has shifted. Instead of encouraging my freedom he is now sharing the same fear based messages I have heard many times.


“You will die alone.”
“If you wait any longer, the only ones available will have baggage.”
“You will be that creepy old guy.”
“People will think you can not get a girlfriend.”


When the fear based messages do not work, coming next are messages of hope.


“You will feel better about yourself.”
“If you had a girlfriend you would make better decisions.”
“You will live longer and healthier.”
“She will make sure you eat healthy.”
“She will inspire you to work harder.”
“You will learn more about yourself.”
“Spending time with her is fun.”
“She will increase your sense of belonging.”
“She will be there when you need her most.”
“Your life will feel validated.”
“You get to be vulnerable with her.”
“She will mean more to you than your male friends.”
“You will get honest feedback.”
“You’ll gain a female perspective.”
“You’ll have a higher pain tolerance.”
“You will feel safer.”


A part of me wants to justify or reason with him. However, I must remember, “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”


I am not trying to save Jerry. I will not be justifying or reasoning with him. The best course of action is to agree and disengage.


Trying to reason with Jerry is suicide.


Jerry and I work together, communication is required. I want some one lined responses that will help with disengagement when he inevitably brings up the topic. Here is what I have come up with:


“You are right Jerry, I have not met the right one.”

Tell Jerry that you'll:

a. Buy him pantyhose for his next birthday,

b. obtain him a lifetime prescription for estrogen and Midol,

c. unless he's suffering from hemorrhoids, that he can't substitute tampons for Preparation H,

d. inform him that the "right one" is in a whorehouse (right next to the bowl of condoms).

Originally Posted by GrnB

I will not be justifying or reasoning with him. The best course of action is to agree and disengage.

With those parameters, I can't think of a whole lot of variety of response that would not be thought-provoking.

How about:

"Time will tell."

"To each his own".

"Jerry" should be minding the store and minding his own business.

It's that time again! Time for your favorite asshole MGTOWFOREVER to end a career! RIP BLUE PILL JERRY!

“You will die alone.”

Everyone dies alone. We don't take anything or anybody with us. I've been alone from the womb to the tomb!

“If you wait any longer, the only ones available will have baggage.”

Every woman over 18 has baggage. They all have debts, past boyfriends, drama, etc.

“You will be that creepy old guy.”

Says who? You? I will also be the old guy who is 60 but doesn't look 120, doesn't have debt, a family that hates him, stress of paying for 2 or more households, etc.

“People will think you can not get a girlfriend.”

I don't care what anyone thinks. I don't put pussy on a pedestal and worship it like your retarded blue pill ass.

“You will feel better about yourself.”

I feel great now. I am sure I would feel even better with debt, a nagging bitch, drama, and baggage.

“If you had a girlfriend you would make better decisions.”

More pedestal shit. I am supposed to always think of her and do everything to please her. The fact is Men make retarded decisions when pussy is on the brain.

“You will live longer and healthier.”

You can predict the future? What numbers should I play for the lottery?

“She will make sure you eat healthy.”

I can take care of myself. She can't even take care of herself. She probably smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day, plus weed, stuffs her fat face with McDonalds, is on Anti depressants and washes it all down with some sugary wine coolers. Get F****d Jerry.

“She will inspire you to work harder.”

I am sure she will. Maintaining princess and her habits is expensive. But so is alimony and child support!

“You will learn more about yourself.”

Woman have taught me a lot. The feeling of being hatred, the feeling of not being loved unless they want something, the joys of losing everything, the greatness of being homeless, and to top it off the joys of being dragged through the legal system. All for CONDITIONAL LOVE! OH BOY OH BOY!

“Spending time with her is fun.”

I am sure it's fun for her since I'm the one paying for it.

“She will increase your sense of belonging.”

I swear to you that no woman ever made me feel wanted. I actually felt better off dead many many times.

“She will be there when you need her most.”

Remember how Eddie Murphy laughed at Reggie in Nutty Professor? That's me now. No woman was ever there for me when I truly needed them. Matter of fact they abandoned me. I got the excuses "Oh Im busy" and other shit. But yet when I was shelling out they were always around.

“Your life will feel validated.”

You rely on others to make you feel validated? If those same people thought you were a scumbag tomorrow, would you still put them on a pedestal? A day makes a world of difference.

“You get to be vulnerable with her.”

Are you kidding? She will see you as a weak pussy pushover. That's what nice guys(good hearted men) don't understand. I was a nice guy once and got stream rolled. Once I became a total asshole that didn't take no shit then my life went straight to heaven.

“She will mean more to you than your male friends.”

Ever notice men leave their friends to get with the girl but the girl listens to her friends to leave the guy? Yuppers.

“You will get honest feedback.”

