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    Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    Thought this would be interesting to share, since some MGTOW are curios about how women are treated in Islam.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzoiyZSYxM
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    Re: Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    An incredibly interesting video from Colttaine containing a lot of insights of which I was previously unaware, thank you.

    Quite long at 40 minutes but worth every second. In fact I downloaded it so I could watch it again (and again).

    Note: You have to sign in to google/you tube to watch this (by request of the uploader apparently).

    Women are women the world over yes, but the legal entitlements expressed here with regards earnings / dowries etc. are eye opening. No wonder they are so willing to cover their faces (Niqab/Burka). I wouldn’t want to show my face either if this was what I was up to.

    Now I’m not so sure if feminism is spreading to Muslim countries from the west, I think maybe they are learning from each other with western women having more to aspire to.

    Each has entitlements the other craves, and craving, greed and entitlement are at the heart of every woman that ever lived.

    Gimme, gimme, gimme.

    Here, I’ll throw you a crumb so you keep giving me more and more and more.

    Never again will I entertain the notion that Muslim women are victimised in any way.
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    Re: Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    I respect the heck out of Coltaine, but I got into it with him on this one. He is basically saying that since Muslim societies "protect" women by restricting them, that this is just another form of gynocracy. And in a sense, he's right.

    But he then states that Muslim socities are no different than Western society. In this, he makes a grave error.

    Yes, Muslim socities are gynocentric in some respects. (And forbidding women from driving is also agreeing to be their chauffeurs.)

    But then, all societies are gynocentric, in some respects. Women have the children after all.

    And, we all know that there are real penalties for adultery in Muslim societies. Is the same true in the West? The question is rhetorical.

    For all his keen intellect, Coltaine was wildly off on this one.

    My back and forth with him was in the comments, should still be, unless he has deleted the comments.

    All that said, I really do like Coltaine. He was just wildly off on this one.

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    Re: Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    Very intresting vid .

    I notice in some laws in my country they have cultral differences in brackets so as a judge has to take those cultral differences into consideration . But how the law works words can be twisted . Maybe say in a family court they could twist that cultral difference in favour to protect the woman from violence .

    Been talking an old ex muslim who went threw a divorce and he sounds like he has gone mgtow .

    Feminisim is fucking men the world over .

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    Re: Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    But then, all societies are gynocentric, in some respects. Women have the children after all.


    What do you mean by this? I have heard this argument before from others in the manosphere. "Women have the children, therefore a certain level of gynocentrism is justified."

    Women want to be treated the same as men. This has been the rallying cry of the 20th century. And if this is what they seek, then it is only fair to get rid of Gynocentrism completely.

    If a woman works in a warehouse and she cannot lift a heavy box, no man should help her; if a man does, then that is instantly and automatically unfair. And I would consider such a man to be a gynocracist. He is actively participating in the gynocentric world.

    Said man would then have to ask for a higher wage for all the boxes he has to lift to help women out - fairness has be measured numerically. Otherwise, it is not fairness.

    And, we all know that there are real penalties for adultery in Muslim societies. Is the same true in the West? The question is rhetorical.
    So what are the penalties? In Saudi, my country, there is the death penalty, but you would need four eyewitness to the actual act of penetration.

    How is that viable? The condition are set up in a way that women get away with it. And, even in Saudi, they often do. What usually happens is that they may get fined, or in more extreme cases a few days in jail.


    In a country like Lebanon, there is no death penalty for adultery. So the muslim countries that do practice it, are few and far between and do so sparingly.

    The "difference" between muslim countries and western countries, is that women are just more free to speak about who they slept with and brag about it.


    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: Colttaine's video about Islam and women

    I'm not arguing in favor of gynocentrism. I'm saying that since it is a fact that women have the children, that all societies, to some extent, will favor women. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm saying it is what it is. Sort of like gravity.

    In fact, it's realizing that, and the fact that society needs men to be disposable, that leads us to be MGTOW.

    As far as all the rest, I don't pretend to be an expert on Muslim societies, which probably vary widely in their laws and customs, within the framework of Islam.

    My main point is that just because Islam --is also-- gynocentric in some respects, in no way means that it is just as gynocentric as the west. Which seems to be what Coltaine was arguing.


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