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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out


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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I see your point, Flailer and indeed this is a very careless and cruel generalization.
    But how do you start with the truth? If the assumption is correct that single parenthood is a cause for economic and social decline - not my idea obviously - then I´m just wondering how we behave now that we know.

    What I mean to say is that most issues don´t have a monocausal origin but even regarding something as complex a single motherhood, at the end of the day it took two people to get there or am I wrong?
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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Blade View Post
    it's just like the old days...


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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Lol .


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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    For every single mother, there is a man somewhere who didn´t want to be a father but couldn´t be bothered to prevent it.
    Well, aside from the spermjackers, the sperm banks, the "oops" pregnancies, and the "single mothers" who threw fathers out of their children's lives. Women get baby rabies, and decide to have a baby by any means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    What I mean to say is that most issues don´t have a monocausal origin but even regarding something as complex a single motherhood, at the end of the day it took two people to get there or am I wrong?
    At the end of the day it took an entire society to get there. Bring back the orphanages and the laundries for fallen women, and you'll see fewer single mothers. Presumptively grant custody to fathers rather than mothers and you'll see none, and the kids will be better raised.

    But as for MGTOW in particular: MGTOW isn't a political program. You are thinking of Men's Rights Activism, there. MGTOW is simply a practical response to the inclement. It's a bomb shelter, not a way to end the war.

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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    This was posted in 2014 but I'll add to the part which I have made bold:

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Good posts all. We have a good feeling about this; and know that most people want the light feeling of Eternal Bachelorhood versus the 'oppressed martyrs in the slide towards oblivion'. We also recognize that everyone's experiences differ, it takes time to heal. Where are we are matters less than where we're all committed to heading- and that is to acceptance and embracing our lifestyle - no matter how long it takes. To Ik's question:

    >Will the mods still send out a PM or something else as a warning before posts are deleted and members are banned?
    If a post is deleted or a member is banned; will there be an explanation to the member whose post was deleted?

    No warnings before post deletion. A PM warning may or may not be sent, depending on the nature of what's posted. As for explanation of banning, not for temp-bans (7 day bans). We do want to post an explanation for a perma-ban. We aim to create a sub-forum for that.
    I've found that, when a member is temp-banned and no explanation Notice from a Mod is provided to other members, all that the other members suddenly see is a strike-through in the username and, until a perma-ban Notice is provided, if one does get provided, can't know if it's a temp-ban or a perma-ban and so if it's for a member with whom they are familiar or whom they like, they may post with questions as to what is going on, with a possible hit to morale or cohesion. Both types of bans look the same to them and in our Mod silence they understandably become concerned. Once they post these concerns, the choice upon me is to say nothing or to explain. So, in addition to posting the perma-bans in the Banned Members sub-forum, I've also taken to timely posting Notice of the temp-bans there, in order to prevent unnecessary concern as well as to educate. I calculate that any dissatisfaction resulting from our stated reasons for the temp-ban would be less of a consequence than silently letting any members create their own dissatisfaction out of having no facts, especially across repeated instances of unexplained strike-throughs. When the temp-ban is over, I remove the Notice from that sub-forum, making it visible only to Moderators moving forward, because I figure who needs to have their forgiven traffic violations forever broadcasted for all to see.

    With that said, I have opted to permanently leave inside the member's offending post and in red font any remarks of mine made as Mod, should I make them, in order to mark the spot where the offense occurred. Otherwise, as time goes by, other members, including new members, might encounter that offensive post, see no visible Mod action attached to it, may not have scrolled down to see any Mod posts made later in the thread, not connect the dots, and could dangerously assume what he saw in the offending post is acceptable to imitate. I believe this has happened before.
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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Good post. Most men I meet on the street are blue pilled. The red pill men I only meet here. I too was married for 30 years. 3 to wife number 1, 13 to wife number 2, and 13 to wife/girlfriend number 3. OK. So that's only 29 years. Close enough. Repeating the same mistakes over and over, you say? Yep! I was young and dummer than I am now.
    Because blue pilled men rarely go out to have fun, I'm constantly in the company of women when I go out. I have a harem at several Waffle Houses in the area. They all swear they're going to take off with me. But we're just cuttin up. I don't get into serious philosophical discussions with anyone but you guys. I listen to women's stories from the mouths of the babes themselves. They all believe they have the power to change and improve themselves just as we all do. I'm not buying it. People don't get better with age. They just get more adept at being themselves. If they start out as a schmuck, they end up as a master schmuck. Likewise with what we call "the nice ones". Everyone's definition of nice is different, however. I've long since stopped trying to convince anyone of anything. You can take my lived experiences at face value or not. It makes no difference to me. Others can't fathom that. Let me illustrate.
    When I was working my way through college there was a friend of mine who's TV set was broken. He asked me to fix it for him. Now, why a Navy ET couldn't troubleshoot a power supply problem himself is another question. But, I agreed to meet him in his shop and troubleshoot it there. His buddy had never heard of a hot chassis before and didn't believe in them. He smoked his friend's TV in an effort to prove me wrong. My point being that if you want to ignore what others are trying to teach you here, it's your ass, not mine. Don't get angry at us if we laugh at you. That's not hate, that's amusement. The hatred is on the part of those who would deny your knowledge because it's not their knowledge. It's like they're saying, "How dare you know more than me!"
    That's why I choose to just walk away. Did that make sense, or did i ramble?

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    Re: The Caves Of Gloom ... and Finding Your Way Out

    Wow, the OP is a timeless classic. If there was a MGTOW anthology, it should be one of the pages at the start of the book.


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