You mean constant insults about how you are such a scumbag cause you don't cater to her every whimper?

“You’ll gain a female perspective.”

Don't need it. Don't want it. I am a man. I will never be white knighted, praised for merely existing, get 2nd chances when I fail, etc. Thats what Butt pussies like Jerry & Women don;t understand. They can scream equality all they want but it will never happen. Women want SPECIAL RIGHTS. They really dont want to be judged and treated like a man.

“You’ll have a higher pain tolerance.”

Jerry is now speaking out his ass. There is no medical data to back this up.

“You will feel safer.”

Jerry must be high as a kite. How is a woman going to make a man feel safer? She sure won't get into physical fights for me, pay my bills, or fix mistakes. I think Jerry is "getting a female perspective" by getting in touch with his feminine side.

I am not trying to save Jerry. I will not be justifying or reasoning with him. The best course of action is to agree and disengage.


Trying to reason with Jerry is suicide.


Jerry and I work together, communication is required. I want some one lined responses that will help with disengagement when he inevitably brings up the topic. Here is what I have come up with:


“You are right Jerry, I have not met the right one.”

Tell Jerry to fuck off politely. Simply say "My personal life is none of anyone's business". If he keeps pushing the issue then it's time to up the game. Tell him you will speak to the boss about this harassment since you have told him to stop but he hasen't.

Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER

It's that time again! Time for your favorite asshole MGTOWFOREVER to end a career! RIP BLUE PILL JERRY!



Everyone dies alone. We don't take anything or anybody with us. I've been alone from the womb to the tomb!



Every woman over 18 has baggage. They all have debts, past boyfriends, drama, etc.



Says who? You? I will also be the old guy who is 60 but doesn't look 120, doesn't have debt, a family that hates him, stress of paying for 2 or more households, etc.



I don't care what anyone thinks. I don't put pussy on a pedestal and worship it like your retarded blue pill ass.



I feel great now. I am sure I would feel even better with debt, a nagging bitch, drama, and baggage.



More pedestal shit. I am supposed to always think of her and do everything to please her. The fact is Men make retarded decisions when pussy is on the brain.


You can predict the future? What numbers should I play for the lottery?



I can take care of myself. She can't even take care of herself. She probably smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day, plus weed, stuffs her fat face with McDonalds, is on Anti depressants and washes it all down with some sugary wine coolers. Get F****d Jerry.



I am sure she will. Maintaining princess and her habits is expensive. But so is alimony and child support!



Woman have taught me a lot. The feeling of being hatred, the feeling of not being loved unless they want something, the joys of losing everything, the greatness of being homeless, and to top it off the joys of being dragged through the legal system. All for CONDITIONAL LOVE! OH BOY OH BOY!



I am sure it's fun for her since I'm the one paying for it.



I swear to you that no woman ever made me feel wanted. I actually felt better off dead many many times.



Remember how Eddie Murphy laughed at Reggie in Nutty Professor? That's me now. No woman was ever there for me when I truly needed them. Matter of fact they abandoned me. I got the excuses "Oh Im busy" and other shit. But yet when I was shelling out they were always around.



You rely on others to make you feel validated? If those same people thought you were a scumbag tomorrow, would you still put them on a pedestal? A day makes a world of difference.



Are you kidding? She will see you as a weak pussy pushover. That's what nice guys(good hearted men) don't understand. I was a nice guy once and got stream rolled. Once I became a total asshole that didn't take no shit then my life went straight to heaven.



Ever notice men leave their friends to get with the girl but the girl listens to her friends to leave the guy? Yuppers.



You mean constant insults about how you are such a scumbag cause you don't cater to her every whimper?



Don't need it. Don't want it. I am a man. I will never be white knighted, praised for merely existing, get 2nd chances when I fail, etc. Thats what Butt pussies like Jerry & Women don;t understand. They can scream equality all they want but it will never happen. Women want SPECIAL RIGHTS. They really dont want to be judged and treated like a man.



Jerry is now speaking out his ass. There is no medical data to back this up.



Jerry must be high as a kite. How is a woman going to make a man feel safer? She sure won't get into physical fights for me, pay my bills, or fix mistakes. I think Jerry is "getting a female perspective" by getting in touch with his feminine side.



Tell Jerry to fuck off politely. Simply say "My personal life is none of anyone's business". If he keeps pushing the issue then it's time to up the game. Tell him you will speak to the boss about this harassment since you have told him to stop but he hasen't.

Point, set, and MATCH! GAME OVER!

NEXT!

The agree and dissengage won't work. He will think that he is right and he will keep saying the same phrases. He will also think that he is helping you and that you are learning from his advice.

Deal with this by making him think. Say this "Maybe I'm not in the right place to get into a relationship right now and want to focus on my health and career."

