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    Clementine Ford (sigh)

    Boys Will Be Boys: Clementine Ford on how men are harmed by toxic masculinity - Hack - triple j

    Men, it seems, are harmed by toxic masculinity.

    "The whole trope of men not being able to share their emotions and not being able to express sensitivity is not just a stereotype, it's something that leads to the high levels of mental health issues we have in men, the high level of male suicide."
    Oh, if only men were more like women! But wait - isn't it the case that women, generally, are more unhappy than men? More neurotic? Attempt suicide at a far greater rate than men? That the only reason there's more male suicide is that we are better at it?

    What evidence does Ms Ford have to advance the notion that it is "not being able to share their emotions", in particular, that's leading to the mental health issues?

    None, of course. Just dogma.

    As an Australian, I apologise to the rest of the world for this pestilent woman.

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    Women can have opinions about the opposite sex but they go too far when they presume to decide what is best for men. As we know, women are quick to object if they think men are deciding what is best for women. We need to remind them of their imbalance here, as they are slow to think of this for themselves. If not slow, then it is their excitement to self-indulgently slam maleness that eclipses their intellect on this point.

    Women don't know when they don't know what they are talking about. They do not factor in the majority of moments when they are not present when men are together. Too many women make the chronic mistake of deciding that their POV is a universal norm and therefore a man's POV is just an aberration from that norm. Do you see the conceit in this?

    Today at a group lunch, a woman declared that the young men of today are undecided on how to act and that watching the MeToo stuff is showing them how to behave. Usually, I remain silent and let women have their fantasies but today I spoke up and told her that the majority of guys are not walking around undecided like she thinks but will continue to act pragmatically, based on the situation. Two other guys at the lunch table nodded in agreement and she saw this. She actually thinks young guys walk around lacking agency to think for themselves. Hoo boy. She presumes to know how men think. She must hang around women too much, deciding that a woman's lack of mooring must be the norm. Mostly, I think that she, as a woman, enjoys verbalizing what she hopes for the world as if it has any real connection to the people in it. I hear this a lot from women. She failed to preface her thoughts as hopes. That would have been better, more reasonable, had she done that. Instead, she allowed others (us men, for example) to see her disconnection from the reality of men. Will she realize that three men would have disagreed with her in silence had I not spoken up? I doubt it, as I don't think her mind is that elastic.

    If women take action on trying to fix men, then they haven't learned anything. It's a useful truth that if you want to change someone else, you change yourself first. Secondly, I can't change my opinion of you; only you can change it. You can't change your opinion of me; only I can change it.

    It is always useless when a woman uses the word "sad" as if it has a point to it. Ford says:

    "One of the things I thought was very sad about it was..."
    It's as if they think "sad" is an action verb. Women use it a lot. Watch for it. It's their substitute for not knowing how to complete their thoughts to make a point. Who cares if she is sad over anything? Are we supposed to come to her aid and rescue her from her sadness? Are we to commiserate with her? Hell no to both questions. Her sadness is no one's problem but her own. A women who tacks on her emotions to issues of the day only allows me to ignore what she is saying because she is being ineffective. Once she does that, she has immediately turned the focus to herself for others to see. Always about her. I would never wallow in the self-indulgence it takes to assess large issues with my sadness. However, if I were conceited, it would make sense for me to do this.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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    Re: Clementine Ford (sigh)

    Toxic Masculinity = Feminism

    Feminism = masculinized females not understanding what it is to be feminine

    Feminism = feminized males who have been taught to be ashamed for being male

    Feminism = Sexism against men and women

    Feminism = a sexist, misogynistic, misandrist, hate group which harms men and women.

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    Re: Clementine Ford (sigh)

    That website is just another cunt sanctuary; no comment section.
    My Senior Member is semi retired.

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    Re: Clementine Ford (sigh)

    ""Men, it seems, are harmed by toxic masculinity.""
    I love and embrace my toxic masculinity.
    It is my best quality.

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    I can tell you right now this fugy sack of shit only knows about men is at a distance at best. The worst part is she found some poor Desperate Dan to slip it in and give her a load, she has a son and that poor kid is going to grow up totally messed up.

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    She looks like she just killed something.


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