If he responds with some of the shit he is saying reply with "Forcing myself into a relationship just to be in one even if I don't want to sounds desperate and needy. Don't you think?"

Have a discussion with him and show him that his way of thinking is full on dessperation for a woman.

Next time he thinks about telling you how you should get a gf he will remember how needy and desperate he sounds and stop bothering you.

Originally Posted by GrnB

I want some one lined responses that will help with disengagement when he inevitably brings up the topic.”

"I will take that on board"

"You make some interesting points."

"You've found one in a million, otherwise you wouldn't be saying all that."

I wanted to ask about the conversational context in which Jerry is giving you the 'messages of hope.' Statements like "If you had a girlfriend, you would make better decisions," aren't just delivered apropos of nothing, in a workplace setting.

Something in the way that the conversation was proceding beforehand naturally gave Jerry the context and a sense of permission to deliver that little baked nugget of advice with a guilt trip filling.

So its not about put downs or responses to his actual statements. Its about shutting down the conversational environment that allows him to make the statement in the first place. If you are only talking to him about workplace logistics, or at best a show or game you watched the other night, it would be quite out of context bordering on inappropriate for him to make comments about you getting shackled in a ltr.

If he did bring it up out of nowhere, you could then neatly shut it down without engagement by saying:

"what's that got to do with anything?"

Maybe its time for the sharing stories and allowing Jerry to live vicariously through your exploits to stop? He's clearly taking liberties with the licence that you give him.

“You will die alone.”
“If you wait any longer, the only ones available will have baggage.”
“You will be that creepy old guy.”
“People will think you can not get a girlfriend.”

Jerry is projecting. These are his fears, not yours. In fact, Jerry has "false conciousness": dying alone is a woman's fear. And "creepy old guy" is a woman's judgment.

One option is to proceed exactly as if he had said "I'm afraid that I will be that creepy old guy."

“She will mean more to you than your male friends.”
Ever notice men leave their friends to get with the girl but the girl listens to her friends to leave the guy? Yuppers.

Never really thought about the reality of this one, but damn…. Pure truth…..

Someone probably already said this, but living as a free man serves as a constant reminder to men who decided not to, that the paths they took were wrong, and that the lives they're being forced to live now could've been a hell of a lot better.

Originally Posted by GrnB

Trying to reason with Jerry is suicide.

This. There's no point in trying to make him see the light. So, if you MUST have conversations with your co-worker about marriage, you could just give easy, inoffensive, noncommittal answers. "You might be right", "That's a good point", "I'll think about that", etc.

The problem with Blue Pills has always been that they're a persistent bunch. So, it might be worth it to spin some bs story about why you don't want to get married (like, make up a story about some previous girlfriend dying and you just can't get over the heartbreak of losing her). Or take sterner measures and tell him to stop talking about this with you (and report him to HR if he doesn't).

Commenters:

Lawyer and marriage, lawyer and marriage,
Go together like a horse and carriage.
This I tell ya, brother, you can't have one without the other.
Lawyer and marriage, lawyer and marriage,
It's an institute you can't disparage ...

Ha! I don't understand why any young man would sign up for this marriage crap anymore. It's all risk, no reward. You're signing your life away to the state and guaranteeing more than half your assets to an unstable feminist piece of work. Good luck with that!

Most younger married men would rather rent. If you buy in that situation you do not own the house, your wife owns the house. Then one day she calls the cops and says you beat her up, you go to jail for awhile, then pay for decades on a house you cannot even live in. You were divorce raped . . .

You could say:

"My heart and mind is not into being in a romantic relationship so it's not fair to the woman and I would just waste her time"

If he brings it up again...
"Yeah, sorry, I'm a private person and it's just not something I want to discuss at work, okay?"
If he brings it up again...
"It's just not something I want to discuss, can you respect that?"
If he brings it up again...
"Uh, why do you keep bringing these topics up with me man? Your obsession with me and my situation is pretty creepy..."
If he brings it up again...
"This issue is closed. Go over there."

Simply say "My personal life is none of anyone's business".

This is the best (read: only) response.

This "blue-pilled" fool will continue to annoy you to death until you complain to HR about this harassment.

Originally Posted by kru-kut

Someone probably already said this, but living as a free man serves as a constant reminder to men who decided not to, that the paths they took were wrong, and that the lives they're being forced to live now could've been a hell of a lot better.

Exactly this. There's definitely older married men (maybe 40's/50's onwards) that have been 100% understanding of why I don't want to get married (and even actively telling me not to), but the dangerous ones are those in their 20's/30's that have just gotten married/planning to and have that sense of impending doom of what they're about to get into, trying to force their single friends to commit to the same, suicidal act.

Misery loves company. And married life is a lonely place.